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General : Strict Kosher Show Assistance
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From: MSN Nicknamerwester_scrappi  (Original Message)Sent: 10/30/2005 4:35 AM
I met the sweetest, wonderful, woman at a fair I did this weekend.  The lady approached me about how she loves Pampered Chef.  When I asked her about a show, she said she's wanted to have one before, but could not find a consultant who would do one for her, because she has a strictly Kosher kitchen. 
I told her that I'd be happy to do a show for her and would be more than willing to work with her on proper recipe selection.  She then explained that the recipe wasn't the problem, it was that I would not be able to use my products because I have cooked products in them that are not Kosher items.  She admits to having quite a few PC items that she has ordered from the catalogs that I could use of hers.
I am not familiar AT ALL with Jewish faith, and am requesting assistance from my faithful cyber friends!  Anybody know the "rules and regulations", types of no-no foods, etc?  I certainly do not want to offend her!  I did admit to her that I am not very familiar with her faith and that I will have to visit with her to properly plan.  Any guidance, suggestions, information you can provide is GREATLY appreciated!


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From: MSN Nicknamerwester_scrappiSent: 10/30/2005 4:50 AM
Yes, and this woman knew that.  She commented how she doesn't understand why we carry Kosher products, but won't do Kosher shows.  I'd be happy to do a Kosher show...if I know how.  I'm embarrassed to admit that I am that unfamiliar with their beliefs.

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From: MSN NicknamePCBombChelleSent: 10/30/2005 4:54 AM
Don't be embarassed!  Most of us don't understand it either!  Me included.  I just happened to see it one day on the spices!
 
It's kind of funny that she wondered why we don't do Kosher shows.  Wasn't she the one who said you can't use your products because they had touched non Kosher foods!  Does she expect consultants to carry two different kits to shows and HOPE that the products were not cross contaminated?  I didn't realize that they were like that with utensils.  Not trying to be rude or unsensitive to her beliefs or anything.  You ARE doing your best to accomidate her....
 
Good luck!
Michelle

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From: MSN NicknamekelcyreneeSent: 10/30/2005 5:07 AM
I would have the show for her but maybe ask if she has a favorite recipe and use that! When I encountered (only once) someone with a special diet, I let them choose one of their recipes. I hope you get this one figured out!
 
Kelcy

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From: MSN NicknameJMChizz1Sent: 10/30/2005 1:03 PM
  1. Certain animals may not be eaten at all. This restriction includes the flesh, organs, eggs and milk of the forbidden animals.
  2. Of the animals that may be eaten, the birds and mammals must be killed in accordance with Jewish law.
  3. All blood must be drained from the meat or broiled out of it before it is eaten.
  4. Certain parts of permitted animals may not be eaten.
  5. Meat (the flesh of birds and mammals) cannot be eaten with dairy. Fish, eggs, fruits, vegetables and grains can be eaten with either meat or dairy. (According to some views, fish may not be eaten with meat).
  6. Utensils that have come into contact with meat may not be used with dairy, and vice versa. Utensils that have come into contact with non-kosher food may not be used with kosher food. This applies only where the contact occurred while the food was hot.
  7. Grape products made by non-Jews may not be eaten.

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From: MSN NicknameJMChizz1Sent: 10/30/2005 1:06 PM
The food rules (meat and dairy combined; pork; shellfish etc) are pretty easy - Products will be the issue - (Take her up on her offer to use her products) ask if it is okay to use yours STRICTLY for display

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From: MSN Nicknamerwester_scrappiSent: 10/30/2005 4:37 PM
Thank you so much JMChizz1.  That will definitely help.  I was wondering about at least being able to display some of my products, or even doing a potato demo or something with products that will not be eaten.
When she came to the booth the second day to talk to me some more, she mentioned perhaps trying to have it at her ___ (don't recall what she called her church entertainment area), so that there could be more people.  I'm thinking to myself, Oh Lord, I'm already nervous enough and you want me to go to your place of worship and not make a fool of myself or offend anyone! :)

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From: MSN NicknameJMChizz1Sent: 10/30/2005 7:08 PM

That would be Shul (shool), temple or syanagogue.  No offense and no need to be nervous, although frankly comments like " they were like that with utensils.." are offensive. I still am careful in my MIL's kitchen. - If you are unsure - just ask.  Chances are she will buy the food - and it will be "dairy"

You will also find that there are levels of conformity within Kosher - but that is for another day. (sorta pick and choose)

Actually it could be a great show for you as we need 2 of everything- one for meat and one for dairy.   Hannukah is coming - The Celebrate plate is nice for Jelly donuts or latkes (potatoe pancakes - which can be baked - big bar pan)  Simple additions ROCK as they can be used for kiddush (or the oneg) after services (cake cookies, etc)I show them also for latkes as you can use the big square for the latkes and put the apple sauce, sourcream etc in the others.  The EAD also fills the homemade jelly donuts.

The Roaster (new and stoneware) holds a couple of chickens (a traditional Shabbat - sabbath - meal) the rectangle baker and lid will allow it to be cooked before sundown on Friday night and as most observant Jews can not cook on Shabbat - and kept warm for a meal or nosh (snack) on Sat.

Apple Wedger was nice for Rosh Hashana as we eat apples dipped in honey (SA)

You'll be fine - we are Moms and daughters and wives like evryone else ..

 

 

 


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From: MSN NicknameModeratorMichelleSent: 10/30/2005 7:35 PM
No offense and no need to be nervous, although frankly comments like " they were like that with utensils.." are offensive.
 
I'm so sorry JMChizz1.  It was not meant to be offensive.  I just didn't know!  How could I know?  I didn't realize that cleaning your dishes really didn't clean them enough for something like this.  I'm sorry to offend you, it was not meant to be so.  I can't appologize enough for my ignorance. 
 
Michelle

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From: MSN NicknameJMChizz1Sent: 10/30/2005 7:44 PM
It was the "they were like that..." not the fact that you did not know -
No biggie
jc

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From: MSN NicknameChefVickiiSent: 10/31/2005 6:23 PM
Thank you again for posting information on this... I am going to do a boutique at a Temple at the end of this month and this helps me understand which products are ones to focus on. 
 
Q: Do you think I should ask the person in charge of the boutique if they would prefer only 'kosher' items in my display?
 
Any other suggestions recommended! As always this board ROCKS!

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From: MSN NicknamechefmarilynSent: 10/31/2005 6:41 PM
How fascinating that this topic is on the board today.  For some weird reason I was thinking about our colored bar boards as I drove to work this morning.  I'm not really that weird lol - it was probably because I cut up some grilled chicken on my white one (that I've used for years) just before leaving home to bring for my lunch salad and since I wasn't running the dishwasher today I had spritzed it with Clorox Cleanup and washed it just before leaving.
 
After using it I thought how I need to buy one of the new colored ones since I keep it out on the counter for just such tasks.  And driving in I thought about how this would be perfect for Jewish families who use separate utensils - they could use one color for dairy and one for meat!  I don't know a lot about the customs myself, but did know that much.  Hmmm - and this is leading WHERE?  Nowhere - just a thought!  Marilyn

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From: MSN Nicknamezxzxzxzxzx423Sent: 10/31/2005 7:13 PM
Marilyn -
 
That's a GREAT idea!  I have a Kosher show coming up in March and I sure hope they continue to carry the colored boards!  And I am also glad this topic has come up because my hostess (who is not Jewish but works in a Jewish school) and I are working hard to make this a great show all around!  yes we are planning way in advance!
 
Leisa
 

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From: qutepetutieSent: 10/31/2005 7:26 PM
I am not kosher. I did do a kosher show.
 
We did the cool veggie pizza.
 
WHat I did was I prepared a pizza ahead of time with the hosts tools .PC or not did not matter. It was all ready when everyone got there.
 
THEN I did a show demo w/my tools (non kosher) . I explained everything. I was very cautious to the point of neurotic w/my host making sure things were in the right place etc. I told them they were going to enjoy the previous pizza that is kosher and I'll take mine home.
Everyone had a great time ands loved the recipe.
 
btw- we used a premade pizza crust similar to a bobili that was kosher

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From: MSN Nicknamejlm1970Sent: 11/1/2005 2:24 AM
I just added this to the Hot Topics section for future reference.
 
Jenn

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