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From: MSN Nickname●●___кιssмчмaиoℓos°  (Original Message)Sent: 5/25/2008 5:57 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameLivingLegendV</NOBR>  (Original Message) Sent: 3/13/2006 3:14 PM
 
If you don't have a good sense of humor, go bye bye!
 
 
The following is a 10-Time Bud World Champions Co-Production...
 

@school..Valek(542-3841)...there's no time to be ridiculous and piss into the wind, unless you wanted to. says:

<DIR>

ty...so best match of the ppv bud title match or budvision definitely..those two lived up to the hype

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// says:

<DIR>

Oh yeah, for sure

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// says:

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I mean the franchise? that stood no chance

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@school..Valek(542-3841)...there's no time to be ridiculous and piss into the wind, unless you wanted to. says:

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i know

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// says:

<DIR>

treasure hunt? that was the bathroom break match

</DIR>

@school..Valek(542-3841)...there's no time to be ridiculous and piss into the wind, unless you wanted to. says:

<DIR>

like shit we tried but no go they were too much

</DIR>

// says:

<DIR>

Oh ya

</DIR>

@school..Valek(542-3841)...there's no time to be ridiculous and piss into the wind, unless you wanted to. says:

<DIR>

i'll have to take some lessons from them, i didn't know that not posting makes the match better

</DIR>

// says:

<DIR>

Who woulda thought!

</DIR>

@school..Valek(542-3841)...there's no time to be ridiculous and piss into the wind, unless you wanted to. says:

<DIR>

makes the 2006 WTD main event look like a dogs butt

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// says:

<DIR>

we should so post this

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@school..Valek(542-3841)...there's no time to be ridiculous and piss into the wind, unless you wanted to. says:

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do it

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// says:

<DIR>

yep, the stories of that main event overshined it

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// says:

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stories of the BoreMania main event i mean

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@school..Valek(542-3841)...there's no time to be ridiculous and piss into the wind, unless you wanted to. says:

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honestly joe getting kidnapped was great it prevented syck from doing anything but it evolved so well that i could've never expected that great of a match

</DIR>

@school..Valek(542-3841)...there's no time to be ridiculous and piss into the wind, unless you wanted to. says:

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and the sudden appearance by nick...dear god it was great

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// says:

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I was shocked he cut a couple of his fingers off

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// says:

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Then again I understand it totally, Kreed stopped at two because Syck didn't go at him that much, so Syck knew if he cut more promos, Joe would eventually get killed

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// says:

<DIR>

So very smart thinking

</DIR>

@school..Valek(542-3841)...there's no time to be ridiculous and piss into the wind, unless you wanted to. says:

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exactly, but you know i never liked joe..i would've rathered he died and the match would've gotten even more intense

</DIR>

// says:

<DIR>

I was hoping Syck woulda attempted to go for Abel

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// says:

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Or at least say it wasn't Joe, or RP'd as Joe and had him escape lol

</DIR>

@school..Valek(542-3841)...there's no time to be ridiculous and piss into the wind, unless you wanted to. says:

<DIR>

lmao..that would've be great...like something i would've done. so you know it wouldn't have worked very well for the match. cause obviously he knows more about this a=than i do

</DIR>

@school..Valek(542-3841)...there's no time to be ridiculous and piss into the wind, unless you wanted to. says:

<DIR>

anyways...

</DIR>

// No X and O's, tex calicodes. Aim at your chest nigga. says:

<DIR>

I didn't want to admit it, but i can't hide the truth of why i really left

</DIR>

// No X and O's, tex calicodes. Aim at your chest nigga. says:

<DIR>

i just can't compete with their talent

</DIR>

@school..Valek(542-3841)...there's no time to be ridiculous and piss into the wind, unless you wanted to. says:

<DIR>

its ok man, i was thinking of doing the same things. But really i think i'll be better off if i can stay away and pretend to own this place and be happy

</DIR>

// No X and O's, tex calicodes. Aim at your chest nigga. says:

<DIR>

god bless AM status!

</DIR>

@school..Valek(542-3841)...there's no time to be ridiculous and piss into the wind, unless you wanted to. says:

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definitely

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From: MSN Nickname●●___кιssмчмaиoℓos°Sent: 5/25/2008 5:57 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameÑòváCåînË</NOBR> Sent: 3/13/2006 2:27 PM

How dare you have a conversation and not mention the reasons for leaving as being that I am fucking cool. 

This is why I hate you both, well that and I am perpetually bitter.


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From: MSN Nickname●●___кιssмчмaиoℓos°Sent: 5/25/2008 5:58 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN Nickname-нΙѕғΙяэғ∫үғяφмнз∫�?</NOBR> Sent: 3/13/2006 2:55 PM
Had something funny been said, I'm sure I would have laughed.
 
Ernie and Kreed had their reasons for wokring the match the way they did, similar to what you did, Nick, by handing Rebecca the title 2006W2D.
 
You really need to get over the bullshit and get over Syck beating your girlfriend, it's becoming quite tiresome and if he is as overrated as you've constantly said to anyone who would listen, then why is his name forever coming out of your mouth and written into most of your RPs?  Overrated my ass!  You're just a hater! 
 
He's had his run, he's done his time, and he's will always be a damn good RPer,  not always out for the gold but to have fun...having worked and owned PWT at one time, worked with NED and those in W2K and now working and playing around in BUD, he's been known by the best and has worked with the best in our circle for years. 
 
I'm tired of you constantly riding him and talking shit...you aren't doing anything but making yourself look like a sore loser.  You come in after he's already established himself as Legend and has now chosen to have fun and be creative with his pieces and you and others make him out to be a joke. Why?  Because he doesn't RP like you?  Whatever...remember what you told me when you faced him at MOD?  You weren't going to run with his Comic Book theme...and what happened?  You ran with it.  When we couldn't find a judge, I asked you if you were ok with me judging, you said yes, if there was no one else...and there wasn't.  When the judging went up and he was chosen as the winner...what did you do?  You whined and threatened to leave...saying you told Mel that if you lost you would be retiring from BUD.  *rolls eyes*  Whatever...you lost fair and square, my reasons were well explained and thought out.  I made valid points but nope, you wanted to find someone who would vote for you and I did, I overturned the ruling, for many reasons, must just because of me voting.
 
What did Rebecca do when she faced off against Brian Corven and Tim was a judge...she bitched...and what happened, again, I turned the ruling because of Tim.
 
See a pattern?
 
I know you'll probably come back at me with some condecsending reply, saying that I've read too much into your conversation with Tim, that I'm overreacting, or that I'm being dramatic...but what I am is annoyed...annoyed and tired of hearing the same thing over and over again from you.  GET OVER IT.
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameLivingLegendV</NOBR> Sent: 3/13/2006 3:03 PM

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From: <NOBR>MSN Nickname-нΙѕғΙяэғ∫үғяφмнз∫�?</NOBR> Sent: 3/13/2006 3:03 PM
I will talk to you about the status change when I get home if you still have me on your list.  I changed it for the simple fact that I'm a bit upset with what I've been hearing about you lately.

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From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameLivingLegendV</NOBR> Sent: 3/13/2006 3:20 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameÇöŕńēŕĕďĂńĩmâŀ-ΜĀŤĽÖÇĶ</NOBR> Sent: 3/13/2006 3:06 PM
LOL....funny shit Nick. Really. Delving into what Roxy said for a minute. See...everyone and their dog knows that what happened at Ultimate War was a screwjob. You go anywhere, W2K, PWT, and they'll agree it was. He's not bitching or whining about it. Hell they didn't at all. Fact is though, someone got screwed and it wasn't the asshole.
 
You are reading into that conversation too much there Roxy. They were having a laugh at how "good" the Heavyweight Title match was. You know, after all this hype and Syck making himself out to be such a good champion he does jack shit all for the event. Nice one. Maybe he realized he was gonna lose to Kreed anyway? Probably. If I was facing Kreed I wouldn't waste my time either. LOL.
 
Oh, and I don't remember Nick whining when MOD went up. If I remember correctly he had said he'd leave if he lost MOD a while before then. I believe some OTHER people had problems with that one. But hey, it's MOD. There's always controversy. *coughRuckusgettingMODwithoutdoingadamnthingcough*
 
Nick's a good buddy of mine and I respect him, and I don't like to see him being talked down to like that. Especially by someone else who was supposed to be his friend. So take a deep breath Roxy, and just cool down.
 
Oh, and I can say what I want. What ya gonna do? Kick me out?  

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From: MSN Nickname●●___кιssмчмaиoℓos°Sent: 5/25/2008 5:59 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN Nickname-нΙѕғΙяэғ∫үғяφмнз∫�?</NOBR> Sent: 3/13/2006 3:38 PM
If you think it was a screw job...then why didn't you offer to judge the match when nothing would have happened and nothing would have been said.  Syck has never been given anything in BUD because he was my boyfriend, hence why I talked him into allowing another judge judge the match, and I made sure that judges at UW were up on their Ps and Qs so that there wasn't any bullshit...but no matter what people do, you can't please everyone and I've tried to make all the judging fair and square...3 judges, full reasons...and what else can be done?  Having 5? Just me? just Nick? just Tim? No one wants the responsibility but they are quick to damn it.  Doesn't everyone have a problem when they lose?  They are quick to bitch but not quick to help the problem...whatever...if you have a problem with how the judging goes, than become a judge only while on your LOA...and see if it's any better.
 
Syck did a great job against Rebecca Rancid as did she, no one said she sucked...but there were a few things that one judge sees that another sees differently hence the multiple judges.
 
And Matlock...I wasn't coming at Nick on a personal level, this was busines...I was talking to him as the owner of BUD.  Had someone constantly talked shit to you, I would address him as well, but since Ernie doesn't give a shit about what Nick says, I decided to say something because enough is enough.
 
Nick may not have "whined" persae, but he and talked about it to one and all, I was told by at least 12 different people.  And I've said before....Ernie and Kreed worked this one out due to Syck's retirement...if you can't understand that...well that's on you.  Would you want to retire against just anyone?  No...you would RP against someone you were comfortable retiring to.
 
LMAO....and do you see what you're doing with the whole controversy thing...
 
You are STILL talking about the Ruckus thing even after 3 years.  LOL  I guess I do my job well since you're still talking about it.  Just like everyone talks about Bret Hart and Vince McMahon.  The two people that don't talk about it constantly are Sparrow and Mark Cain...the two that should be...funny how it's everyone else.

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From: <NOBR>MSN Nickname-нΙѕғΙяэғ∫үғяφмнз∫�?</NOBR> Sent: 3/13/2006 3:42 PM
And BTW, even though I respect Ned and Taylor, W2K and PWT have no barring over our results...just thought I'd throw that out there, just in case you didn't know..

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From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameLivingLegendV</NOBR> Sent: 3/13/2006 4:32 PM
 
If Ernie was annoyed or cared, he would have said something. Since you did instead, I'll fight fire with fire... for now {cause playing 24:The Game > replying here, lol}.
 
 
Hey Roxy *waves* yeah.. hi. Rememeber me? *wink wink* I see that even after i've left BUD my name has been taken both in and out of character. Now I know in character is different because.. yeah i've had a history here and people might want to mention it because their characters and mine have some past. Like take Mat Collins for instance. But then we have Syck saying I left BUD because I got 'anally raped'. And I kinda took that as out of character. Really I thought me and Ernie were friends and then in the roleplays he mentions me dating Mr. Encyclopedia? [which is what Andrew calls Nick in OOC messages.] So wow.. I was shocked as to why he's so pissed at me and everything. Yet I managed to say oh well and we decided shake hands after the match. But then you had stuff in your headline about me. And that was harsh and stuff. And Nick told me that you were wondering why I hated you.
 
See.. thing is. I don't like when people discuss me behind my back because you don't know the real deal. I never hated you then and I don't hate you now. I was just mad because if you're going to have headline fights with Nick.. don't bring me into it. So I'll admit. I was kinda mad at you. And then Ernie brought in personal stuff into roleplays so I thought hey. I am who I am. I don't sit back and let other people take a front seat in what I believe in so I clearly stood up for myself and voiced my opinion. What? You think i'm naive? Psh. So if you thought you could mess with me.. you've got the wrong girl, babe. I could see through the hostility in the results when one judge mentioned me losing the match from the very start. But oh well.. I did all I could. I battled screw job after screw job and I just felt like I was being thrown on the floor as a doormat for others in the end so I left. I'm sorry if I complained about the screw jobs. You see.. I don't play those kind of games. As I've made it clear time and again. I'm not one to just let wrong be done and then be gone. I seek justice and I damn well find it because i'm determined to get the truth out.
 
About Nick 'handing' the title to me. Um.. how is that so? Nick had 11k and I had 10 k. Both of them were excellent in quality as I recall.  The deadline was simply waivered due to him not being able finish before it. The match was judged and they said I won. So if Syck took it upon himself to mention that time and again in the match as a way of getting to me personally.. then thank you Ernie. You made your point but it never quite worked against me.
 
I'm sorry Roxy if you thought we were friends.. because you barely ever made small talk with me unless it had to do with BUD. As far as Nick is concerned. I was shocked at the way you just started trashing him and took his status away from him over one small joke. I've been in the fed for 1 year + 5 months and i've seen that whenever you have difficulty with the ppv cards and such he takes things into his own hands and deals with them. Yet he gets trashed for his hard work or barely ever gets recognition for the things he does. I'm sorry I just couldn't bare to see you try and insult him after all he has done for BUD. You make it seem like you never needed his help. How do you think he feels now? But thanks for showing your true colors. I guess when people are mad it really brings the truth out. It's like you can see right through them. Sorry you feel that way but I just thought you were in the wrong for just going at him like he meant nothing after all those times he helped out.
 
And he did tell me he was going to retire if he lost MOD. Did he complain at all after he lost to Andrew Unerwood right before MOD? No.. I don't see people mentioning that. 'Oh Nick always complains when he loses a match'. Don't give me that. It ain't working.
 
I'm sorry if I came off as harsh to you. I was just looking at your post and I found no justice at all in it. You just came off as mean to Nick and I didn't think it was fair. But oh well.. Like you had said once in your headline. All is fair in love and warrrr. So now I don't get why you're crying over a little joke. Good bye Roxy. Have a wonderful day. Say Hi to Ernie for me. And remember Good always prevails over evil.
 
Mel.

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From: MSN Nickname●●___кιssмчмaиoℓos°Sent: 5/25/2008 6:00 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN Nickname-нΙѕғΙяэғ∫үғяφмнз∫�?</NOBR> Sent: 3/13/2006 6:40 PM
There is no fighting fire with fire Nick...I'm not fighting you...I was telling you to let it go and get over it.  Enough is Enough.
 
I'm sorry, what fed do you look at, I'm always giving Nick his props!  ALWAYS!  Everyone thinks of him as Management because I always make sure to say NICK AND I will do whatever.  Nick has been here for me since he offered and I have never stated otherwise.  He's great help and I have never taken him for granted...when he says that he can't do something, I don't push the issue because, like me, he's extremely busy. 
 
He's been trashing Ernie to and fro since he beat you and I have kept my mouth shut because it was none of my business but that thread up there was it for me.  Ernie is my best friend and there is no way that I'm going to sit there and just let it keep going.  And me trashing Nick, puhlease, what I said might have been harsh but it needed to be said and it wasn't trashing to no degree.
 
Also, I never spoke about you behind your back, how many posts did I leave on the board wanting to talk to you...you never replied.  I even tried to talk to you on messenger a few times and you never replied or you would reply with "I gotta go."  I finally spoke to Nick and in a roundabout way, he told me why.  Had it been you and Ernie going back and forth with the screen names that night, I would have stayed out but since Nick joined in, why couldn't I?  If they hurt your feeling, I'm sorry, I didn't mean for them to bother you, I was just doing what Nick was doing to Ernie.
 
There were so many times that I tried to push you, hell since October, I wanted to push you for the Heavyweight...so screw jobs?  I don't think so.  I had no hand in Ernie beating you, that was all on the judges....who are good judges and know what to look for.
 
With regards to your match against Nick, that Saturday night, I asked Nick if the 24 hour deadline was going to be waived, he said no but he was still going to RP. I asked him why he was handing you the belt and he gave me a reason but I don't remember.  Anyway, when the judges judged the match, they were under the assumption that he threw the match...I remember being shocked that he threw the match but what was done was done.  Then the next day someone linked me to the post he made stating that the deadline was waived...I was upset because the judges hadn't read his RP and then had to catch up.  He changed his mind at the last minute which threw everyone off.
 
Friends?  I never thought that we were best friend, but if anything, I thought you'd be able to come to me and tell me that you were pissed at me about something I did or said.  Like I said earlier, I attempted to talk to you and you didn't want to hear it...talk about true colors.  The true colors have been shown by you Mel by the way you acted toward me.  I thought you were a friend but obviously I was wrong....I had nothing but respect for you and everyone in BUD....but if you just talk to me cause I'm the owner and you NEED to talk to me, let me know that it's business.  When I get online, I don't spend hours on end online...the only people I talk to when I sign on are Nick, Andrew, Britt, Jan, Mal, Barb, Eric, Matt and Taylor...that's basically it....and aside from direct questions from Britt, Mal and Jan...random ones from other BUD members..and the non-fed stuff between me and Taylor...everyone else I talk to about BUD...so I'm sorry that I can't be nice to everyone and their brother...I just don't have time to build personal relationship with everyone.
 
No reason for what I said??  Nick has taken every shot at Ernie whenever given the chance:  this thread, the RPs, the recognition....I had enough...so I spoke up defending him...yeah, an RP is an RP, but this thread, the recognition...those aren't RPs.  Take your shot in the RPs as you both have done...but when it becomes this...I've had enough.
 
I've always considered Nick a friend...he helped me when no one else was able to and I hope to work this out tonight when I get home.  I took the status away because I need to talk to him about everything, and seeing my past with people who were pissed at me, I took the only precaution I could...because I know the anomosity is there and before anything, I need to talk to him about this whole thing with Syck and Me.
 
Oh and BTW, I wasn't crying, I never cry about net shit...I was annoyed...which is what I said.
 
Roxy
 
[no more replies...this will be handled by me and nick]

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From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameLivingLegendV</NOBR> Sent: 3/14/2006 12:36 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameLivingLegendV</NOBR> Sent: 3/14/2006 12:28 AM
Wasn't on when she did this and when I was doing other things as well...
 
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknamesэxγ×iи×яэđ</NOBR> Sent: 3/13/2006 7:25 PM
And tell me how exactly I acted towards you? I just felt you were being unjust to me in those headlines and you being the owner should know when to draw the line in taking shots at a member of their fed. There was no such headline fight between me and Ernie. It was just Nick mentioning something in his headline. I don't even think Ernie responded to that.. and I wasn't involved at all. I'm glad Ernie is your best friend and you stood up for him and everything.. but you dragged me into a fight of your own with Nick and got me involved when I wasn't even in the first place. Nick can make all the jokes he wants about Ernie and you can about him. I know he can defend himself and he doesn't need me backing him up all the time.. unless of course the envelope gets pushed and it's my turn to unleash hell on earth. I am my own person.. not just a rag doll hanging around for you to bash to try and get to Nick because I can bite back well too.. and when I do, I do it so hard that people start bitching, pissing and moaning afterwards. Nah.. I don't believe in an eye for an eye.. but rather a tank of spilled blood from a hundred dead bodies for an eye. I heard you said it was all done in fun [headline wars] But fun for you may not be fun for me.. but then again you proved my point. What Nick found funny you didn't.. and neither did I in that headline war ordeal. I never did anything to you at all. Sure I was mad.. but did I come bitching on the boards? No I kept quite about it. You mistake stuff I say to Ernie as if i'm saying it to you. But I hope you realize I look at both of you as different individuals and don't drag one of you into a fight i'm having with the other. I just left BUD and not under bad circumstances. I never came on the boards and cussed up a storm or anything for that matter. I just left peacefully.. but I see people have this sudden urge to mention me when they're mentioning evil and I have no fucking clue why i'm suddenly being brought back into things. Your fights with Nick should remain with him because knowing me.. getting me involved isn't really the brightest of ideas.

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From: MSN Nickname●●___кιssмчмaиoℓos°Sent: 5/25/2008 6:00 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameLivingLegendV</NOBR> Sent: 3/14/2006 12:32 AM
Here the breakdown...
 
The topic states if you get offended easily, don't read it. I knew it wouldn't keep anyone from reading but if you had enough, you would have deleted it and then talked to me about it rather than get all upset over what was meant to be a joke. Cause that's what it was, Tim and I were joking. But I guess I get to take the heat cause I posted it? Or you've been biting your tongue for way too long and have just been waiting for the opportune moment to come at me on the boards so everyone can see. Once again, I don't see why you couldn't have emailed me or IM'd me if you were that upset {you took a lot of shots at me so that proves you're pissed}.
 
Now let's take it from the top. Fine, Kreed and Syck had their reasons for working the match that way... only I didn't see them and I'm sure I'm not the only one. They had a SL match that wasn't even RP'd for, where's the fun in that? Where's the tension? Hell there wasn't even a backstory and this was BudMania! And no, it's not similar to what I did in Jan. We had a small story brewing for a couple months that we threw out a couple RP's and made mention of it in other RP's. We came to a head at W2D and waivered the 24 hour deadline and both put out some pretty decent RP's. At least I didn't just completely drop the ball {and I can name at least three other instances when I've been a champion and I didn't have much time or whatever and I STILL found a way to RP when others, including friends of mine, dropped the ball like Syck just did}.
 
Now as far as me getting over it? You should know I don't get over screw jobs easily. And I think you should check your facts.. yes, I have talked shit outside of RP's to anyone who would listen because when I feel something is unjust, that's just what I do. So in that term I can see why you'd be upset. But written into most my RP's? Are you rucktarded {term is credited to WallStreet}? I may have mentioned it once or twice and that's about it. How about you go check Syck's RP's because he name dropped the fuck out of 'Seifer'. So before you try and make me look bad, check your facts.
 
Yes, Syck has done a lot and I'm not taking that away from him. I'm sorry that shit had to go down that way that makes me feel he was undeserving to win the championship, but if he had a problem with what I said, why didn't he come foward? I don't bite. Hell, since you have a problem once again why didn't you say anything?
 
So now he's a legend who choses to have fun and be creative with his pieces. Hey that's fine and good but wasn't it YOU who mentioned you don't like storyline out the Heavyweight title when you thought I was throwing the match to Rancid? Yet when it's Syck, that's a whole different story, he's a legend, he's alowed to do that. THAT is why he's been made out to be a joke, because there are a lot of people who read those RP's, in and out of BUD and believe there was no way he beat her. Some of these people aren't my good friends or people I even talk to either.
 
I never told you I wasn't going to run with his comic book scene, I said that in an RP and then decided to do it because I wanted to have fun. Though I really don't get what that has to do with anything...
 
Though on the MOD PPV topic, yes, I did say I was ok with you judging. This was after you asked me over and over and over again. Why? Because I kept giving you indecisive answers. Why? Because obviously I was uncomfortable about you judging. I had a big match once that I lost under the SAME circumstances in regards to opponent/single judge. Not to mention it is known I've never been fond about having one judge. I finally agreed because no one would step up... though I don't blame them, there was a lot to judge but I also find it kind of lame. We managed to get 5 judges for Seifer/Nova and combined we did far more. Judges should have been decided before hand, as they should start being done now so people can read as they go up and take notes. Nonetheless...
 
I love how now you're trying to make ME look bad when all I did was keep my word. I told Mel prior {go ahead and ask Matt for confirmation} that if I lose I would be gone {and what's so bad with that? I practically did it all anyways}. We all know I don't like to lose and thus become very sore when I do {whether it's legit or not, which most aren't} it's called being very passionate and taking competition seriously, which I find no problem with that.
 
So when the judging went up and you choose him, what did I do? I wrote up a respectful message that said I was leaving, and THAT WAS IT. Never once did I mention how I really felt on the boards. I only told those I was close to, nothing wrong with that either.
 
Now what did YOU do when I posted that message? You threw a big ol' fit and turned yourself into the victim, saying you knew this would happen. And then without getting a reply for me or talking to me, you withdrew your vote because suddenly everyone was against you.
 
Guilty conscious anyone?
 
Yeah, you did have really valid points. Fuck, you're a good writer, that's not hard. I could give long detailed resonings on why someone beat someone else so long as they gave me enough to work with, doesn't matter who's is better, it's not that hard. Am I saying you did that persae? Nah, I believe you legitimately thought he won, but consider the source. For some reason I don't think a Seifer/Syck match with Mel as the sole judge would go over well.
 
Like I said, you were the one who said to disregard your vote and find more judges, not I. I never asked for it and I never complained about it. I was ready to swallow the bitter pill until I was being told that you guys {You guys cause I think Tim was apart of that and even said that your vote should stick} were going to get two more judges so of course I wasn't going to just say no when I felt there was a chance for justice to be served.
 
Though me leaving if I lost MOD wasn't the only part of it, it also had to do with the fact that I didn't have anytime at the moment to RP and thus even though it was overturned, I still took an LOA. Which is also why I wasn't able to fight in a match to determine the winner, not to mention I felt it was pointless seeing as the MOD Rp's should be judged, not something we did after.
 
But whatever, MOD was way back then and I really don't see why you decided to bring it up now seeing as it has nothing to do with this 'situation' even though I don't even see why this is a situation in the first place, least not on the boards.
 
Far as the match RR vs BC, I was under the impression Ernie handled that and you were away that weekend but I don't quite remember so no comment though that has nothing to do with me.
 
So because you took a joking/ribbing around with Tim to heart, you made me a member because you weren't sure how I'd react? Meh, I'll save my thoughts on this matter for when I talk to you on IM.
 
Now one of the main reasons you might be wondering why the jokes about Syck and this match. Well that's because people gave me heat for my match. So after I feel he was given the belt, he puts on a lously performance that makes mine and Mel's look like match of the year. You can see why I'd be annoyed and wished I'd of used my rematch clause to at least give Kreed and BUD a real main event. As far as retiring goes.. well I won't comment to much but I was under the impression that was at MOD, don't see why he wouldn't put up a better fight regardless at the second biggest PPV.
 
Yes, it was fire with fire. Ernie didn't care about it so he didn't say anything to me, you did. So when you came at me, Mel said something {cause she was brought into it, I didn't ask her to reply}. And I think I'm starting to repeat myself since I wrote the first part of it before 24 {over 2 hours ago}, but I don't get over what I consider a screw job easily to me and mine. Sorry if you disagree but that's how I feel about it.
 
As far as trashing Ernie, well I wasn't so much trashing him bar that situation because of how I felt it went down. I trashed Syck more than Ernie and unlike some, I can differentiate from character and out of character {Ie my opinion on the awards post}. It's not as if I hate him though, and I think he knows that thus didn't really say anything.
 
And for the messaging Mel thing since I don't think she mentioned it, you wanted to talk SL's or whatever, and if anything she was avoiding you so she didn't have to lie to you in regards to her leaving because we wanted to make it a sudden thing {So sue me, I took the ending about 'getting away from it all' from Tony/Michelle at the end of Season 4} that no one relaly knew about.
 
Now as far as our match {which I waited until I read your second mention of it to get into it} if I recall you mentioned something about not being pleased with me jobbing the title. I told you just to trust me and you finally said you did, but you still didn't like it. I said that because I was currently working on an RP and I can't remember if I had said the deadline was waivered before or after we talked {I think after I posted my first RP}. Though I made the post in the thread the judges should have read since it wasn't too long after the first one. If they didn't read it to know deadline was waivered, is that my fault?
 
So did I throw the match?
 
No. Not at all. I wasn't able to make deadline is all and didn't let them know until like an hour after the deadline. I still stand by the RP's I did as having been some of my best work {remember folks, quality > quantity}, especially that second RP. To toot my own horn I feel that second one was one of the best pieces I've ever done because it was so filled with emotion and really well done. So if I was gonna throw the match, I wouldn't have put THAT much effort into those RP's I did.
 
Now back to the Ernie thing one last time, sorry if you're getting mad about the thread {which not to switch blame to Tim but we both took shots in a joking manner}, or the PPV recognition but come on, it's BUDMANIA! The World Champ does one lously RP where he bad mouthed Rebecca and Seifer {and mind you he used OOC shit to bash Seifer} half the time and you expect me to not say anything when I know for a fact that the would be defending champion Rebecca would have given Kreed a fight? Or me or both or whatever.
 
Anyways, I'm finished. So follow Roxy's request and don't reply to this unless your her lol. I know she said no one but I wanted to make a reply on the boards and I'll also speak to her on the matter on IM.
 
I'm still not mad, just had to respond. You took things seriously when you shoulda came to me with your problem. I don't blame you for getting upset I was taking shots at Syck but don't blame me for making jokes about the fact that I feel he didn't deserve the world title and then completely dropped the ball with even lamer excuses to boot {not by him but others no less}.
 
If anything looks sketchy bring it up and I will claify because I don't feel like proof reading it lol. Alright, I think I'm done.

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From: <NOBR>MSN Nickname-нΙѕғΙяэғ∫үғяφмнз∫�?</NOBR> Sent: 14/03/2006 9:02 AM
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The topic states if you get offended easily, don't read it. I knew it wouldn't keep anyone from reading but if you had enough, you would have deleted it and then talked to me about it rather than get all upset over what was meant to be a joke. Cause that's what it was, Tim and I were joking. But I guess I get to take the heat cause I posted it? Or you've been biting your tongue for way too long and have just been waiting for the opportune moment to come at me on the boards so everyone can see. Once again, I don't see why you couldn't have emailed me or IM'd me if you were that upset {you took a lot of shots at me so that proves you're pissed}.
 
Yes I was mad and when I'm mad, you of all people know I react.  I am annoyed that people can't let things go...hence why I had to say something.  You've been taking shot at him for a month now.  All I can say is get over it and move on.  This is a game and something that people should be having fun at doing...you are not allowing that to happen...IT'S A GAME...a game.
 
Now let's take it from the top. Fine, Kreed and Syck had their reasons for working the match that way... only I didn't see them and I'm sure I'm not the only one. They had a SL match that wasn't even RP'd for, where's the fun in that? Where's the tension? Hell there wasn't even a backstory and this was BudMania! And no, it's not similar to what I did in Jan. We had a small story brewing for a couple months that we threw out a couple RP's and made mention of it in other RP's. We came to a head at W2D and waivered the 24 hour deadline and both put out some pretty decent RP's. At least I didn't just completely drop the ball {and I can name at least three other instances when I've been a champion and I didn't have much time or whatever and I STILL found a way to RP when others, including friends of mine, dropped the ball like Syck just did}.
 
I agree but this was something that Kreed and Syck decided.  And this was their match.
 
Now as far as me getting over it? You should know I don't get over screw jobs easily. And I think you should check your facts.. yes, I have talked shit outside of RP's to anyone who would listen because when I feel something is unjust, that's just what I do. So in that term I can see why you'd be upset. But written into most my RP's? Are you rucktarded {term is credited to WallStreet}? I may have mentioned it once or twice and that's about it. How about you go check Syck's RP's because he name dropped the fuck out of 'Seifer'. So before you try and make me look bad, check your facts.
 
I wasn't trying to make anyone make anyone look bad, you keep pressing the issue and it's becoming annoying, as I've said before.
 
Yes, Syck has done a lot and I'm not taking that away from him. I'm sorry that shit had to go down that way that makes me feel he was undeserving to win the championship, but if he had a problem with what I said, why didn't he come foward? I don't bite. Hell, since you have a problem once again why didn't you say anything?
 
I didn't have a problem until this bullshit and Ernie hasn't said anything because he's ignoring you...and didn't want to waste his time...but I read almost everything...so I've seen everything you've said and I have come to you...maybe not all crazy until now, but meh.
 
So now he's a legend who choses to have fun and be creative with his pieces. Hey that's fine and good but wasn't it YOU who mentioned you don't like storyline out the Heavyweight title when you thought I was throwing the match to Rancid? Yet when it's Syck, that's a whole different story, he's a legend, he's alowed to do that. THAT is why he's been made out to be a joke, because there are a lot of people who read those RP's, in and out of BUD and believe there was no way he beat her. Some of these people aren't my good friends or people I even talk to either.
 
No, it's not because it was him...it's because you did it why can't he and if she thought she won, then why didn't she havea  rematch against him and proved that she could beat him.  There were 3 judges, two of which voted for him...and had their reasons. [sure.. in a fed where's he's not golden boy.. ]
 
I never told you I wasn't going to run with his comic book scene, I said that in an RP and then decided to do it because I wanted to have fun. Though I really don't get what that has to do with anything...
 
You have one version, I guess I remember another.
 
Though on the MOD PPV topic, yes, I did say I was ok with you judging. This was after you asked me over and over and over again. Why? Because I kept giving you indecisive answers. Why? Because obviously I was uncomfortable about you judging. I had a big match once that I lost under the SAME circumstances in regards to opponent/single judge. Not to mention it is known I've never been fond about having one judge. I finally agreed because no one would step up... though I don't blame them, there was a lot to judge but I also find it kind of lame. We managed to get 5 judges for Seifer/Nova and combined we did far more. Judges should have been decided before hand, as they should start being done now so people can read as they go up and take notes. Nonetheless...
 
Judges were, but people change their minds or ditch out at the last minute due to circumstance out of their controls...shit happens.
 
I love how now you're trying to make ME look bad when all I did was keep my word. I told Mel prior {go ahead and ask Matt for confirmation} that if I lose I would be gone {and what's so bad with that? I practically did it all anyways}. We all know I don't like to lose and thus become very sore when I do {whether it's legit or not, which most aren't} it's called being very passionate and taking competition seriously, which I find no problem with that.
 
So when the judging went up and you choose him, what did I do? I wrote up a respectful message that said I was leaving, and THAT WAS IT. Never once did I mention how I really felt on the boards. I only told those I was close to, nothing wrong with that either.
 
Now what did YOU do when I posted that message? You threw a big ol' fit and turned yourself into the victim, saying you knew this would happen. And then without getting a reply for me or talking to me, you withdrew your vote because suddenly everyone was against you.
 
You didn't throw a big ol'fit, but to some it was...and me a victim?  LOL  In order for that to happen I would have to have been violated, beat up or somewhat hurt...and um...it's been a very long time since anything online made me out to be a victim...um...something like never.  I withdrew my vote because I didn't want bullshit that's the only reason...but I, as well as others, knew that was going to happen and no it wasn't because everyone was against me...if I remember correctly, I had several people tell me to let the vote stand as is...it was my decision and mine alone.
 
Guilty conscious anyone?
 
Nope...just didn't want to hear anyone cry.  Kinda like now.
 
Yeah, you did have really valid points. Fuck, you're a good writer, that's not hard. I could give long detailed resonings on why someone beat someone else so long as they gave me enough to work with, doesn't matter who's is better, it's not that hard. Am I saying you did that persae? Nah, I believe you legitimately thought he won, but consider the source. For some reason I don't think a Seifer/Syck match with Mel as the sole judge would go over well.
 
Like I said, you were the one who said to disregard your vote and find more judges, not I. I never asked for it and I never complained about it. I was ready to swallow the bitter pill until I was being told that you guys {You guys cause I think Tim was apart of that and even said that your vote should stick} were going to get two more judges so of course I wasn't going to just say no when I felt there was a chance for justice to be served.
 
Though me leaving if I lost MOD wasn't the only part of it, it also had to do with the fact that I didn't have anytime at the moment to RP and thus even though it was overturned, I still took an LOA. Which is also why I wasn't able to fight in a match to determine the winner, not to mention I felt it was pointless seeing as the MOD Rp's should be judged, not something we did after.
 
But whatever, MOD was way back then and I really don't see why you decided to bring it up now seeing as it has nothing to do with this 'situation' even though I don't even see why this is a situation in the first place, least not on the boards.
 
Far as the match RR vs BC, I was under the impression Ernie handled that and you were away that weekend but I don't quite remember so no comment though that has nothing to do with me.
 
So because you took a joking/ribbing around with Tim to heart, you made me a member because you weren't sure how I'd react? Meh, I'll save my thoughts on this matter for when I talk to you on IM.
 
Now one of the main reasons you might be wondering why the jokes about Syck and this match. Well that's because people gave me heat for my match. So after I feel he was given the belt, he puts on a lously performance that makes mine and Mel's look like match of the year. You can see why I'd be annoyed and wished I'd of used my rematch clause to at least give Kreed and BUD a real main event. As far as retiring goes.. well I won't comment to much but I was under the impression that was at MOD, don't see why he wouldn't put up a better fight regardless at the second biggest PPV.
 
Yes, it was fire with fire. Ernie didn't care about it so he didn't say anything to me, you did. So when you came at me, Mel said something {cause she was brought into it, I didn't ask her to reply}. And I think I'm starting to repeat myself since I wrote the first part of it before 24 {over 2 hours ago}, but I don't get over what I consider a screw job easily to me and mine. Sorry if you disagree but that's how I feel about it.
 
As far as trashing Ernie, well I wasn't so much trashing him bar that situation because of how I felt it went down. I trashed Syck more than Ernie and unlike some, I can differentiate from character and out of character {Ie my opinion on the awards post}. It's not as if I hate him though, and I think he knows that thus didn't really say anything.
 
And for the messaging Mel thing since I don't think she mentioned it, you wanted to talk SL's or whatever, and if anything she was avoiding you so she didn't have to lie to you in regards to her leaving because we wanted to make it a sudden thing {So sue me, I took the ending about 'getting away from it all' from Tony/Michelle at the end of Season 4} that no one relaly knew about.
 
Now as far as our match {which I waited until I read your second mention of it to get into it} if I recall you mentioned something about not being pleased with me jobbing the title. I told you just to trust me and you finally said you did, but you still didn't like it. I said that because I was currently working on an RP and I can't remember if I had said the deadline was waivered before or after we talked {I think after I posted my first RP}. Though I made the post in the thread the judges should have read since it wasn't too long after the first one. If they didn't read it to know deadline was waivered, is that my fault?
 
So did I throw the match?
 
No. Not at all. I wasn't able to make deadline is all and didn't let them know until like an hour after the deadline. I still stand by the RP's I did as having been some of my best work {remember folks, quality > quantity}, especially that second RP. To toot my own horn I feel that second one was one of the best pieces I've ever done because it was so filled with emotion and really well done. So if I was gonna throw the match, I wouldn't have put THAT much effort into those RP's I did.
 
Now back to the Ernie thing one last time, sorry if you're getting mad about the thread {which not to switch blame to Tim but we both took shots in a joking manner}, or the PPV recognition but come on, it's BUDMANIA! The World Champ does one lously RP where he bad mouthed Rebecca and Seifer {and mind you he used OOC shit to bash Seifer} half the time and you expect me to not say anything when I know for a fact that the would be defending champion Rebecca would have given Kreed a fight? Or me or both or whatever.
 
Anyways, I'm finished. So follow Roxy's request and don't reply to this unless your her lol. I know she said no one but I wanted to make a reply on the boards and I'll also speak to her on the matter on IM.
 
I'm still not mad, just had to respond. You took things seriously when you shoulda came to me with your problem. I don't blame you for getting upset I was taking shots at Syck but don't blame me for making jokes about the fact that I feel he didn't deserve the world title and then completely dropped the ball with even lamer excuses to boot {not by him but others no less}.
 
If anything looks sketchy bring it up and I will claify because I don't feel like proof reading it lol. Alright, I think I'm done.
 
As am I...this is over and I rather it be dropped since now it's me and Nick on messenger.  Tootles.

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From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameÇöŕńēŕĕďĂńĩmâŀ-ΜĀŤĽÖÇĶ</NOBR> Sent: 14/03/2006 9:17 AM
I must say. This is rather pathetic. ....No, it's very pathetic. Here's an idea....stop talking to one another!  That way you wouldn't have to put up with each other's shit! OMG IT'S SO SIMPLE!

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