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Hi Poppysmom, I won't be of much help, probably, because my Vos, Diana, came from a wonderful breeder who handled her a lot. She has gone thru the hormone meanies a couple of times in the last year or so and NayNay suggested I wrap my hand in a towel to pick her up. Worked wonderfully--but Diana was not afraid of towels because I had taught her as a baby to let me cover her with them. Have you tried a stick to pick her up? I have used one, tilted up on her end after she steps on, and then cover my hand with a washcloth so she won't run up the stick to bite me. Their bites are very painful and cut deeply so do protect yourself. Maybe someone will have another suggestion. How do you get her back to the other room after she wanders to the front room? Annie |
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| | From: Ollie· | Sent: 4/8/2003 3:50 PM |
My first question to you would be... If after retraining are you going to keep the bird?? If not then the owner should be working with this bird also. Ekkies are very cautious and deliberate birds. if you were to get this bird to work well with you, there is no gurantee that she will respond to the owner this same way. I would start very slowely with this bird, I would NOT let her have the run of the house.. she may interpret any movement towards her as a threat.. and as a breeder bird I bet she is not used to freedom. You have to earn her trust to begin with. Ekkies are one of the smartest birds, I rank them right up with the greys in the smarts department. For the first week you can try to just sit quietly by her cage, read, do some knitting if you are into that, just any quiet activity, and just talk to her once in a while, Dont be suprised if she is on the opposite side of the cage to begin with but as her curosity grows she will move closer and start to watch you, You can read nursery rhymes to her ( they love those sing songy voices), When you think she is comfortable with that then you can open her cage, she may come out... she may not, do that everyday for awhile, sit by her cage, just doing some quiet activity, soon her curiosity will get the better of her and she will make small movements towards you. This gets to be the tricky part, because there is just no way to rush an Ekkie, every move towards you is a deliberate thought on her part, and any really quick movement on your part will set you back. I am assuming that at this stage you will know what her favorite food is, Olivia's ( my Voz) fave food is raw carrots cut up into smallpieces you can use that food to build trust with your hands, try offering it to her while she is on her cage, keeping your hand lower than her head, (Ekkies HATE anything above their heads) If she does not take it right away, just put it on the cage close to you, and if she flies off the top of her cage and you have to retrieve her, make yourself as small as possible without bending over her and offer your arm ( I would also be wearing something thick , I wear a quilted Flannel jacket when working with a bird such as this) I have also gotten flat on the floor with my arm outstreched, and as your arm is still higher than the floor they will usually step up, once they will get on your arm, thats half the battle, Olivia does not like to be petted in the same way as my macaw does, and this bird may not either, you have to respect that in an Ekkie, I can stroke her beak and her chest but that is it., You have to work slowely but steadily, This is just an outline of things to try, you will have to adapt it to this birds personality, And again I will stress that the actual owner needs to be doing these steps, there is no sense in getting this bird to trust you then thrusting her back into a home where she has not built trust, and having to start all over again. Ollie |
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