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Benefits of the L-1 Visa - Mrs.Miggens - 3/4/2003 - 8:08:46 AM

Does the H1B program present too much annoying red tape?

Don't worry!

The L-1 Visa program has been developed to circumvent the red tape!

http://www.hooyou.com/L-visa/

Totally different targets - The Celestine Prophet - 3/4/2003 - 8:08:46 AM

L-1A visas are designed for intra-company executive transferees to come and work in the United States. The L-1A visa holders must have been employed in an executive or managerial capacity with the foreign company in an overseas location for at least one continuous year out of the past three years.

Additionally, the U.S. company and the foreign company must be related in a specific manner, such as by having a parent/subsidiary relationship or by being the same or an affiliate employer.

In addition, the L-1A holder must be coming to the U.S. to work for the U.S. company in an executive or managerial capacity. L-1B category covers specialized knowledge personnel. An example of a specialized knowledge personnel would be an individual who possesses proprietary knowledge about a company's product and who travels to the U.S. to impart his or her specialized knowledge to new U.S. employees.

Re: Totally different targets - Mrs.Miggens - 3/4/2003 - 8:08:46 AM

Yes I totally agree! This is why it is SO deceptive.

Thanks!

It isn't deceptive at all - Meriweather Pennyfarthing - 3/4/2003 - 8:08:46 AM

There is no way an L-1 could be substituted for an H-1B. Don't you even read what you post links to?

Re: It isn't deceptive at all - Mrs.Miggens - 3/4/2003 - 8:08:46 AM

Thanks Dr. Delos.

Where are the regulatory controls? If based on self reporting, then there are none.

Re: It isn't deceptive at all - Meriweather Pennyfarthing - 3/4/2003 - 8:08:46 AM

Any lawyer who participated in any deceptive practice using L-1's to thwart the immigration laws would be disbarred and fined. Not EVERYONE thinks as deviously as you do. MOST people are very conscientious about obeying the law.

Your contempt for right and wrong is all to obvious in your behavior here and your incessant ILLEGAL copying of copyrighted material from this forum to the dump.

Re: It isn't deceptive at all - Meriweather Pennyfarthing - 3/4/2003 - 8:08:46 AM

That should be "all too obvious"

Re: It isn't deceptive at all - Mrs.Miggens - 3/4/2003 - 8:08:46 AM

>>MOST people are very conscientious about obeying the law.

Thats a relief.

Re: It isn't deceptive at all - Meriweather Pennyfarthing - 3/4/2003 - 8:08:46 AM

Being around crooked and devious people all the time along with thinking up the best ways to break the laws all the time has given you a far different outlook on right and wrong than than vast majority of society has. Believe it don't, but MOST people are moral, ethical and upstanding citizens who aren't always looking for ways to get around the laws and normas of society like you are.

Re: It isn't deceptive at all - Mrs.Miggens - 3/4/2003 - 8:08:46 AM

Yes. Herein lies the problem:

>>Any lawyer who participated in any deceptive practice using L-1's to thwart the immigration laws would be disbarred and fined.

Do you really need to *violate* the law to *thwart* the intent of the law?

I appreciate the Horitio Alger bent Delos, but in today's modern world of international commerce, immigration regulations are merely a 'constraint' to higher profits. Since the law is written *so* loosely that one can 'thwart' the (supposed) intent of the Law, what makes you think that it was ever written to be strictly enforced?

The way it is written - Meriweather Pennyfarthing - 3/4/2003 - 8:08:46 AM

ANYONE who knows of any violations and especially anyone who thinks that a company is bending the regulations in such a way as to cost them their job is the police force that will report the violations.

It is like the software copyright laws. Of course it is impossible for even Microsoft to go to every company on the planet to look for illegal copies of their software, but disgruntled employees and former employees do that job FOR them.

There are so few violations reported, that any logical, THINKING person would naturally conclude that violations are rare.

You keep showing your "crook" mentality. *Normal* people don't think of violating laws "just because it is possible."

Re: The way it is written - Mrs.Miggens - 3/4/2003 - 8:08:46 AM

>>ANYONE who knows of any violations and especially anyone who thinks that a company is bending the regulations in such a way as to cost them their job is the police force that will report the violations.

Again, Delos, doesn't happen in the real world (at least not enough). It would seem to me to be a VERY difficult crime to prove. One would need access to hard to obtain documentation, and then prove intent of wilfullness to break the law.

Since the law appears to be written so that almost any company (having the appropriate structure) could legitimately claim to be following the letter (if not the intent of) the law, there is no prosecutorial crime.

Delos, its a bad law.

First of all - Meriweather Pennyfarthing - 3/4/2003 - 8:08:46 AM

More than 99.99% of all companies in the US can't use it at all because they are not subsidiaries of foreign firms and have no related manegerial positions in foreign countries to transfer people from. It is very helpful for those companies that do need to transfer such people between countries.

Your concern is misplaced. Worry about something more important or at the very least, something that potentially affects more than a handful of people and companies.

Re: First of all - Mrs.Miggens - 3/4/2003 - 8:08:46 AM

>>Your concern is misplaced. Worry about something more important or at the very least, something that potentially affects more than a handful of people and companies.

Hmm. Thats your defense? It doesn't hurt many so why worry?

Re: First of all - Mrs.Miggens - 3/4/2003 - 8:08:46 AM

BTW:

"Additionally, the U.S. company and the foreign company must be related in a specific manner, such as by having a parent/subsidiary relationship or by being the same or an affiliate employer. "

My reading of the phrase above would also mean a US Parent and a foreign subsidiary.

Re: First of all - Mrs.Miggens - 3/4/2003 - 8:08:46 AM

Or even Brother/Sister.

Re: First of all - Meriweather Pennyfarthing - 3/4/2003 - 8:08:46 AM

Geez. Get REAL would you? Of ALL the things on Earth to worry about . . .

It is a teeny tiny, itsy bitsy, POTENTIAL problem. There are REAL problems to worry about - like 20,000,000 illegal aliens for example. And believe it or don't, they DO affect the middle and upper middle class workers in America because they DO take tens of thousands of their jobs.

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