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Bridge Basics : Does responder rebid of a suit promise 6?
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Recommend (3 recommendations so far) Message 1 of 17 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameWildflower174  (Original Message)Sent: 7/11/2003 12:58 AM
I was East on this hand and my pard opened in 4th seat. After the hand finished he told me that he thought I had 6 spades.  Does rebidding a suit as responder indicate 6?
 What would your second bid with my hand be?
 

West       North        East        South



Dealer North, both non vul

S 
H 
D 
C 

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Full Hand

Contract : 2S
Dealer   : N
Vul      : None





S 10xxx
H k10x
D kqxx
C jx
S q 
H aqjxx
D j10xx
C kxx
     S ajxxx
H xx
D a87
C q10x
  S kxx
H xxx
D xx
C axxxx

West
  
 1h
 2d
North
 p       
 p
 p
East
p
p
South
 p
1s
2s
  p       p       p



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Recommend  Message 3 of 17 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameWildflower174Sent: 7/11/2003 3:15 AM
This was a first time partnership.  2NT was my second choice and I think it is a better one, too.  But, I have never played the responder had to have six to rebid a suit.  Maybe it is just this situation?  Since I am refusing support for the hearts by my bid and I have 2 so my bid should be a six card suit...meaning, I can play in this suit if you have 2?
 

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Recommend  Message 4 of 17 in Discussion 
From: cadetSent: 7/11/2003 3:21 AM
according to hardy/lawrence,rebidding your major shows a GOOD 5 or 6,good 5 if you have no other bid.......

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Recommend  Message 5 of 17 in Discussion 
From: MorgannnSent: 7/11/2003 6:45 AM
Well, wildflower, seeing you are a passed ahnd asnd your P has a very weak opening, I think s/her should have bid 1nt over your 1spade response  If I must answer , I would pass 2D   But then  what do I know?

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Recommend  Message 6 of 17 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknamegordiwithanrSent: 7/11/2003 1:32 PM
My rebid would be 2 h as a preference, and then 3s if the next bid was 2nt. I wonder if the 11 count would justify a 2s bid.

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Recommend  Message 7 of 17 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameRusty0404Sent: 7/11/2003 2:34 PM
Wild I would tend to play you for 6 altho you might rebid a 5cd suit with a hand like AQJxx, xx, Axx, xxx.  On this hand with the stop in clubs and a max passed hand I would rebid 2N.

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Recommend  Message 8 of 17 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknamePriorKnowledgeSent: 7/11/2003 8:57 PM
2S shows <10 with 6 spades. Since you have neither, it looks like a poor choice.
 
2N is the proper rebid. That shows 11-12 HCP, invitational. Especially with Q10x of clubs that you want lead into rather than through.
 
Opener should have a full opener after the 2D rebid. 1N rebid by opener is also possible.
 
After 1H - 1S - 2D - ?
Pass, 2H, 2S = weak signoff
2N, 3D, 3H, 3S = invitational
 
2S and 3S show 6s

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Recommend  Message 9 of 17 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameWildflower174Sent: 7/12/2003 12:39 AM
 Thanks all.  If I understand correctly, my pard stretched a little and I lied about my suit quality and quantity.  Better bidding would have been 1H-1S-1NT-2NT   pass out (2NT because I doubt if opps would let us buy it for 1NT and I don't want them bidding a cheap lead directing suit and I do have 11 hcp.)

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Recommend  Message 10 of 17 in Discussion 
From: MorgannnSent: 7/12/2003 4:56 AM
PK    , When do yuou show 5M(H/S) Lets assume you dont play NMF
I have bveen "reprimanded" gently
"You really should rebid your 5spades"
"Your 2spades rebid told me 6 spades  p  np however"
It all depends who your p is I guess..Is there a cut and dry r8ule as yu posted here?
 
"2S shows <10 with 6 spades. ."
 
"2N is the proper rebid. That shows 11-12 HCP, invitational. "

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Recommend (1 recommendation so far) Message 11 of 17 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknamePriorKnowledgeSent: 7/13/2003 12:44 AM
NMF is only used after opener rebids 1N (or 2N if not playing anything else).
 
Sometimes with weak or invitational hands, you can't show 5.
 
For example:
1H  1S
2D   ?
Opener is giving you a choice of two suits. Opener may be 5-5 or even 6-5. Usually, with a weak hand you choose one of opener's 2 suits by either passing or "taking a preference" to 2H (which is the same as passing). To refuse both opener suits requires a 6 card suit (or a really good 5 carder) because opener is unlikely to have many spades.
 
With an invitational hand, you are also limited when holding 5 spades in this auction. After the above auction, how could you show 5 spades rather than 6, an invitational hand, and still stay below game???? Not enough bids. So in this auction, the catch-all 2N is used. If opener is minimum, opener passes. If opener is maximum, opener can bid 3C (0544), 3D (55 or better), 3H (64), 3S (3541), or 3N. Recall that opener's 2D is still almost unlimited, so any bid over responder's 2N rebid is a GF.

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Recommend  Message 12 of 17 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameCosine�?/nobr>Sent: 7/26/2003 1:53 PM
I read in Alan Truscotts' Basic Bridge in 3 wks that you must have 6 to rebid a suit.  Not sure if that has changed, but I believe there will definitely be exceptions.

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Recommend  Message 13 of 17 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameUvyener1Sent: 9/24/2003 3:24 PM
Hi Guys
I agree with all the ppl here that saying that 2NT is the best bid.
But i disagree with those who says that partner has to bid 1NT instead of 2D
i mean, partner can very well bring him 4 low spades and 5 good diamonds with 9 HCP and a contract in NT will be very poor.
Usually i won't bid NT if i have a single or a void in my partner's suit.
1NT i'd probabely bid in a pair event and 2D in teams' event.

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Recommend  Message 14 of 17 in Discussion 
From: CrazyCaperSent: 9/29/2004 10:25 PM
Partner has opened a 5 Card Minor and shown a 4 Card Minor.  Although I do not fault your rebid of a 5 Card Major as Responder, the odds are you cannot expect much in the way of Spades from partner.  At this point, partner does not know if you have more than a scraggly 6 points.  2NT corrects this so that you both know game is possible while potentially limiting your hand to no more than 2 Hearts and 3 Diamonds with a Club suit you don't want to (or can't) bid.  I feel this is much more descriptive of your hand as you really don't want to go to 4 Spades with partner holding as few as two trumps.  3NT is the contract you want to aim at and aggressive players who won't want to risk (a new) partner passing will be bidding it now .... which makes 2NT your minimum bid at this point.
 

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Recommend  Message 15 of 17 in Discussion 
From: laura922Sent: 1/22/2005 5:49 PM
a ;itt;e ;ate but my bid wld be 2 hrt.

I find the hand not strong enough for 2NT ))))

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Recommend  Message 16 of 17 in Discussion 
From: laura922Sent: 1/22/2005 5:51 PM
when P try to invite I will bid 3NT then P must have
good opening +

when misfit keep bidding as low as possible

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Recommend  Message 17 of 17 in Discussion 
From: whoSent: 2/9/2005 4:43 PM
i would have expected your first bid to mean a minimum of 4 spades, the rebid to mean 5.

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