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From: MSN NicknameHiccup1  (Original Message)Sent: 4/25/2008 1:48 PM
did anyone else's mouth just fall open last night???!!!?!!


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From: MSN NicknameHiccup1Sent: 4/25/2008 3:57 PM
my mouth kept falling open.
 
 
ben's daughter
sayid's wife
 
etc.
 
really good episode. they've sucked me back in again.

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From: MSN NicknameSmigChickSent: 4/25/2008 6:11 PM
LOL, I think it's assumed there will be "spoilers" in any thread on this sideboard, Torty.
 
Yeah, my jaw dropped when they killed Ben's daughter. I guess because she's just a kid (to me she is, anyway), and that always shocks me about television shows anymore. I expect a lot of killing on Lost - ever since that first season of shocking deaths - but I really didn't expect that. I wonder what Ben meant by "they changed the rules".
 
You know what I miss the most about this show though? The mystery. They've pretty much dropped the numbers thing (which was most intriguing to me) and it never did resolve itself, imo. And the mystical stuff, like the smoke monster - well, Ben brings it out last night, so at least we know it still exists, but why has he kept it hidden for so long when he could've used it to his advantage many times? It would seem he has total control over it. And did they ever explain the polar bear? I don't think so.
 
I can't wait to find out more about Jacob though. It's driving me nuts that they spent time introducing that, then haven't been there in ages now.
 
And what was with Kate's flirty smile to Jack, lol?
 

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From: MSN Nickname•ChickyAfternoon�/nobr>Sent: 4/25/2008 7:12 PM
I was very disappointed last night with the way they killed off Alex.  Nothing like executing a kid on national TV like that.  I can't get it out of my head.  I guess it wouldn't be LOST without the shock factor.
 
Michael Emerson's performance as Ben last night was Emmy worthy.  He was absolutely spectacular.  One of my favorite scenes was the one with Sayid when he manipulated him into shooting Nadia's killer.  LOVED the little smirk on his face as he walked away.
 
Also......
Sawyer is THE MAN!  He rescued Claire.  Had a showdown with Locke that you know he would have won if Hurley hadn't said he would go with Locke and Ben.  Did you see the look on Locke's face when Sawyer warned him that there had better not be a hair harmed on Hurley's body or Sawyer would kill Locke?  Gotta love Sawyer!

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From: ConradSent: 4/25/2008 7:28 PM
Michael Emerson rocks! He's a first class actor! Great show last night in so many ways. 
 
 
Yeah, Alex getting killed was shocking but that's why the show is on 'late'. As for Ben calling out the smoke monster now and not at some earlier time when he could have used it? I think that was part of what he meant about the rules being changed now.

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From: MSN NicknameTequĂŻIaSent: 4/25/2008 10:41 PM
Sawyer saving Claire last night was fab. So hot.
 
The smoke monster is ridiculous in my opinion... Too unrealistic... I mean the numbers thing is really interesting... but a smoke monster? Seriously.

Sayid's wife - Nadia was it? Is that the girl he wouldn't torture? I must have zoned out for a bit.
 
Also, the guy with the eye patch had a cat named Nadia (I only remember because he said she was named after Nadia Comaneci) weird to have two things with the same name in a show with no connection?

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From: MSN NicknameSmigChickSent: 4/25/2008 11:25 PM
Yeah, that was Emmy-worthy. He's phenomenal. You really hate that character...yet you feel empathy for him as well. Well-rounded. Good stuff. And the look on his face when they actually killed Alex. Man...
 
Yes, Sawyer is the bomb, but he's always been my 'hero' on this, so I wasn't surprised. Probably why I didn't even think to mention it, lol. That seemed the most 'normal' thing about the whole show.
 
I was drawing a bit of a blank on Sayid myself, Teq. I'm still fuzzy. Is Nadia the one he was supposed to have tortured for info way back when? But he couldn't do it? I was assuming this was someone he met when he got off the island, fell in love, married her, and one of these bad guys offed her....But I have NO idea, lol.
 
I wish the writers could instill in me that same sense of awe and wonder and mystery they had me on during that first season, though. All those different underground things, the video cameras, the abandonded medical facility, doing that anti-magnetic field thing every 180 minutes (or whatever it was)....they could've had a ton more mysteries just in that underground shelter. And why did they only have old, old records down there when clearly they could still receive "care packages" up to the present day? (One of my many unanswered questions that I fear they will never address, lol)
 
And are they ever going to explain the 'weird' stuff? Like why the passage of time is - apparently - very different on the island than off it? And why Jack would see his father and why what's-his-name would see Walt (soaking wet and talking backwards, no less)? It seems to me that they present all this weird stuff, they answer or resolve a handful of things, then continue to introduce more and more new things, but never go back to answer these questions. And if the island has such healing abilities (Locke's legs, for example), then why haven't we seen any of the dead people yet, like they're really alive still?
 
LOL, questions, questions...

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From: MSN Nickname•ChickyAfternoon�/nobr>Sent: 4/25/2008 11:53 PM
Sayid's wife - Nadia was it? Is that the girl he wouldn't torture? I must have zoned out for a bit.
That's her.  Same gal.
 
Also, the guy with the eye patch had a cat named Nadia (I only remember because he said she was named after Nadia Comaneci) weird to have two things with the same name in a show with no connection?
I was thinking about this too but not about the cat and Sayid's wife.  I thought of another case of using a similiar name with Charlie and Charles Widmore.  But if you think about it in "real life" we come across the same or similiar names all of the time. 
 
And if the island has such healing abilities (Locke's legs, for example), then why haven't we seen any of the dead people yet, like they're really alive still?
And why does Jack have appendicitis......And why did Ben have a tumor on his spine?

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From: MSN NicknameT-o-r-s-t-e-nSent: 4/28/2008 2:42 PM
whoa whoa whoa...Locke would not have lost that tif w/ Sawyer, rofl 
 
Locke didn't look intimidated, he looked weary of Sawyer's predictable hot-headedness.  You know, like exhausted by Sawyer's lack of comprehension. 
 
Anyway, I don't hate Sawyer, but I do have another criticism of the character.  I was almost on my floor laughing, but I was definitley laughing out loud in real life when I saw him firing a pistol into a jungle tree line plush with a numerous and hidden militia of light machine guns and machine guns all firing at him, as he ran in a straight line behind a knee-high picket fence, to take cover behind--what was it--a wooden picnic table? 
 
Now, I know I know, Torty, Ben said to Sawyer that they killed those generic survivors just to piss him off.  So the scene wasn't unrealistic cuz they didn't want to kill Sawyer.  Well, I don't know if I buy that, but I will say the element I am criticizing lives either way because Sawyer was an idiot for the manner he went about running straight lines in plain sight with pistol versus a machine gun mercenary group of murderers, lol. 
 
 

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From: MSN Nickname•ChickyAfternoon�/nobr>Sent: 4/28/2008 4:52 PM
It amazes me Torty, that you are such an expert on EVERYTHING.

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From: MSN NicknameSmigChickSent: 4/28/2008 6:25 PM
"Ben said to Sawyer that they killed those generic survivors just to piss him off"

Wait - what did I miss???

And Torty, this is common in almost every movie and television show I've ever seen, lol - if they don't want a character dead, he or she can outrun a bullet, can be shot at with little chunks blowing out of furniture, trees, etc., all around them without ever being hit, or even actually get hit but the bullet doesn't get an organ or cause major damage/death.

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From: MSN NicknameT-o-r-s-t-e-nSent: 4/28/2008 6:41 PM
chicky, it doesn't take an expert to know that Man w/ Pistol in Plain Sight vs. Jungle-hidden Militia w/ Machine guns isn't an escapable outcome, lol

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From: MSN Nickname•ChickyAfternoon�/nobr>Sent: 4/28/2008 8:45 PM
My comment was not directed towards Sawyer not getting hit bya bullet in all of the gunfire that came his way. 
 
It was more directed towards
whoa whoa whoa...Locke would not have lost that tif w/ Sawyer, rofl 

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From: MSN NicknameT-o-r-s-t-e-nSent: 4/28/2008 9:07 PM
well, and? 
 
Sawyer had better odds emerging unscathed from militia machine gun fire than he would've faced against Locke.
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anyway, all this aside, the only way this show could be any better if somehow, some...way, none other than the other JJ Abrams master manipulator came into play as a rival of Ben & Whitmore's:  Arvin Sloane, who would eat Ben's lunch, and chew up Whitmore and spit him out
 

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From: MSN NicknameSmigChickSent: 4/29/2008 7:54 PM
Ooo, where do I know that from, Torty? That sounds so familiar!

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From: MSN Nickname__HollyGolightly__Sent: 4/30/2008 6:57 AM
I think a lot of the mysteries are going to come back. They had a polar bear skeleton in that desert episode, so they haven't forgotten. And Fereday (sp?) is so tight-lipped about things, but I'm sure they'll get it out of him what the time is about.

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