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Message 1 of 12 in Discussion

From:

intense_female (Original Message)

Sent: 12/23/2001 9:12 AM

regarding encountering inorganic beings in dreaming:

"At times we fear them in the way you are feeling them, as a jolt of fear. Most of the time, they materialize themselves right in front of us. Since at the beginning of dreaming we have no experience whatsoever with them, they might imbue us with fear beyond measure. That is a real danger to us. Through the channel of fear, they can follow us to the daily world, with disastrous results for us."

That is a blirp out of a carlos castenada book i'm reading. I'm not a big fan of the book series but this one sorta called to me in a book store. It goes on to simply say to never let them see you sweat (sounds familir huh K?). It also says that if you open the channel thru fear they can be worst that "pests".

I'm just wondering about your opinions on Night Terrors.

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Message 2 of 12 in Discussion

From: WildHeart

Sent: 12/23/2001 4:16 PM

hellooo.: )
I have never had experience with night terrors and I problay wont. At least i hope not. ha ha!
Who has ever had night terrors?

Message 3 of 12 in Discussion

From: Evonne

Sent: 12/23/2001 7:15 PM

Help, There is a Monster In My Garden

First Meeting

You are sitting there enjoying your special garden, blinking like a warm cat in the sun. You change your mood a little because you feel a presence there. Suddenly a horrible, ugly,monster comes raging toward you trampling your perfect flowers. You awaken suddenly, startled, frightened, and think to yourself, "What was that all about?" This time your heart is beating really fast and you find it difficult to fall back asleep. "Perhaps it was something I ate?" You get yourself ready for the next time.

Meeting Number Two

There you are again, enjoying the spring air in your dream garden. There is that raging little beastie again, trampling the flowers you so carefully replaced there. He runs right at you screaming bloody words, spit flying off of his lumpy, long tongue. This time you are ready. You know this is your garden, and only what you want stays there. So you toss the monster out with a flick of your mind.

Me Again, Episode Three

It seems it is difficult to get a moments peace. No sooner you arrive to your garden and the beast is there tearing up the flowers, even eating a few of them. As the monster is in the middle of your garden, you say, "Stop that please." You toss him out again. Perhaps he will learn. You forgot to ask him to stop last time anyway. Even a monster deserves one nice warning.

Take Four.

The monster is bigger this time. He is running right towards you, annoying you. So he doesn't crush your flowers yet. You know and remember to ask questions. "Who are you?" you ask. "You can call me Al," the critter answers. You wake up. "Al?"

Five and Still Going Strong.

OH NO!!! That little !#$(& !#$(&*#!$ is back and he is even bigger this time! He steps over your house making the roof slightly crooked and this is really getting annoying. "Stop right there!" you yell. He stops and becomes your size. "Is there something you want to show me?" you ask. He gets excited and runs towards you, trampling a little path through your flowers. You close your eyes because you thought he learned not to do that. "Woops!" the critter looks a little surprised at himself. "I wanted to tell you that no one is perfect and everyone makes mistakes. Me and even you." He throws himself out of your garden this time for trampling your flowers.

You realize that Al is your bosses name at work who keeps on making changes to your project. Al really, really annoys you and picks up the seemingly tiniest little things and makes them seem big. You take the changes as big because you put your heart into everything you do. It is just not the way Al does it.

So which came first? Al or the monster? Perhaps the answer is different every time... Anyway, this time you can see it, there is a plan of action you can make to help you. What you can see, you can deal with. You have this nice feeling deep inside that the monster is gone. You have made up your mind not to sweat the small stuff anymore. Let Al stay up at night instead doing that if that is how he has to be. Hopefully he will learn a different way for himself in time.

Number One-Hundred-and-Six, Pick Up Sticks.

You fell asleep while watching television. Things have been quiet in paradise for awhile. As soon as you arrive, you suspect someone has been in your garden. Maybe you even suspect the presence of two beings...

Message 4 of 12 in Discussion

From:

intense_female

Sent: 12/24/2001 3:26 AM

That sounds like a nice garden Evonne. :-)

Wild I dont and have never had night terrors. I have known people that have and some will even awaken with scratches, bruises etc on their bodies. And almost paralysed with fear of it.

Message 5 of 12 in Discussion

From:

truthhunter13

Sent: 12/24/2001 4:12 AM

Yeah. I have had some very lucid and intense terrifying dreams. They started when I first was introduced to metaphysics and physics etc.... My dreams became very lucid from the beggining of fall until the end of Jan..

There was alot of sybolic stuff I had to work thru.. And I havent dreamed like that since that was 4 years ago. One year before I met you wondeful bunch of crazy ass people

I would like to get back to that. So eat alot of fish. I was told that helps with dreaming. And for some reason I dont question it seems to work for me. And then I begin to fly. in my dreams I love it! and thats when I know Im dreaming and take control. its kinda my key that allows me to awaken in the dream. Because I certainly dont fly when I'm awake or at least not yet ! Love Peace and Hair Grease ..............

Message 6 of 12 in Discussion

From: Evonne

Sent: 12/25/2001 6:25 PM

Perhaps terrors can be misleading?

I had a recent experience in dream land that seemed to be going in a horrible direction at first. Things were happening that were causing me great concern and it seemed to be due to an appearance of a being. It seemed this being had his own motives that may not correspond with mine. I may have even been in trouble. The situation seemed really tricky.

There was a struggle of sorts. We do not speak the same language, so the communication between us is like a puzzle--at least to me it is. He uses few words I understand and mostly pictures. I made it out of this situation successfully by solving this puzzle and sent a message about my intentions and a thanks for the lesson. Whew. Close one.

He quickly appeared again.

By this point, I am on the lookout for him, however, his energy seemed different this time. I pondered the newest puzzle being on the lookout for another dangerous trap. Is he really my friend?

After teaching me another important point, he put his hand up above his head to dance.

I raised my hand up to touch his, danced, and felt the energy.

I didn't get it.

He showed me light playing inside a water drop.

I watched the beauty and smiled.

I didn't get it.

He showed me a seal clapping his flippers in the air.

I watched my new friend clapped his hands over his head.

I didn't get it.

He showed me a dolphin leaping in the air and flipping its fins with happiness.

I liked the picture of playfulness.

I didn't get it.

I saw a picture of myself in my new cape spinning and the fabric fanning out into bat's wings.

It was interesting.

I didn't get it.

He gave me a bat cycle as a surprise that I rode into another town with my arms out on the handle bars.

It was a real surprise, a beautiful gift, and it made me suspicious.

I still didn't get it.

So, today I am getting out of the bath and drying my hair walking towards my room. I was thinking about this new exercise the physician gave me to do to fix my shoulder. It is a "last ditch" effort. I have to hang my arm and swing it with my body while balancing big weights between my fingers. You see my shoulder movement is restricted and I can't perform overhead arm motion well since my accident. These weights are getting bigger and bigger.

I am up to pretty heavy weights now. Other people sweat, close their eyes, as they watch me balance them and swing my arm. They think I will lose the weight and make a hole in the floor or even drop one on my toe.

So I having this fantasy about being on the roof of the house as I walk along. I just want to balance something like 200 pounds between my fingers and just let my arm hang down from the roof of the house. ANYTHING to finally pop this #!$(*&!#$ shoulder into the correct position! Meanwhile, Christmas dinner is smelling yummy. Suddenly, I feel faint... Like something hit me in the head.

As I get this feeling I hear,

"HEY! HANGING HUGE WEIGHTS WHILE SMELLING GOOD FOOD IS JUST A TRICK!"

I recover without falling. What does that mean? Suddenly I get it!!!!!!!!!!! (I have no idea why either.)

I am using energy on the OUTSIDE to balance these big weights. It is more like balance shows in Yoga than healing. I need to get more energy on the inside!

You see in dream land, I no longer have to use my arms to levitate and fly. I can just walk on the sky or think myself someplace else. What I need to do is use my arms in dream land more! Flapping my arms like a human as I fly is also the wrong energy for me. The way I perceive the physics does not work well because it stops the energy flow for me. (Although it has no basis in dream land?) However, flying like a bird, or a bat, is just the right motion to make magick in my shoulder!

Merry Christmas!

One syllable.

YAY!

Or Two ...

Doh.

So you see, the being that grabbed my attention which I perceived as a threat. However, this being seems to now be helping me a great deal. I still check my back for now, to be sure. I am also a beginner in this land, so I cannot say this is always the case.

Have to go! I am going back to look for the pastrami.

+<O;-D>

(1 recommendation so far)

Message 7 of 12 in Discussion

From:

Kellog_bluff

Sent: 12/27/2001 10:32 PM

ya can lead a (donkey/student/"fill in the blanks") to the water, ya can toss water on her, ya can yell at her about how cool and tasty that water is and will feel...ya can scream at her that she needs the water to float (donkey/student/"fill in the blanks don't swim well in mid-air), ya can hit her over the head with a water balloon...but ya can't get a mule to swim unless and until that little ol (donkey/student/"fill in the blanks") decides she's ready to.

She swims quite well when she decides she's ready to.

terrors can be misleading. Terror being what it is, nevertheless - the intellectual acceptance of the previous statement will not do one much good, until one takes the risk of opportunity - and finds the opportunity in risk

Message 8 of 12 in Discussion

From:

solace©

Sent: 12/27/2001 11:16 PM

um. i have had night terrors, still do, though not as often as i used to. or maybe it just seems that way. i have woken up with bruises, muscle sprains and strains, and even tight knots of muscle in places where in my dreams i was shot/stabbed/kicked/ran into a table. all of my injuries relate concisely with what i dreamt the night in question. i've seen things appear, where i 'wake up' in my house only to find the light switch does not work and that that shadowy thing has big shiny teeth when it grins and it does the floaty across my field of vision and then i wake up - for real- and sometimes the feeling that that shadowy thing exuded remains... and sometimes things make creaks in the house and one time something with big shiny teeth leapt at me from the darkness of another room when waking i stepped into the hall, and as i ran down the stairs it made a big bang... but i didn't know til later when i returned (with company!) that all the books had fallen off of one shelf only of the book stand in that room....... so is it real or was something even there? who cares... i don't worry about the shadowy things anymore than i wake up screaming now.. which is mostly not ever.... but the dreams remain the same. maybe we can get used to anything.

Message 9 of 12 in Discussion

From: WildHeart

Sent: 12/28/2001 3:35 AM

Holy shit,thats brutal buddy. I bet you are really strong,not just used to it. I have also heard of this,where entities attatch themselves to you and do bizzare things,can even get into your thoughts,ie.dreams.You know its there,something like an elemental or something. YOu can do things to get rid of it,,cause literally,they are attatched to the aura. Prayer works,light,love and call upon angels,even if you dont believe in them.
Although,its pretty cool now,no nightmares,or terrors from what yoou say. I hope its gone,but i definatly beleive in that sort of thing. I have read to many true encounters and stories and information from Edgar Cayce,whom is about the only one I have ever really considered, to not believe this

Message 10 of 12 in Discussion

From: Evonne

Sent: 12/31/2001 3:23 PM

Message 11 of 12 in Discussion

From: Evonne

Sent: 1/24/2002 4:11 AM

http://communities.msn.com/SpiritalLearningCenter/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=595&LastModified=4675306107292854461

I was going through the old board, when I found a related message on Night Terrors. Take a peek!

Message 12 of 12 in Discussion

From: Evonne

Sent: 2/1/2007 12:22 PM

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