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From: MSN Nicknametaka00381  in response to Message 1Sent: 8/18/2008 9:00 AM
Here I describe some of the symptoms I have experienced after 1 �?1.5 year of PUFA restriction. I wouldn't classify myself as EFAD since I still consume some PUFA-rich foods such as fried items, meat, raw fish and eggs occasionally. I have just stopped any Omega-3/6 supplements and tried to avoid foods rich in vegetable oils and fatty cold water fish as much as possible and practical. This translates to something like having a fried item and fish/salmon meat once a week but consuming butter, cheese, meat cooked with coconut oil, pasta with olive oil on daily basis. I hope to have reduced the Omega-3/6 content in my body to a level which allows for the appearance of Mead acid in some tissues where it is meant to be like the cartilage. Also the difference between me and Hans is that despite my sedentary employment, I try to exercise with weights every other day what should contribute to the burning of excessive AA (in the muscle tissue) and hopefully compensate for the occasional Omega-6 consumption. The Omega-3/6 present in the natural context of fish meat or plants should pose no big problem since it has been present in this form throughout the human evolution. But the fish/flax seed oil supplements and foods cooked in the refined vegetable oils contain disproportionally high amounts of PUFAs which may not be even “essential�?for the aging man ...

Positive:
- less night sweat (even in hot and humid weather)
- no more eroding teeth (at their base)
- greatly reduced formation of tartar on the back side of teeth
- no sorethroats upon wakeup
- reduced white furring of the tongue
- no more bad breath
- not catching a cold for the whole season (just 1-2 days feeling weaker rather than the usual 1-2 weeks of severe symptoms including myeloperoxidase-stained green sputum)
- less inflammation in my osteoarthritic knees allowing doing weighted squats again
- no more aching joints (pain in flexed elbows used to be common)
- increased aerobic performance �?no more “shortness of breath�?when riding bicycle on the usual slope
- small white lipidic inclusions in the skin receding and moles getting lighter color
- no sunburns with blisters after hitting the summer beach without any sunscreen protection (just red and sensitive skin disappearing in a few days)
- sweat doesn't have an ammonia odor like before
- no nighttime urination which used to be common even when avoiding drinks before bed

Negative:
- dermatitis on feet and toes in winter diagnosed as chilblains by a dermatologist (could be caused by sunbathing in a cold weather to get VitD?)
- cold feet in the winter (some AA metabolites function as vasodilatators)
- seasonal dandruff (probably triggered by the yellow sand blowing from deserts in China and packing on some dioxins on the way)
- decreased libido
- no muscle soreness after exercise and not getting a high pump during weigh training


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     re: mercola.com & coconut oil safe?   MSN NicknameHansSelyeWasCorrect  8/18/2008 10:11 PM