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From: MSN NicknameHansSelyeWasCorrect  in response to Message 3Sent: 6/15/2008 10:57 PM
Science is not about "correct" anything. It's about putting forth a hypothesis, which should then be tested as rigorously as possible. Do you think "HIV/AIDS" has been tested to such a degree? I've already stated my ideas and provided supporting information (have you read the essays and relevant threads in the general forum?). We were warned (I was a young man at the time and remember) about how it would soon spread to the heterosexual community, how huge numbers of people would soon die of it, how the numbers of the dead would increase dramatically, but how a vaccine would soon be developed. How many "strikes" do these individuals get before they are "called out?"

I'd like to hear what your view is, but if you don't really have a coherent one, then so be it. I think that I can "cure" just about anyone who is "HIV infected" but otherwise still in apparently good health, but I'd need to be allowed to demonstrate this in a scientifically valid way (in other words, I'd have to be sure that the person is not doing dangerous things, like taking illegal drugs). And of course that person could not take the truly deadly "AIDS drugs," so I doubt that I would be allowed to demonstrate the correctness of my position. I would be more than happy to be "infected with HIV," but the "HIV" would have to be isolated. I would not accept a blood transfusion from an "AIDS patient," because my hypothesis is that excess antigenic exposure (which occurs with transfusions) leads to "premature aging" of the "immune system."

I hope you understand, however, that this is not necessary. In science, if you can directly refute a hypothesis, then it must be abandoned, and this is why I suggested that "HIV negative people" be tested for "high viral loads" when they get acute flu symptoms. If they do, then a direct refutation has occurred, and "HIV/AIDS" is gone. Can you at least answer me here - is there any other way to view such a result? Such an experiment would be cheap and easy to do, which is why I'm more than willing to pay for it, if I am wrong. Why don't you take me up on this, if you are so sure of your position?


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     re: my own views on AIDS   MSN Nicknamemattissotired  6/16/2008 2:21 AM