I feel alot of struggles to come. Delete her emails as they come, they are childish and no sense in playing her game.

How does your son FEEL?  does he want a baby, is adoption a thought? does she threaten abortion?

I don't see the little girl you have dreamed about being this child.

Are you sure she is pregant? I don't know where that came from. just popped in my head. are they dating? Is it possible she is trying to get pg?

I feel if your son puts his foot down about where he is going and what he wants, she will be gone. Like they would live with you, rather than her parents. He will continue to go to school and do what he needs to do  to support them. She will have to get a job to help. Simple things she hasn't thought of, may bring a stop to all the games before it does get out of hand.

hope this makes some sense to you.

hi

 

she is always using the child as a pawn..."if you don't love me anymore then I don't want the baby..... and I will kill it...i'll go drink my parents alcohol"

 

How he truly feels...I have no idea... they have been on again off again for a couple years...that is why i don't think this will work..... my son will do the hopnourable thing and support his child.....

 

I, like you have questioned whether she is truly pregnant or not as she has been resistant to go to the doctor.... BUT... she is there right now with me son...she is so childish that she couldn't call the doctor's office without him being right there....

 

There is some abuse in her family by her parents...so I won't let him live there.... he is slowly putting his foot down.....

 

I am keeping the e-mails so we can prove manipulation and mental abuse when we have to go to court for custody...... she is unfit to care for this child... her and her mother thought that my son was going to pay for EVERYTHING for her and the baby... the baby he is 50% responsible for its cost.......

 

She is too late to abort.... she waited telling my son that it was ust her thyroid that was making her miss her period..... so by the tiem my son knew she was over two months!!

 

I sense that she will be gone by christmas??....do you see that???

 

and this girl get a ob...she had one last year BUT didn't think showing up was important!!!!!

 

YUP... immature comes to mind!!!

 

I am just concerned whether my son will graduate or not with all the stress he is under..... i know he will be an awesome dad..... and i will help where i can....

 

So yup i guess alot of what you have said makes sense.....

You just kinda re-enforced that i am intuitive and i should trust my gut more and not doubt myself.....

 

They are thinking of naming her "Serenity"

 

thanks again...missdaisy

I don't see her sticking around long,  she won't be able to handle what it takes to care for a baby. I think she'll give up fairly easy.

The abuse in her family is why she figures she has to manipulate, cheat and do whatever it takes.

If he puts his foot down now, he will finish school. Tell him he needs to take care of himself, to be able to be a good parent. Alot of what she will do depends on what he does now.

I'd still make sure she is pg. This keeps coming to my mind. He can force the issue by saying he is going with her to dr, or even be there with home pg test. I just get the feeling she is lying, at least about something.

 

hi ssmystic...

 

Pregnancy is confirmed...just date of arrival is not...she doesn't know her dates.... this i find hard to believe as any teenage girl would know when her period is due or was last......

 

I am like you thinking i smell a rat and she is lieing about alot of shit.....

 

I told him tonight he HAS to finish school and he has to put his foot down with things and start standing up for himself....

 

manipulative...she is bigtime......my son with be with her for most of the doctor's appointments as her mom isn't going to take her...... she is saying that her dad will leave her mom when he finds out and so she is scared...probably of being alone... she claims that her dad will make her mom choose between them..... this i find hard to believe......

 

my son right now just wants her to take care of the baby so is trying not to upset her....but he is also trying to help...but he is getting stressed.....

 

do you see anything else......i sense a girl???

 

Missdaisy

I'm feeling a girl too.

If there is abuse in the family, if dad finds out what? and yes it is possible that he would make mom choose between them. Is your son for sure the father? That is the lie I'm feeling. I'm feeling there is sexual abuse in her house.

Just keep reminding your son, he has to take care of himself to be there for the baby. That is very important.

hi ssmystic.....

 

I have questioned the paternity and he says it is his and she is saying the same....i never thought of incest....OMG what a horrible thought......but if there is incest wouldn't you want not to get pregnanat or is this her way of getting out of it.....

 

once we have an ultrasound with a due date I can figure it all out and i would know for sure.....however a child deserves to be loved regardless how it came into the world........

 

and yes i keep stressing with my son to take care of himself so he can take care of the baby....... however the guy he is doing his apprenticeship with for his electrician is a workaholic ....... my son is getting the hours but he is also getting exhausted..... i see it and i am doing what i can to help......

 

then that dream was right.......a son raising a child that isn't his.........

 

my son will be able to tell me if there is sexual abuse...i will bring up the abuse topic and see what information he knows and what he can get out of her..... the doctor did a good thing and told her to seek counselling.......a couple years ago my son reported the parents for abuse and she denied it to the ministry of children ad families however she does act and come across as an abused child... i am a nurse and i can normally spot a troubled/abused child, and she, i have always thought was abused......

 

thanks so much for everything.......maybe i will just have my son read all this.....

 

thanks again....

missdaisy

I sure hope that things turn out alright. They are so young. With incest, if it started early enough, he may never of thought of her as getting older and being able to get pg. It's a scary thing.

I worked with kids who were abused in a group home setting. I was also a survivor. It is usual for the kids to lie to protect the abuser.

If he has any questions, tell him he is free to ask me and I will answer them the best I can.

It will all work out in the end, the way it is suppose to.

hi ssmystic....

 

My son is also a survivor of abuse......

 

not sure if my son will read this or question her about all this.....

 

will try and will keep you posted.....

 

thanks again

Hey hon, hes a good kid, he will do what is necessary, with your support. I would also insist on a paternity test, for his sake.  Good luck with it all and you guys are in my prayers. Candyle

hi all....

 

he won't even consider it as a child of incest and he says it is his....i don't think it is... kids at school are saying it is NOT my son's......

 

he won't hear of it!!!

 

a friend said to find a way to have an amniocentesis done so that later they would have baby's DNA for the paternity....

 

i think at some point she will lose it and say it is NOT his......

 

but i don't know when paternity tests can be done.........do we have to wait until the baby  is born???

 

I don't know if they can do paternity tests before the baby is born or not.It's funny that kids are even thinking the same thing, not his. They probably know more about it than adults. See if you know someone that the kids are willing to talk to and get all the info you can. I think he is having problems with the whole idea because he feels betrayed. He is a male that had sex with someone with at least some of the right ideas and feelings. He doesn't believe that she is deceiptive. Most people have trouble believing any adult would have sex with their child, and get them pg. But she isn't the first. If her dad doesn't know she is pg yet, this could turn nasty real fast. Even if she was screwing around with multiple boys. I still am not sure she is pg. but she may have been and like you say lose it.

hi mystic.....

 

The doctor confirmed the pregnancy and has sent in the referral for the ultrasound....

my other son is trying to get some of the kids at school to talk....

i asked my son to find out exactly what types of abuse are happening

he feels that it couldn't be incest b/c he is around when the father is home BUT as i pointed out...not all the time.....

no the father of the girl does NOT know about the pregnancy and she appears frightened to tell him.... her and her mother were expecting my son to tell him...i put my foot downt here...i said her father she can tell and that is wasn't his responsibility......

i sense that she will deliver early....... like at 7 months.....

 

when i said lose it i meant she may get angry and tell my son the truth about the father..... and may admit that it is not my son's....

 

sorry i wasn't so clear there....

you have been a great help!!!

 

Missdaisy