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| | | From: Maia (Original Message) | Sent: 02/03/2007 18:38 |
 Ok this is one of my leading topic posts!!  ya will see the links more as time goes by!! Its a huge subject and one i hope when we explore will be quite interesting!! So to start wth the questions are, Do you believe our conception, being carried in the womb, childbirth and few few days of being born bare any influence upon our spirit/soul that is entering this physical body? And also if ya know or can find out about your own birth, was it relatively stressfree, was there a period of seperation from ya mother, was your mothers health good thru the pregnancy or was there complications, that kinda thing, i know it wont always be possible to find out but if ya know and dont mind sharing jot it down!! Much love Maia xxxxxxxxxxx |
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Yes Nova, I would just think of the word that the teacher gave and I would get the answer. Never thought it strange until maia brought up the subject. I used to take so many things for granted until people were talking and after I put in my tuppence worth they would look at me rather strangely. I'm still rambling!!!! Polly xxxxxxxx |
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This is a really interesting subject I think. In my own experience as the 3rd and middle child I always felt like the odd one out. As far as I can understand my mum had me after she'd miscarried and I was very much planned, but it would seem that she went back to work helping out at the farm straight away. I think she wasn't very happy at that moment in time either as we were living with her inlaws, my dad's parents and brothers and she never got on that well with them. She said she used to leave me sleeping in the pram in the middle of the field. She also stopped breastfeeding very abruptly, she kept a diary for each child for awhile and I was allowed to read it finally a few years ago, and it would seem she found having me hard work and thought of me as clingy so she went back to work as a nurse working nights in order to stop the breastfeeding. Maybe she had postnatal depression which probably was not really diagnosed in the 70's... I think I have felt rejected a lot when growing up, but now we have a good relationship, although I now live in a different country and we don't see each other a lot, I know that it's not my fault that she felt like she did and I also know now that she does love me, she just has a hard time expressing it. Oh and as for being distant, my teachers kept telling my parents on parent's evenings that I was very intelligent and always did well BUT if I could just stop the daydreaming...LOL. I used to be far away in thoughts most of the time... As for me when I had James it was all very traumatic a 3 day long labour where they in the end considered a cesarian as I was so exhausted, but in the end he was born naturally and when he was born he wasn't well. He screamed non-stop for the first week of his life, breastfeeding just didn't work and in the end a midwife finally took my concerns seriously, weighed him and he had lost a 3rd of his bodyweight and was close to dying. Rushed into hospital he was in for 2 weeks before he was well enough to come home and so we were separated and it was a very hard period in my life, I think we didn't bond very well as a result of it and I know that I have a closer bond with Jessica who was born after a few hours labour it all went very well, she was calm and happy and breastfeeding was a piece of cake, she hardly cried either and was an easy baby to take care of, whereas James has always been hard work LOL, feeding every 2 hours when he was a baby, needing much less sleep from an early age and still don't sleep anywhere near as much as children of his own age... He has always been and will probably also always be hyper energywise and I really now wouldn't want him to be any different as I love him just the way he is. XXX Anne |
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Polly, I am always rambling its the only exercise I get  , LOL Love Nova xxxxxxxxxxxx |
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Great topic , gets you thinking lol. Well mums pregnancey was fine, the normal sickness but not much else. I was three weeks late (should have been an aries but i was more then likely at a See you soon party and forgot the time hehe)and a 72 hour labour that was realy rough on her i didnt want to come out lol and born at 10:10 pm 8lbs 9 ounces there was no seperation in early birth. Mum went back to work and i had a babysitter carol or my nan would look after me. I do have a very close relationship with my mum we are very open with each other. I was named after Rachel off of Payton Place to those to young to remember the show its the same as being named after rachel form friends lol and two of my dads ex girlfriends (cheers dad ) My mum was always saying, i was in a world of my own , come back down to earth or are weee in the room? lol. My son Michael was three weeks late as well 12 hour labour induced, lots of pain ,baby got distressed out came a 8lbs 8 ounces bunny rabbit (thats what he looked like when he slept lol) at 8:16 pm, no separation at all except for two hours when i broke down with tears to many visators at once, stayed in hospital for three days knew his name since i was a little girl, he is named after Arch Angel Michael. Oliver was spot on 12 hour labor, demanded the drugs as soon as i got there smart movvvve ahhh, Oliver had to be suctioned out or it was going to be a c section, he arrived at 5:05pm he was 10lbs 10 ounces,no separation at all, left the next day as i couldnt handle the crying baby across the room kept waking Oliver up(mother never pick it up the nurses had to bless) Oliver was known as baby with no name for the first 6 weeks as his dad couldnt come up with a decent name so i picked Oliver and everyone just started calling him that so his dad had no choice in the end, Oliver drifts off alot to and then comes out with some intresting stuff sometimes. He looks like he is in trace when he drifts off lol. It was intresting reading the posts thanks for sharing and a good topic Maia xxxx Huggs Silver xxx |
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I really should proof read posts before i send them  sorry for typos people lolxxx |
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| | | From: Maia | Sent: 09/03/2007 21:45 |
I need to get my head about me for this post so i havent ignored it lol but i started work at 7.30am yesterday and got bk same time tonight with 1 1/2 hrs sleep needless to say im here only 1/4 part lol! and half of that is spirit lmao!! Will get answering this after a good old sleep! Thanks for answering guys i found this all fasincating as it goes hope you like it do and can relate in some ways be intersting to see how many of us do! According to this theory! Much love Maia xxxxxxxx |
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| | | From: Maia | Sent: 10/03/2007 18:52 |
so part of this for ya all to think bout is when there is a trauma of some kind experienced, whilst either in the womb and carrying of the pregnancy or within the first few days of conception, such as mum experiencing emotional distress, or worry over a potential illness, or a threat to pregnancy, even the stress of a relationship being involved, or for whaever reason a seperation when concieved, either emotional or literal, wether thru choice or an illness etc, that.......we use an natural energetic defense against this, and at this stage of our lives that it so simply draw back into spirit, where we are coming from, (hence the distant far away thing in my prior post) it is used as a defense so that early on it becomes natural for us to draw away, we find it easy, that in the end we use this defence in any situation we feel threatened, but that usually we compensate for this by being very with it on an outward personality level, other ppl find us very together! Much love Maia xxxxxxxxxxxx |
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Maia, I can see this point more clearly with Louise, I had an easy pregnancy but not with the best external factors - a 21 yr old unmarried Mum, but only the other day she was talking about one of the dramas of our past and she said that in her memory she can see herself sitting on the beanbag while the events were happening, ie in 3rd person. I personally though think this happens on two levels - as a child yes I would drift off so to speak but as an adult when a situation occurs - my survival instincts now kick in. Love Nova xxxxxxxxxxxxx |
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My mum was told after having my bro not to have any more children as she and him both nearly died she should have had a ceasrean but they let her have a natural bnirth instead. Her pregnacy with me was not an easy one and she was really ill fater i was born again she had a natural birth.She suffred from what we now know as postnatal depression really severely I have been told that i was avery distant child with a vivid imgaination (or so they thought) but i was also intelligent as well and was able to make up thesew good stories for school. She said that i used to have these instict for things and that when i was asked where they had come from i just smiled and refused to answer. I also used to go off and play alone but i wasn't alone if that makes sense. Although i had some really good friends i never felt as though i was one of them i always felt much much older. I felt as though i was older than my mum at times. She has this old box of pics and when i used to look through some of them i used to say oh yes i remeber them but they had died way before i was born |
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| | | From: Maia | Sent: 02/04/2007 00:19 |
 Ok so this seperation or stress, trauma during conception or early birth, causes us to retreat spiritually, bk to where we come, so therfor at a young moment we were shown abandondment, seperation forced as not what we wanted even if thru mothers illness or stress, on some level it created an adandonment in the greatest hour, birthing. Now is it possible that because we are energy we carry that energy thru and it in some way creates a issue in the base need we have in needing to belong and connect? Which is why for one of the things we often appear far away! lol Much love Maia xxxxxxxxxxxx |
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| | | From: Wheezie | Sent: 02/04/2007 03:11 |
I think that, for me, this separation has created a sense of me being more needy. I've always wanted to feel accepted by my friends and family and I guess I still do. But on the same hand, I sometimes take a step back and try to keep my distance incase of rejection or abandonment. This was evident last night when we had the birthday party. EVenthough my friends had organized the party and were doing everything while people were here, I was still wanting to be in the kitchen putting things out and clearing up, making sure everyone had a drink and something to eat. Finally my friend, Debbie, grabbed hold of me and pushed me out of the kitchen into the living room... told me it was my party and I should be visiting with people. I was almost scared to do that. I wanted to be there but also wanted to just watch things going on. Does that make any sense? I do agree with you Maia, that in that most important hour(s), we need to have that connection. Thanks for revealing that to me (and others in the group). It really explains a lot. Hugs, Wheezie |
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yes whezie i am like this as well hate been at the fore front of attention also my mother had been in hospital a lot during my childhood and i felt so desperate for her that is when i started to leave my body i would see myself in bed and i would be on the ceiling dont remember what age it started or finished ,i remember i did this last year when i was standing over my bed watching myself and corey in bed , love nanaxxxxxxxxxxx |
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I know for me this became most prominent after I had lost my parents - the need for being part of a family was devastating even though I had wonderful siblings. I honestly did not feel complete again until my first daughter was born, Perhaps this is why it came so strongly. Love Nova xxxxxxxxxxxxx |
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| | | From: Maia | Sent: 15/08/2007 17:38 |
Bumping up!!! Have a read, leave a comment! Much love Maia xxxxxxxxx |
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