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From: MSN NicknameDonnaVacloo2  (Original Message)Sent: 11/7/2008 9:36 PM
Went into the store today and bought a pack of cigarettes. The effects of smoking are now shown on the packet via a graphic photo. I got the one of the guy with spectacularly malignant throat lesions. I hope this shock treatment works in dissuading people from taking up the habit but for folks like me who actually enjoy smoking and are beyond hope it will just lead to a scenario where I ask for a pack of smokes and then hand them back because I already have the diseased lung photo and could I have the oral cancer photo pack instead as I am collecting the series. There are so many awful medical conditions to die from. Smoking related cancer is only one of them.
Where will it all end? Photos of alcohol damaged livers on wine bottle labels? Life-size photos of obese folk holding happy wopperburgers in every McD's or Burger King?


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From: MSN Nicknamemonty0007Sent: 11/7/2008 9:57 PM
We've had those here in Canada for a few years now.  Today I got the droopy cigarette illustrating how tobacco can cause impotence.    Once I did a bunch of stores before getting the mouth cancer one for my sister when she came to visit from Arizona, just so she could have one.  It's disgusting.   (I'm not a great sister!)
 
This brings up a major problem for me.  I happen to believe in the power of suggestion.  Very much.  I really believe that if you tell someone often enough, graphically enough and with enough conviction that their left foot really should hurt - eventually it will.  I've read enough reports about the power of the unconscious over illness and recovery to know that this campaign has the potential to harm much more than to help.
 
I can't believe anyone would be stupid enough to START smoking in this day and age.  No picture is going to deter anyone that dumb.   I'm sure that anti-smoking laws are helping getting ppl to quit more than these pictures as well...       The whole thing just really bothers me!
 
 
Just my opinion.   

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From: MSN NicknameGrizzerbearSent: 11/7/2008 10:11 PM
 Actually, those type of pictures may encourage smoking for teens. They may very well view those pictures as being like trading cards. Sick yes but even Monty said she went looking for one in particular. I can sure see kids...being they get into gross shit...doing this.
 It makes me wonder if tobacco companies already thought of this and are covertly using it as a vehicle to gain customers.
 
 I agree on the power of suggestion also. The mind is a very powerful thing.

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From: MSN NicknameDonnaVacloo2Sent: 11/7/2008 10:19 PM
Taken to it's logical conclusion, everytime someone went to the local car dealership to buy a new vehicle, there would be a grisly photo of a car wreck dangling from the rear view mirror.

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From: MSN Nicknamemonty0007Sent: 11/7/2008 10:36 PM
Very interesting points - both of you!
 
I believe the pictures are a government-imposed addition to the packs.  Maybe that's what they're stockpiling those caskets for????    (lmao!)
 
Don't even get me started on reckless drivers!  GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!  Nothing will talk a dumbass from reckless to wreckless, that I know of.  

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From: mtnwoman45Sent: 11/7/2008 10:52 PM
lol tom! you are so right!
I think its pretty rediculas for them to try to guilt trip smokers. Im so sick of it! The general public treats the smoker as a criminal and second-class citizens too. Ive been a non smoker many times in my life, and will be again soon, but nevertheless, my opinion and stance stays the same. Its like a bunch of bullies, always dogging the smokers.
Its not right. Ive had ah's come up to me and think they have the right to be rude and nasty to me because I was smoking a cigerette outside, away from anyone! Theyve created monsters if you ask me.
And your analogy to the new car, is great! I see it being takin to that
mw

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From: MSN NicknameGrizzerbearSent: 11/7/2008 11:46 PM
For the automobile a dead planet would be a good one...but they will do shit like that only if it affects a certain group...like smokers or as Tom said with the burger joints...obese people. The automobile causes more deaths than cigarettes do...when you take direct and indirect deaths yet discouraging the use of it would never happen.
 It's like a news broadcast I watched about the new (at that time) smoking ban in Boulder CO. The reporter smugly reporting how great the ban will be because of all the pollution smoking creates, health problems for others..then a car in the background starts up and belches a huge cloud of smoke into the air. It was classic but ignored.

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From: mtnwoman45Sent: 11/7/2008 11:58 PM
lol griz! no doubt he was a non smoker too! I see it as the chicken pecking syndrom! Lets all gang up!
mw

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From: MSN NicknameRockinRobin-APSent: 11/8/2008 4:27 AM
Even Obama hides to have his smokes.

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From: MSN NicknameLoveliestSeekingLynnieSent: 11/8/2008 4:59 PM
HE SMOKES ROBINOOSKI!? Well now I really dig the dude! LMAO! Kidding.
 
I have never seen a photo on a cig box yet, but I'm sure they're out there. I've taken to smoking for the past 6 mos and yes, it's a nasty habit, but my own decision, be it right or be it wrong. I hope to let it go soon and when I do it'll be because I chose to and not some photo on a box. However, I still don't find it offensive, but I'd like to think the general surgeon's warning should be suffice.

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From: MSN NicknameDonnaVacloo2Sent: 11/8/2008 6:56 PM
Despite being Scottish born and bred I was raised on two US tv ads from the 50's thanks to my old mum (God rest her) visiting the States with her parents in 1953.
"What'll you have? Pabst Blue Ribbon. What'll you have? Pasbst Blue Ribbon. What'll you have? Pabst Blue Ribbon! Pabst Blue Ribbon Beer! As a small child she used to sing that little ad to me. And there was the cigarette ad too. "Whether you smoke or not, make sure you have Phillip Morris in your home as a mark of distinction."
My old mum never smoked at all; her drinking was confined to a small glass of sherry on Christmas Day. I think America freaked her out. She talked about that one trip all of her life.

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