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From: MSN NicknameLINDAJEAN17  (Original Message)Sent: 10/31/2008 2:18 PM
Was he really blindsided?  When she refused to give him her HII he should of known something is not right. I guess she did the smart thing by turning on him, still I will miss him.  He was entertaining.


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From: MSN NicknameJimVanNestSent: 10/31/2008 2:24 PM
I'm shocked at how that went down.
 
Ken completely lied to her and she actually bought it and voted with the littel weasle.
 
Ace protected her for 21 days and without any kind of verification AT ALL, she dumped him.  Not a bright move, if you ask me.
 
I mean, how many times did her name come up?  And how many times did Ace completely sway the voting to someone else?  Almost every vote.
 
And he NEVER talked about voting her out.  In fact, Matty came to him dead set on voting Sugar and Ace turned him around to Crystal.
 
I'm blown away that it went down like that last night.  And Crystal can't leave this show soon enough for me.
 
Jim

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From: MSN NicknameSistahKarynSent: 10/31/2008 3:50 PM
I'm with you on that Jim.
 
Personally, I think it was a dumb move to vote Ace out now. They need his strength. They now don't stand a chance at all of ever winning.
 
At the rate Fang is going, there won't be any need for a merge. I hate to say it but I can see these idiots deciding to vote Matty out next!
 
Much as ace was a snake, strategically, they needed to get rid of Crystal. Her attitude is bringing the tribe down. JMO.
 
Karyn
 
 

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From: MSN Nickname·BubuSent: 10/31/2008 4:42 PM
They had Ace and have not won any of the 7 challenges now in a row. I don't think it will matter if he is gone. Ace may have been helping Sugar now but he would have turned on her at some point too.  Not sure if it was a good or bad move yet. I don't like Crystal either so I hope she is next. Matty's eye rolls are getting on my last nerve, I feel like Stefanie Lagrossa is back in the game.

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From: MSN Nicknameßecca¥Sent: 10/31/2008 6:34 PM
I'm bummed to just read that Ace is gone...good move or not. 
Enjoyed watching him and whatever accent he had, I liked it, too. 
I forgot to watch the show...very scary.  boo

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From: MSN NicknameTanya--WSent: 10/31/2008 8:19 PM
Jim, you are not alone with wanting Crystal gone.  I can't stand her and she is absolutely no help in any capacity.
 
I really wanted Ace to stay around awhile.

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From: MSN Nickname-Jonsey-Sent: 11/1/2008 1:45 AM
I have to say that both were a shock to me.  I never guessed it would be Ace.  Thought it was Crystal for sure.  And promo's were misleading on both.  I really don't know what Susie did to get out of that one. 

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From: ~Sue~Sent: 11/1/2008 6:52 PM
as much as i cannot stand ace...he was fun to watch..i will miss him. I hope sugar goes far in the game.
crystal is sooo annoying ...her attitude sucks & shes very confrontational(sp)
I hate people like that. which is why im not on the show..lol

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From: MSN Nicknameßecca¥Sent: 11/1/2008 8:35 PM
>>  Was he really blindsided?
 
IMO, no.  This is based on Ace's interview, my sense of him, and just watching the show.  And Probst can't say enough of the reverse in his blog and in the video I just saw of the show at CBS.  I'm sensing unnecessary drama.  It almost reminds me of TC/Jaime/China...throwing the false idol in the fire and making more of it than it was, etc.
 
Still gonna miss Ace.    Bugs me that he's gone before (loco en la cabeza?) Suzie more than anyone else.

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From: MSN NicknameLINDAJEAN17Sent: 11/1/2008 9:26 PM
Yes, I agree Becca.  I read one of his interviews.  It sounded like he saw it coning and he holds no grudges.  I will miss him.  He made for good TV.  I now think she made a big mistake.

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From: MSN NicknameJákeySent: 11/2/2008 1:53 AM
Ace must have known he was cooked when Sugar refused to give him the Idol.So claims that he was blindsided are a tad melodramatic. I found JP's blog to be just that--melodramatic clap trap.

I think she made the right choice for the sake of her own survival in the game.

As far as Ace protecting Sugar--let's put it more realistically and say Ace was protecting the Idol for his own selfish reasons. If Crystal had the idol he would have has his nose so far up her butt he would have seen her appendix. Ace was all about Ace and no one else. He made for interesting TV and I would rather watch his egotistical antics than the always angry Olympic dud Crystal.

Crystal has to go soon or I will go Rambo on my TV screen.

aarghhhhhhh

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From: MSN Nickname·BubuSent: 11/2/2008 1:17 PM
I agree Jakey, Ace knew it was a probablity. There is a confessional before he is voted off that he says the fact that Sugar didn't give him the idol that she may have turned against him and he could be going.  He wasn't blindsided.
Ace is all about Ace and yes he was protecting the idol and not Sugar.. I do think he would have protected her to some extent anyway because she was young and impressionable and he could manipulate her more easily. Look who he also latched onto, gullible Matty.  He was his next victim. I just hope he is not the next to go because of it. Crystal needs to go with her attitude!

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From: MSN NicknameinluvwithcolbySent: 11/4/2008 1:43 AM
Personally, I couldn't be happier at the way things went! Ace was really begining to act like he was the rule of the roost and the way he would laugh like everybody else was stupid was getting on my nerves. Enough of him thinking he could do everything by himself. Him and his annoying fake accent. Sugar is really showing people not to judge the book by the cover. She's a pretty smart cookie and very entertaining to watch!

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