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From: MSN NicknameHansSelyeWasCorrect  in response to Message 172Sent: 6/29/2008 5:53 PM
I posted this on another newsgroup, but I'll copy and paste it here because it may be helpful to "newbies" to the "HIV/AIDS controversy" (which shouldn't be a "controversy," because the scientific method was created to eliminate it:

QUOTE: I'll take a different "angle" on this. Our own "Softrat" has made arguments about real viruses (not "HIV") being endogenous, and without actual, direct experimental support for this claim, I think we've gotten sidetracked to some degree. Instead, there are some clear points about viruses one can glean from the literature (things all agree upon, with the exception of "HIV"):

Viruses either kill quickly (very, very rarely) or don't kill at all(unless you body is incredibly weak). Some can be annoying (some Herpes), reactivating from time to time. The key point here is that the virus doesn't make a conscious decision to reactivate, but instead stressful conditions in the body lead to reactivation. When viruses become problematic, they do so by prompting an inflammatory response, which is what does the actual damage or at the very least causes symptoms. Viruses do not kill by destroying tissues or organs, as "flesh-eating bacteria" can.

So where does "HIV" fit into this picture? It doesn't, on any level. Let's say "HIV" is a real and exogenous virus. It doesn't kill quickly, but it is said to reactivate later. Why would it reactivate later? Since viruses are so simple, and since in the early days of the "AIDS epidemic" it was observed that "HIV" killed within about 18 months at most, there is no explanation for why this is no longer the case, not that a virus could kill in 18 months anyway. This might be true for one or two recorded cases of rabies, for instance, but not for a viral epidemic. A virus simply cannot, by itself, kill many years after infection. Such a claim assumes that the body has basically no adaptive capabilities.

If the body needed more of a certain class of T cells, it could simply create more of them. Essentially, "HIV/AIDS" was the creation of people raised on watching movies like "Creature from the Black Lagoon." They assumed something monstrous had to be causing what was later called "AIDS." They were incapable of imagining that young people could do anything to their bodies that would lead to a severely compromised immune system. So, on the one hand, the young adult human body was viewed as nearly indestructible, and so on the other hand, something incredibly horrible was required to kill it within 18 months. Despite no evidence that "HIV" is present in any human, this notion ossified, and because more and more evidence has come to light to contradict "HIV/AIDS," more and more impossible notions need to be generated to support it.
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     re: The "HIV/AIDS" debate.   MSN NicknameHansSelyeWasCorrect  7/20/2008 7:12 PM
     re: The "HIV/AIDS" debate.   MSN NicknameHansSelyeWasCorrect  7/23/2008 7:04 PM