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| | From:  Grace· (Original Message) | Sent: 1/3/2006 8:29 AM |
And then this got posted.... | Ooops.... I spelled you name wrong up there.... it's Cliar.... not Clair... sorry about that. | Reply
| | | Oh you are so clever Grace. If only every one else could see you for who you really are. Nice try at being nice in all your rudeness though. I have to give you credit for that! I wonder how many of your ex-groups thought the same thing about you. Funny how you just keep going from group to group, bragging about how active your group is, how many members you have, how you barely have time to keep up with everything that goes on in your group, yet you have time to post "books" in other groups complaing about everything that goes on with msn groups. You clearly dont want to follow the rules of any group. You complain about everything you see in all the other groups you join. And you always have such a cheerful way of doing it. Well let me tell you a secret....People can see right through you dear. Not all groups like a member who has something smart to say or who questions everything that goes on in their groups. Not everyone likes a member who comes in and stays for a while, then trys to get all the members to join their group. Not everyone likes a member who acts like they know nothing about how to run a group, just so they can get ideas from others. You always say you just want to get the "scoop" of how groups are ran, but everytime someone gives you their opinion, you always have to disagree with it. Maybe thats how things go here in this little corner of Sunshine and Rainbows, but that is not how it goes in all groups. I am sure after reading this, you will head straight to the other group and ask everyones opinion about it...and thats fine with me. I just hope you let them all in on what you have been doing and what made me decide to post this here. After all, just giving them part of the story wouldnt be fair would it? But of course all the other group ever gets is your side. You never want to admit to what you do and that the reason you are asking is because you are doing it. You always make it sound like you are just "wondering". But everyone knows! To all the members here.....The group advertised above is not even an open group so just overlook it. Hope you all enjoy reading all of Grace's long chapters she so commonly post. Hope you can get to the end of at least 2 of them a day before your eyes go crossed and your mind starts to wonder! | | |
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| | | From: Grace· | Sent: 1/3/2006 8:29 AM |
And then I replied with this... Hi Clair... good to see you! Wow... thanks for letting us know about a great debate group. If there are any debaters here they are welcome to check it out. I took debate in high school and was lousy at it... . Have you been a member there long? Tell us more about it. I saw you on the Managers Helping Managers board too.... what groups do you manage? Someone from here may be interested in your other groups too... let us know! I wish the debate group wasn't locked.... I bet there are some interesting conversations on there to read. There are a lot of issues in the world to debate... that's for sure! Any other debaters on here? Toosh, Sylvia, .. yoohoooo... Clair has an announcement about a great group to check out. This girl has to go to bed.... Hugs to all, Grace | |
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| | | From: Grace· | Sent: 1/3/2006 9:26 AM |
Oh my girls... what a long night this has been..... I've been working on a discussion thread today and tonight on a managers group board, trying to make the point that members should not be contolled or limited by group managers in reference to exchanging e-mail addresses with each other. The discussion also revolves around members of a group board... seeking someone elses e-mail so that they can write them and invite them to visit or join a group board. Some managers call that stealing members. And that is not what I wanted the discussion to center around.. but it keeps getting put in there anyway... because it happens. My side of the discussion... for members, and against contolling managers ... is not being recieved very well...lol. And.... also, sad to say.... I had to ban a member from here... NanaBearx2. I won't go into details... but suffice it to say.... she really has it in for me, and does not like me at all... not one little bit. She posted some stuff on here to me.. not very nice... and that discussion also got carried over to the same manager's help board.... where she is also a member. I found out you can't copy/paste a members message to show on other group boards. So I had to delete her message off of there. I still have it saved for my records on my personal private board. I had it on here... was gonna keep it on here for you all to read... but said, no... not gonna leave that dirty stuff on here... and I deleted it all off. I know it hurts you all to know I really am IMPERFECT..lol.. .and that I'm as human as everybody else... and that I do actually make mistakes and do things wrong, and even occassionally break group board rules. ..accidentally. But you know how some managers are about those rules.... and I do respect them. Sadly, I just don't pay close enough attention to what I write in a message sometimes and I get myself in trouble. That's why I refuse to be that kind of controlling manager here. I know from personal experience... it's easy to accidentally do something wrong on a group board. And most of what happens, like posting on the wrong board, is just not that important anyway. So.. anyway....just wanted to let you know that I made someone mad at me.. and they were so mad they came here as a false person and attacked me verbally. Why she felt the need to become a member, I don't know... the group is open... she could come by and read all she wanted to check up on what we do and say here... which is just have fun together. Anyway... it's over... she's banned... and she revealed herself and her anger... which can never be taken back. I know about that... I've done it too...long time ago ... and it stays with you that you hurt someone like that. I feel sorry for her... and wish her well. Past my bedtime.... I'll check in on you all tomorrow. My chiro appt. is not till the afternoon, so I'll be home all morning. Thank you for being here... and I'm sorry I created a mess. I won't be accepting any membership applications for quite a while. I won't be able to trust anyone for awhile. We'll just have to have fun by ourselves.. ok? I think we can handle that...lol. Hugs, Grace |
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| | | From: Grace· | Sent: 1/3/2006 5:32 PM |
| I created drama on here last night... and boy was I in the wrong... totally! I just now saw it ...as I was reflecting back on it all.... and I am sitting here so ashamed of my behavior.  I never in my wildest dreams would have seen myself as a drama creator...but it hit me full in the face just now, exactly how I indeed did do it, wrong motives and all. And I am very, very sorry for it. Gosh it's not fun to see those ugly sides of ourselves. But I do, and I repent. I say again.... I see what the other person involved was saying about me.. and oh gosh I have to choke on it... but she was right about some things. I just at the time really did not see that side of myself. My post here, did indeed prove it and expose it for me. I will do my best to change my ways. To that person, please know, I am really, really sorry. To the group.... and management... again... I was wrong, and I sincerely apologize. It won't happen again. Hugs, Grace | |
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| | | From: Grace· | Sent: 1/3/2006 5:41 PM |
And we are not private.... we are open for viewing, so that others may also be blessed by what God teaches us about ourselves on here. For any that do not know yet, ... I sinned yesterday... and even before then. With my mouth, and with my attitude. And I was called on it by someone I had made mad at me... and just a bit ago while reflecting over lasts nights drama, and I had to choke when it suddenly hit me how true some of what she said about me. Eating crow tastes horrible....let me tell you from experience. Here is the apology I just posted on the manager's group I'm a member of where I committed my sins last night. I really am sorry for my wrongs... and my apology is extended to you all as well. Hugs, Grace | I've written this message several times, and keep deleting it trying to find the right words about something. I had to ban NanabearX2 earlier... Come to find out she was here undercover... and is actually someone who is quite mad at me, and dislikes me greatly... because of a mistake I made on her group board.. and because of some things I've said. For your protection, we are now Private so she can't get back in and read etc. And also, for your protection... please do not speak about this in any of the other groups you belong to. She was here under an assumed name, and could be anywhere. Hugs, Grace.... who seeks your forgiveness for her mistakes... and deliverance from her foot-in-mouth disease. | <NOBR>First </NOBR> <NOBR>Previous </NOBR> <NOBR>2-4 of 4 </NOBR> <NOBR>Next </NOBR> <NOBR>Last </NOBR> <NOBR> Delete Replies </NOBR> | Reply
| | | You are truly forgiven. We are all human and none perfect, however we are working towards perfection. We can help each other with that. Rosie | | Reply
| | | Thank you Rosie..... I sure needed to hear that this morning. I think I understand a little more about possibly why Satan was allowed to pester Job...(to put it mildly for sure). Sometimes, we just need a little pestering from someone else in our lives, to bring out some things from inside our own selves that otherwise we would not see... since our eyes were becoming blinded by the brightness of the good stuff. Focus too much on the good things... and you can start to forget that the other stuff is still always there too.... underneath the rugs, stuffed in closets, or shoved away in drawers. Sooner or later... we will have to look at all the places inside ourselves when a little "house cleaning" is made necessary. Nothing like a little storm to come blowing things around and make you see things that you let yourself ignore before. MIL is moving... and is going through boxes, drawers and closets like she ain't done in years. So it is with us and spiritual housecleaning. Yep... sooner or later... something will come to us by God's hand to get those places inside us faced, in the open, and cleaned out in the same way she is having to do the physical places. It's also kind of like a couple of the dishes I have on the counter waiting to be cleaned out and washed, that have sat there with a bit of food still in them. The longer you let the bad stuff stay... the stinkier it gets. We get to stinking spiritually... but oft times we are not even aware of it, and we go about our merry way thinking... it's not bad, there's nothing wrong. But God sure knows different.... He can smell stink a mile away from us... yet, He's close enough to live inside us... so goodness.... when it gets bad enough to bring our attention to it... we best pay attention and get the rubber gloves of prayer and repentence on, and get things cleaned up. And like with Job... sometimes, He is gracious enough to bring out some things in us, that while at the present may not be causing any problem... good very well do so in the future if it's not taken care of now. And He sees on down the road... and so if we let Him, if we are willing to listen to the warnings... we can fix things early enough to keep from tripping over ourselves later on. Now... like I do everytime I fall on my face.... I'll get back up, and try again... to do it better the next time. God's mercy is so good.... and I'm so very grateful for it. Hugs, Grace | | Reply
| | | hello my friend, i can run on over to the siggy room n delete a siggy huh?lol, sorry this has happened to you, but you have won,you rose above it, mums the word.jeni | | |
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| | | From: Grace· | Sent: 4/25/2006 5:01 AM |
Letter I wrote, but did not send... Hi Gran..... I just went by the Game Room and saw that Proud Nana is not doing too well. I wanted to send my well wishes for her. No matter the past... it hurts that she is suffering so and I'm sorry for that and I do hope she gets better in time. Gran, also, please know that I am truly sorry for all the things that were considered to be done wrong on my part, or to be wrong about me. I thought I had tried so hard to be a nice person... but seemed to have failed miserably. The things written about me in the letter on my group back in January still hurt deeply to this day. Still not sure who wrote it. I have it saved, and occassionally re-read it to check myself. I still do not understand where most of the accusations stemmed from. But no matter if something said is untrue... ugly things said still hurt. Because it hurts to be so hated and disliked, by anyone. Every time I read it it's like getting slapped in the face all over again. And it makes me want to strive harder to make sure those things are never true about me. Gran... in my mind, I made one mistake. I totally accidentally mentioned my group in the wrong place ... and for what that mistake cost me, I'll forever deeply regret not being more dilligent to pay stricter attention to rules. Believe me, I've learned my lesson in that area. I truly, honestly... did it by oversight and not paying attention. It was not deliberate. When I was on your group Gran, I never ever had it in my mind to set out to hurt you or take your members...and it truly hurts to this day that you think that of me. Please know I'm sorry that things got so messed up between us. Things can never go back.... but please know I am sorry. I'm sorry I made the kind of mistakes that caused others to dislike me to such a strong degree. I didnt' realise there was so much 'wrong' or 'bad' about me. Especially the long messages I used to write. I had no idea they were so disliked. Yet in all the ill feelings sent towards me.... it does truly hurt me that Proudnana is suffering. And I will be sending up prayers for her healing. I don't know...?...maybe she dislikes me so much she would not want to even know I've sent this. I'll let you decide wether or not to pass my well wishes on to her. They are sincere and from the heart. I messed up. I screwed up. I made a mess of things. And as a result, I am greatly disliked by a few people. Hopefully my past mistakes will help me to do better in the future, and to be more careful about how I relate to other people. My past enemies may not ever again be my friends. That is the price we pay for our mistakes. Hopefully... through the lessons learned from all of this between us, I'll do better and won't make enemies out of my future friends. I'm going to try hard not to. I wish you only success and good things in your life Gran. I'll be sorry for the rest of my life for the mistakes I made. Sincerely, Grace |
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