Then for me, all the posters became a real wake-up call about what is happening in IT. I joined TORAW and have been an early voice among my peers spreading the word - mostly thanks to this site.

Also, monster tech forum became a great place to get motivated to stay current and become paranoid. With every post about what is happeneing out there, I became more and more determined to continue staying focused on hands on tech. I passed my SCNA and passed 3/7 MSCE tests so far.

Just want to say thanks to all the lurkers out there that have been posting positive helpful messages to the rest of us. And to all, especially the unemployed - keep the faith!

- Rich

There was nothing even remotely useful about these forums unless you are congenitally brain damaged or irretrievably stupid as anyone with even the merest modicum of intelligence could search the internet and find what they needed to know on their own without ever stopping here.

Problem is, if you cut-out riff-raff stuff, you end up w/nothing. It can also be said that it takes a critical mass of riff-raff to bring in a few good posts.

It hurts this occupation more than any other because we don't compete on business domain skills, we compete on technical skills. You can't import business domain, but you can import math, science, tech. This is why Americans aren't stupid when they choose to avoid these fields.

Math (teachers) seems hot right now, so I'll leave that one out of the mix.

This sums up the snide, petty, whining, complaining, socialist-communist, jack perfectly.

He leeches off Monsters free service for months/years, and then spits on them and promises to dance on their grave on his way out. Perfect exit for this worthless sack of sh*t, his incesent whining, blaming and repeated demonstration of his malcontent did no-one any favors.

IT workers have run into trouble not because of personal
flaws but because our jobs have been stolen. The
stealers are fine citizens who are experts in the way
the world works -- the rest of us complainers. In the
world view of the far right it's complaining not stealing
that the ultimate vice. A more accurate analysis of
the far right would actually point to thinking as the
ultimate vice.

Quite true.

But wait. The far right *don't have* to think at all. No. They've got Rush and Hannity to do their thinking for them. Easy. Even better than that they've got Condi and Ridge to keep them safe and warm at night, AshKKKroft to keep the lefties under control, the NRA and Charlton Heston to guarantee their assault rifle entitlements, Rumy to dice those naughty Arabs (although it seems those naughty Arabs are dicing us - in Iraq anyway), and Fox News Channel as their source of education and entertainment.

Ah, the right have got it made. All laid on for them. Explains a lot really..............they'd be a joke if they weren't f*cking it up so badly.

For the rest of you - good riddance. Almost all of you are getting just what you deserve in the johb market for your the-world-owes-me-a-living-because-I-went-to-school attidudes you exhibit here. Especially those of you who blame your situation for the attitude instead of vice versa. You folks can blame everybody from a hindu shoeshine boy all the way up to the president of the United Sates, but you can't look within yourself to discover the REAL reason for youir current situation.