OMG........What next ?

I think it is cute. If I were a collector of Elvis or Barbie I would buy it. Would buy it for my mom if she were still alive cause she loved Elvis.

 

Sarah Palin is the one running for Vice President with Presidential Candiate John McCain

My mother in law loves anything elvis!

Kodakchromer, now known as LoriF

that set is not for kids.. its gear for the adult collector.... If I still collected Barbie.. I would buy this set, but I have since moved on from Barbie onto better looking dolls.

I gotta say, that posts like this are why I rarely peek over here onto this group, anymore.  The Anti-WalMart posts that go on here drive me nuts.  Am I the only one who enjoys my job?  Is glad I work for such a huge retailer, that I actually have job security when others in more specialized fields around in my community are losing their jobs? 

 

Don't get me wrong, I understand ranting about some of the things your store may have done to you, that isn't fair... or needing to vent over something that happened at work; those are some of the reasons I joined this group.

 

But this post sounds like a big ol' Anti-WalMart, WalMart is the great white devil, propoganda that honestly, I'm sick of seeing. 

 

WalMart isn't to blame for the recession, and ISN'T TO BLAME FOR WHAT PEOPLE CHOOSE TO SPEND THEIR MONEY ON.  This drives me nuts!  So, what, WalMart is now suppose to DECIDE -FOR- US what we should, and shouldn't spend our money on?!  WalMart should only stock what WalMart deems apropriate for an economy in a recession?!  Doesn't that GIVE/HAND OVER all power the consumer has?! Saying that WalMart shouldn't stock such and such, is the exact contradiction of what it seems like a lot of people in this group have been saying; that WalMart has too much control over what people do with their lives.. and that because of WalMart's "awesome power," WalMart is destroying the world. 

 

Wake up.  WalMart isn't destroying anything, WalMart is keeping this economy from dumping us all into a place where we can't even afford the necessities.  SO WHAT if a collector of Barbies wants a $60 Elvis doll... SO WHAT?  It hurts no one, and if they have the money to buy it- DOESN'T THAT MEAN THAT THIS RECESSION ISN'T AS BAD AS EVERYONE IS TRYING TO DOOM AND GLOOM THEIR WAY INTO BELIEVING?!  If people can BUY this stuff, as a hobby, then people have money to buy other things. 

 

Yes, I'm not pro-union, as this group seems to be... and I'm sure I'm going to either get booted from this group after this post, or I'll have a lot of you jumping down my throat.. but this post is the last straw for me in keeping my silence about how frustrated I am with this group.  And I honestly don't care if I get hate mail, or booted off the group, because I think blaming WalMart for everything wrong in this world is taking things way too far, and not taking responsiblity for our own actions.. and if that's what this group is about, I'd rather be on other groups who would rather support ME as an employee of WalMart, instead of bashing my employer for WHAT THEY SELL- AND WHAT CONSUMERS ARE BUYING.

 

Frankly, its none of my business what people buy at WalMart.  I think its stupid to spend $60 on a doll, but I'm also a guy and I don't have that kind of money to spend on a hobby.  I've got other things to worry about, and I should hope other people on this group would have better things to worry about.. more important things to worry about, instead of the DOLLS sold at WalMart. 

 

 

So if you have had disgruntled managers on this group deleting posts, or people from the group; maybe this Anti-WalMart retoric is the cause, or maybe how a lot of people may decide to post as an argument to my post is the cause.  And before anyone tries to point a finger at me, because I would be a great scapegoat at this point; I'm not a manager, and have never been a manager of this group.. and I don't come here often enough to try and figure out a way to disrupt this group, and haven't the time or desire to even try.  I have enjoyed being on this group at times, there is a lot of information that has been great to find on here, and to give to other employees who need it.  But posts like this are so bias, and ridiculous that I can't just take the survey that you guys posted up months ago, quietly vote for what I feel needed improvement; only to see nothing change. 

 

My wife didn't feel welcome here, simply because she spoke her mind.  And if you guys want to make me feel the same, be my guest.. this place isn't worth my time if I'm not going to get the employee support I had hoped to find.  You may hate WalMart.  And if you hate your job so much at any place, maybe you shouldn't work there.  But there are people in this world, and that have been on this group, that actually enjoy working at walmart, and don't see walmart as a great, manipulative, fat cat evil. 

I'm with you Labratio, the customer is the one that matters, if they want to buy it then Walmart should sell it a make a buck or 2. I am also anti-union. They have ruined the auto industry and steel mills and now are after retail to leech off of the workers. I usually just check in on the general message board and never see the home page but seeing the 3 Democrats that want to make Walmart workers join unions by doing away with secret ballots sure looks anti-Walmart to me. 16 years at Walmart and I've always been treated fairly and compensated for my job with bonuses, yearly pay increases and now 4 weeks vacation every year. Try to find another retailer that is better then Walmart. How's their sales? Will they be around in a few years or another company that fades away. In these tough times I'm glad i work at Walmart and get good hours and decent pay.

Lebratio and Mike,

I no longer work for Walmart...BUT I will fight to the death your right to love your job and your right to say how much you respect Walmart as an Employer!

I, and I do not feel any other member of this site, feels as if they and you both should not share your feelings.

I say KUDOS to you both. And I am very happy to see some fellow humans that are happy in their lives.

I will say however, that I was a union member for 15 years before I worked for Walmart. I retired, then decided that I wanted a part time job and tried Walmart.

It was not for me. I am not a Walmart type of gal who I feel can check my rights at the door to have a job.

Just a friendly, difference of oppinion ok guys?

No hard feeling intended...

But I do feel Walmart forever changed America by selling out to China and outsourcing there after many, many years of MADE IN AMERICA-by SAM WALTON....

Now,  boys if you want to tell me I am wrong in my opinion, well hell, I am an educated women and my feelings won't be hurt at all.

I am, after all, just shaking things up a bit and stating MY point of view. Wouldn't you defnd my right to do so?

Lori

Lori,

 

I would absolutely defend your right to have your opinion.  That was never something I put in my previous posts, I believe everyone has the right to say what they want, to feel the way they want to feel. 

 

Frankly though, this group has been so anti-walmart as of late, its make me almost AFRAID to post (not physically afraid, but getting the sense that I'd be ripped limb from limb verbally, which I am not afraid of.. but that's not the reason I signed up here... and it wasn't the reason my wife sign up here either, but she got torn apart and was berated for her pro-customer opinion so badly that she left the group one night in tears.. now, that hasn't made me happy about the people in this group, granted.. but I had hopes that that was just isolated and my wife needed thicker skin). 

 

But on the welcome page for this group it says its for those employees to speak the negative AND the positive, and for customers as well.  Yet, my wife felt she had to defend the customers.. and now the anti-walmart sentiment is taking over the group so heavily, that I'd really like to know if that's the purpose of the group.. to be totally anti-walmart (save for a few posts), and not be a group supporting the people working for walmart.  Maybe my post was to remind people.. that it didn't seem like the intention of this group was to be Anti-WalMart.  But I guess glancing around at the "sister" sites.. maybe it is, and I just found myself in a vipers nest of what at first glance had seemed to be a place where I could find support. 

 

And just to point out, Lori.. WalMart wasn't the first retailer to "sell out" to China.  Things once made entirely in the US, are now generally made elsewhere in the world.. and not just China, WalMart didn't start that.  WalMart struggled to keep everything in the US as long as it could, but with other retailers "selling out" and having their costs cut by doing so, how could WalMart expect to stay in business?  There were other "Made in America" stores that went out of business.. blame our government for making it hard to keep things made here, and for stores to stay in business.  But I don't think its very logical to blame WalMart for it.   

 

And as for unions, if you want to know my real opinion about them.. since you happily let me know how pro-union you are, I agree with Mike. But, let me shake things up a bit.. a lot of unions through history have been run by the mob, and there is a reason for that.  A lot of unions, in my and my wife's experiences are a bunch of bullies who take money from their members, and a good majority of the time don't even listen to their union members.  Case in point being the local grocery store unions out here in California, back in 2003-2004; the members of the union weren't given the paperwork on the offers that the stores were making, they were TOLD by the reps. for the union what it was.  They were lied to, and a lot of union members went on local radio shows and claimed exactly that.  Some people couldn't survive the TWENTY WEEK strike, and those that crossed the picket lines, or the "scabs" who crossed the picket lines were VERBALLY, and PHYSICALLY assaulted.  Locally there was a poor disabled woman who was knocked out of her chair, and kicked by union members for going into the store to shop.  Same store, a "scab" who happened to be disabled too, was knocked to the ground.  This wasn't an isolated incidence. 

 

I'll give you certain unions have helped their workers, and are nessesary.. like the Train Unions.  But those don't tend to be the unions that you hear about abusing their power.  And maybe you only hear about the bad unions, and the bad union members causing problems from the media.  But those stories about the two disabled women didn't come out until months after the insidences happened.  And when my wife was a child her father's work was picketed by employees who wanted to unionize, and they scared the hell out of her by screaming and banging on the car she was in, having tacks thrown under the tires and being stuck in the middle of a riot of people.. who worked shoulder to shoulder with her father.  My wife, and her mother were innocent bystanders, and this was what the idea of a union did... what would have happened if the job had become a union job, on the days when there was a strike?  I'd hate to think.. so I don't like unions, and I didn't join this group because of its union ties.. I joined it because it was suppose to be a support group, not pro or anti union (there were sister sites for that, right?), but now it doesn't seem like that at all. 

 

So why not just call a spade, and spade... instead of holding up false pretenses, and simply post on the main page of the group what this place is really all about; its pro-union, pro-democrat, pro-big brother government, anti-WalMart, and sometimes anti-customer.  And if you don't LIKE it, too bad.. because most of the posts are all about how evil WalMart is.

 

But then, I guess this is just my difference in opinion.  No hard feelings. 

 

And I honestly don't feel as if I've checked my rights at the door, I was hired to do a job.. I do it, and get paid for it.  I don't ask or need anything else, but I also get something a lot of employers are hard pressed to give anymore, benefits and bonuses.  And I didn't even have to bully WalMart for that stuff.  Sure, sometimes I don't feel respected.. but that has more to do with PEOPLE not respecting other PEOPLE, than it has to do with the company as a whole.  Frankly, I feel respected by Corporate WalMart, and I'm proud when they make money hand over fist.. because it shows that my fellow employees work damn hard, and keep the company afloat... and that we have a good board of directors who know how to run the company.  But I thank you for being so supportive of my right to say that here.. I don't feel that from other members, but I never expected to.

 Labratio,

 

I think you took this to the extreem.We have had many topics in the past,where we talked about unions.The majority of us are not pro union.We have also given Walmart good words in many areas.If you read a resent topic(Do you still work for Walmart),you will read that most of us are long term associates who don't have any plans on leaving the company.I try to give both sides of Walmart,like now when full time associates are getting cut to 16 hours.We are greatfull to have a job but why hire part timers to work the hours you took from us?

Sorry the post was All members please read.Not do you still work for walmart.

I agree with you Lab and Lori.  I do love working for Walmart and will retire or die there, probably die as I cannot comprehend life without work.  This site is not half as anti-Walmart as it used to be, it has became  milder, I think. 

 

My feelings have always been if someone hates their job that bad, they just need to quit, and find something more agreeable with them.  Easier said than done in most cases, I personally could NEVER find a job in this area that pays as well with great benefits, even the Sheriff's Department starts out lower than I make. 

 

I guess it is a love/hate relationship basically.

 

I am a lifer.

 

 

oh, back to the purpose of this topic.  I think the Elvis doll will go over well, there are hundreds of thousands of Elvis collectors out there, and if I were one..........I would go for this one, it is a great collector's piece and a pretty reasonable price.

Wow, I didn't realize I came across as pro-union, but thanks for pointing that out to me!

Actually I was born and live in L.A/Riverside County so I know very well those stories of which you speak. Sorry to say the local grocery union is a sham with a bunch of money grubbers running things. In the early 80's my hubby was a non union job foreman in the construction industry and we had our company trucks burned and employees beat up by union workers who tried to get us to join them, we held out and stayed non-union.
I was lucky enough to eventualy go to work for my local school district here and I was very active in that "home grown union". So I am PRO/CON unions I guess!

Thank you for responding Labratio and everyone. Sorry I didn't mean to hijack this thread. I just dispise when someone feels like they aren't being heard and I am a natural fixer and feather unruffler as people say about me.

I also think I might mosy on down to Walmart today and get me a huge punkin' to carve up for all hallows eve! Lol!

Love to have more convos like this, give and take......and Labratio, tell your lovely wife I am truly sorry that she felt like she was not welcome here. That truly makes me sad.......