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From: MSN Nicknamerensielk  (Original Message)Sent: 12/18/2007 12:06 PM
What type of diet you would recommend, Hans, in terms of macronutrient ranges? For example, would you say 20-25% by calories is best, or more or less? How much carbs and fats relative to protein? Shouldn't most carbs be unrefined, like fresh unheated honey (YS Farms or Really Raw)?

I have also seen you mention that you'll eat small amounts of "junk food" (like Cool Whip and high saturated fat cookies), but what type of limits would you put on that? Would you eat like one gram of high quality protein for each gram of sugar? Wouldn't it be best not to eat refined sugar, corn syrup, and HFCS? I feel artificial sweeteners are also dangerous, too, as they are basically just chemicals.

I get 85-88% dark chocolate (Lindt's or Hachez) sometimes, because they are very low in carbs (4-5 g / 40 g serving) and also fairly saturated, similar to butter. Probably, it would be a little better to get a 100% chocolate baking bar and combine it with some fresh honey and sea salt.

I think we need to at least maintain a certain ratio of protein to carbs in the diet, and esp limit refined carbs to below the protein. Ideally, little or no refined carbs. But I'm not a fanatic and occasionally have high-SFA desserts.

I found some macaroons made with coconut oil, palm kernel oil, and palm oil, that are about 91% SFAs. But they are also high in refined sugar and glucose syrup, so it wouldn't seem wise to eat too much of them or too often.

I'm glad I saw through this "saturated fat is bad" nonsense a long time ago, and I agree that a lot of the harm from today's junk food comes from the vegetable oils. I think if "junk food" was still made with tropical oils, like it was 60-70 years ago, many health problems would not exist. But I also think people ate junk foods very rarely 60-70 years ago.


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From: MSN NicknameHansSelyeWasCorrectSent: 12/18/2007 10:43 PM
I've talked about the diet of my great grandparents, who live to be 96 and 100, for example. But as far as the ratio of carbs to lipids to protein, I'd say that is something that each person can and perhaps should experiment with to see what works best. Listen to your body. I should have. Even after I went vegan to "cure" my gastrointestinal problems, I still had problems with things like greasy falafels - highly unsaturated oils were used to cook them. Then when I tried fish oil, I had similar problems. Again, if I would have listened to my body, it would have all made sense a long time ago.

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From: MSN NicknamerensielkSent: 12/20/2007 7:18 PM
So, you would just eat the RDA for protein and experiment to see if more was beneficial? People should try different things and see what works best. They might find they do better on a low-carb diet with many types of animal fat, or some raw and some cooked, or mostly raw. Others might find they do better keeping PUFAs low, even with raw animal food. Or they may find the PUFA issue is more important, as I did.

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From: MSN NicknameHansSelyeWasCorrectSent: 12/20/2007 11:08 PM
Well, there is an issue of the "quality" of the protein, not just the amount. Some people are much bigger than others, so they will likely need more protein. And some people are a lot more active, so they will likely need more. However, in terms of substances to avoid, the evidence is clear that some things of dangerous to long-term health. One point I often make to people is that if you can eat a satisfying diet that prevents "chronic disease" (which are related to "inflammation," which is related to having AA in your cells), then it seems like a very good idea to adopt such a diet.

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