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From: MSN Nicknametaka00381  in response to Message 25Sent: 12/1/2007 10:10 AM
Just to remind you the link I have posted previously:

https://www.lowbluelights.com

The problem is blue light - there is a 530 nm separate receptor for it in human eyes directly connected to the pineal ... Red light is of course even farther from the blue spectrum but as the link above suggests yellow/orange is sufficient and easier to purchase in an electric shop.

As far as I remember Ray Peat was rather against melatonin and suggested more bright illumination to shorten nights. IMO this is same as with the insulin - you want to have strong spikes at the right times but not constantly elevated (SAD). From what I have red the best is to put orange glasses on the face or switch to yellow/red light early evening but get the naked face (and possibly whole body due to VitD) on the sun in the morning (same time everyday if possible).

As for the history - recently the Japanese patent blue light LED diodes appeared in the market - e.g. Christmas house and street illuminations. When used in night they may greatly disrupt the natural melatonin signaling. Let's see if we have them classified as health risk in cup of decades ...