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General : Spies Will Tap Into All Emails And Calls
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From: MSN Nicknametin-lizzy  (Original Message)Sent: 10/6/2008 7:59 PM
Daily Express
 
Monday 6th October 2008
 

SPIES WILL TAP INTO ALL EMAILS AND CALLS

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LISTENING IN: Calls, texts and emails will be monitored at GCHQ

Monday October 6,2008

By Macer Hall Political Editor

ALL telephone calls, emails and text messages in Britain will be monitored under new Government snooping plans.

A £12billion identity database at the GCHQ spy centre could even log every website visited by computer users nationwide.</[>


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Hundreds of bugging probes will be installed in the telephone system and computer networks to monitor communications traffic.</[>


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GCHQ has already been handed £1billion of taxpayers�?cash to begin developing the database.</[>


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After the top-secret plans were leaked yesterday critics accused the Government of stalking the public. Michael Parker of anti-identity card group No2ID said: “It is a shocking intrusion into privacy. This is stalking. If an individual carried out this sort of snooping, it would be a crime.�?lt;/[>


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Shadow Home Secretary Dominic Grieve said the proposal marked “a substantial shift in the powers of the state to obtain information on individuals�? And after a series of embarrassing security blunders including the loss of child benefit records for every family in the country, he questioned Whitehall’s competence to keep such data. He said: “Given the Government’s poor record on protecting data and seeing how significant an increase in power this would be, we need to have a national debate and the Government would have to justify its need.�?lt;/[>


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The plan for the biggest surveillance system in British history is being spearheaded by GCHQ director Sir David Pepper.</[>

 

It is currently classified as top secret and is being developed under the title: Interception Modernisation Programme.</[>


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The aim is to set up a “live tap�?on every electronic communication in the country. At present, security service MI5 carries out limited monitoring of email exchanges and internet use.</[>


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Ministers have been told that the latest computer technology lays the grounds of a massive expansion of monitoring.</[>


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The database is likely to be centred at GCHQ’s famous “doughnut�?shaped spy centre in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire.</[>


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Further details will be released when the Government’s legislative programme is announced in the Queen’s Speech in December.</[>


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The plan is even more ambitious than the Identity Cards scheme being gradually introduced by the Government at a cost of £5billion. While a final decision has yet to be taken, ministers are understood to have agreed to the move “in principle�?</[>


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Supporters of the scheme claim it will help combat terrorism, computer fraud and internet-based paedophile rings.</[>


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Yet critics point out the amount of information stored would be vast. Last year 57 billion text messages were sent in Britain, the equivalent of 1,800 every second. Around three billion emails are sent every day, equal to 35,000 every second.</[>


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Michael Parker of No2ID said: “This database could have no practical use at all. It would be so big, it would be impossible to find anything useful.�?lt;/[>


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Home Office insiders confirmed the plan was being discussed, although they disputed the reported £12billion price tag.</[>


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A Home Office spokeswoman said police and intelligence agencies can already get information on phone calls from telephone companies. She said: “Develop-ments in technology mean that this capacity needs to be updated. Ministers and officials are considering how best to do this.�?lt;/[>


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But the plan risks provoking a clash between ministers and Information Commissioner Richard Thomas, the Whitehall watchdog on data and privacy issues. A spokesman said: “The commissioner warned that it is likely that such a scheme would be a step too far for the British way of life. Proposals that threaten such intrusion into people’s lives must be properly debated.�?lt;/[>


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A poll by data security firm GB Group last night found that only the gambling industry was trusted less by the general public than the Government to look after private records.</[>



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From: MSN NicknameMSNNi©kNameSent: 10/10/2008 11:21 AM
There's a theory that says a group called the "Illuminati" are dictating what happens in the world.. I don't personally believe that theory, but each to their own
 
It'd be nice to live in a future where money is outmoded, like on Star Trek, and people just contribute to society without greed, but I can't help but think if money was taken out of the system tomorrow and everyone could get whatever they wanted for free, no-one would be bothering to turn up for work and keeping the world going.. is that good or bad?.. dunno

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From: MSN NicknameBosomcuddle1Sent: 10/11/2008 4:39 AM
Sounds bloody good to me........

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From: MSN Nickname♠اMõ�?/nobr>Sent: 10/11/2008 12:03 PM
If 'syrup of figs' manufacturers were the only ones who carried on working they would keep the world going!

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From: MSN NicknameAgouza1Sent: 10/11/2008 12:47 PM
I have just returned from Vodaphone office as I had to buy a new sim card, this is my private line in my own name and a pay as you go deal.   I had to show my passport and a letter from the Saudi Embassy just to get the new card which cost £1.  No phones are issued here without i.d  nor can you get satellitte t.v without i.d.
All telephones calls are monitored to a certain extent with key words etc, I know this for a fact.  The flaw is that as there are so many phones etc they have days for certain areas and listen in on those days only.  All this is done in the name of fighting terrorist and I for one have no problem with it. 
 

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From: MSN NicknameMSNNi©kNameSent: 10/11/2008 3:05 PM
In the next few years there is a technology coming along called the "fabricator"
 
It's like that thing off Star Trek, where something makes you a cup of coffee or a 3 course meal.. but it goes further.. it will be able to make just about anything (ie - it could make a copy of itself if there are upgrades)
 
If that comes along (as well as an improved way of generating energy) then yeah.. I think it'd be a plus, as then we might be in a position where money would no longer be needed.. at the moment though, we rely on supermarkets and shops to provide us with food.. if money was taken out of the equation tomorrow, do you think all those shop workers would bother to turn up to do any work?, or delivery drivers bother travelling miles to deliver food?.. maybe completely selfless ones would, but it's not in generally the nature of the human to give up so much for nothing, while other people are out there enjoying themselves doing nothing.. lol
 
I think that's where money comes in.. until technology can get us to a place where it might not be a factor anymore

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From: MSN NicknamethailandtonySent: 10/12/2008 3:37 AM
I agree with bosomcuddle. Get hold of a copy of  'zeitgeist', and before anyone starts shouting 'conspiracy theory' this is 'conspiracy FACT'!
We are being LIED to by authority and have been for a long time.
Time to wake up folks.
 

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From: MSN NicknameAsha2317Sent: 10/12/2008 9:27 AM
There has always been the theory that there are about 10 people who "rule " the world........... I remember as a teenager being told by an Uncle who worked for the so called Secret Service, didnt pay much heed to it at the time, but did wonder if it was secret why he was saying lol. I also remember watching tomorrows world as a child, and thinking all the things they showed would be "handy" when I was older...the re runs showed me that 90% of what was shown never happened...

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From: MSN Nickname♠اMõ�?/nobr>Sent: 10/12/2008 11:19 AM
It is all true and I am actually head of it all so there.

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From: MSN NicknameAsha2317Sent: 10/12/2008 1:37 PM
So where?? nod nod, wink wink

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From: MSN Nickname♠اMõ�?/nobr>Sent: 10/12/2008 2:41 PM
Everywhere! I am omnipresent!

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From: MSN NicknameMSNNi©kNameSent: 10/12/2008 7:28 PM
Osmo is Omnipresent, and The Og is Omnipitent.. don't ya know

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From: MSN NicknameVirginianTigerSent: 10/14/2008 12:05 PM
If you are a good citizen what are you affraid of ?

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From: MSN Nickname♠اMõ�?/nobr>Sent: 10/14/2008 12:13 PM
1984

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From: MSN Nicknametriciad61ukSent: 10/14/2008 12:38 PM
Agree !!

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From: MSN NicknameVirginianTigerSent: 10/15/2008 10:04 PM
Next thing on Mr Browns list you will need a passport and Photo I D plus a Drivers License to get into the Zoo, and if you are taking in a steak to feed a Tiger that will be checked for quality.
Manchester United Fans will be accepted to be fed to the Lions (poor Fecking Lions will all get sick).
Osmo will be on stand by to help Zoo Vet.

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