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| | From:  Freeborn551 (Original Message) | Sent: 12/18/2006 3:30 AM |
Matthew 1 | The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. | | Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren; | | And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram; | | And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon; | | And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse; | | And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias; | | And Solomon begat Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa; | | And Asa begat Josaphat; and Josaphat begat Joram; and Joram begat Ozias; | | And Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias; | | And Ezekias begat Manasses; and Manasses begat Amon; and Amon begat Josias; | | And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon: | | And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat Zorobabel; | | And Zorobabel begat Abiud; and Abiud begat Eliakim; and Eliakim begat Azor; | | And Azor begat Sadoc; and Sadoc begat Achim; and Achim begat Eliud; | | And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob; | | And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. | | So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations. |
Someone, please tell us why this geneology of Jesus Christ does NOT INCLUDE ADAM! Why does this not go back to Adam? Why does it begin with Abraham and go no further back? Can it be that Jesus Christ (the Christ) has absolutely no connection with Adam? Have any of you ever considered this? or studied it? If not, why not? do you not desire TRUTH? Jo Smith | |
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| From: joie | Sent: 8/27/2006 1:38 PM | | Well no one took up this question. So I will answer it for you. This geneology in Matthew is not a fleshly line of people. It is the spiritual line. Notice that Paul told us if ye be Christ's then are you ABRAHAM'S seed, and heirs according to the promise. He saith not to seeds as to many (as would be in the natural, fleshly line). See he said it is one seed, which is Christ. So this one Holy Seed had to come from somewhere. Now this is what the world has missed. Yet it is clearly laid out in the Word of God. this Holy Seed, the spiritual line to Christ, has nothing to do with flesh. It is strictly spiritual, or that Spirit from God which leads us to eternal life. This holy seed came from the first Mother, Eve. It is so true. While the world is busy trying to lay the blame on this woman, and call her filthy ungodly names and accuse of her of ungodly sin, the Word of God declares that HER SEED WILL BRUISE THE HEAD OF THE SERPENT. Now this is the first prophecy of the coming of JESUS CHRIST. Is it not? How many agree or disagree? Her seed is Jesus Christ. not in the flesh, but in the Spirit. So this proves she had the righteous seed inside her, and that she passed this spiritual line or seed, or teaching on down to her spiritual children. That is why she did not claim Cain, the wicked one, for her seed. She was speaking Spiritual. She passed this holy seed into Abel, then into Seth. For she said God has given ME another seed in place of Abel, whom Cain slew. Cain was trying to get rid of this Spiritual seed, or grace. He wanted to gain control over the world forever. That was his and Adam's goal, to rule as god forever. That is why satan's children have always sought to kill true People of God. They are trying to get rid of this spiritul line of Christ, which began in Eve. I dont see how anyone could miss this true revelation. It is so clear. Jo | |
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Now this is the first prophecy of the coming of JESUS CHRIST. Is it not? How many agree or disagree?
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I agree. But something just came over me to ask you. Let us go back and look at Adam again. Before Eve was made. Did he not name all the animals? Do you see what I see? He was in charge of naming the animals. He was powerful in his own right. But let us not forget that GOD created the animals. Remember God said let us make man in our image. Adam was like God in the beginning. In a glorified body. I just thought I would write that since that came over me when I was making coffee and reading Genesis again. I keep going back to Genesis for some reason. Don;t know why. Tweety |
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Tweety, I well know why. So did I years ago (and still do) as God was leading me into the real truth of his Word. You can only get it, after you see what Genesis is really telling us. and that is DEEP. Yes, Adam was created in the image of God. He was not created in the likeness of sinful MAN as we are now in. Adam did NOT go from being a natural man, to be in the image of God. He went from the image of God, (that anointed Cherub) to be in the image of fallen or sinful man. So he was not the man God took and made INTO the image of God. That man was Jesus Christ. Jesus went from being in the image of sinful man, or natural man, to being in the image of God. This is the revelation everyone is missing. Jesus is the ONLY HUMAN MAN who has ever been made into the image of God. Adam was NOT A HUMAN Man who was made into the image of God. Adam was CREATED in the image of God to begin with. He had the glory to start with. He had that power as you stated. Yet, from all this glory and power, Adam was STILL covetous of God and wanted to be God. So in doing this jealous thing, he fell into sinful man. He took Eve down with him. But she repented and came back to serve God. Adam did not ever repent. He is still fallen man. His spirit is in the invisible world as Satan. He is still a powerful being, in the spirit world. When God told Eve, now your husband shall rule over you........He was not saying this is my choice for you, as everyone supposes. No. God had created them as EQUALS. But God was only telling Eve the CONQUENCES of her sin. All of the OT laws is the same........only God telling them the CONQUENCES of their sin. God was not telling anyone, Kill a sheep and offer its blood to me. Nope. People, you need to get this truth. God never at any time required blood of animals. He was only allowing Adam to rule over them. He was allowing them to have their own way. He was only telling them what they must do now that they have chosen law instead of Grace. He was only telling them the CONQUENCES of their sinful choice. The Word of God will open up to you in glory IF YOU CAN GET THIS TRUTH. Adam was that anointed cherub in Eze. 28. He is the one God cast out of that Garden because of his wickedness. There is no other man God cast out of that Garden. How can this whole world miss this clear truth? How can they miss that Jesus Christ is the SEED of the WOMAN and not the MAN? This is totally spiritual. Eve was this first Holy woman. She had the holy seed inside her,. It was not in Adam. It was in Eve. God never told Adam, Your seed with bruise the head of the serpent. He told this to Eve. Yet she is still accused of being the wicked one. Who is her accuser? The Wicked one. Adam. |
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Reply to # 4 The reason you are drawn to Genesis, is you wish to understand your source. I applaud you. I am going to be blunt, Adam and our Creator are one and the same, Adam is the creation drawing out the purpose of the Creator, which is to trap Satan in his own lies, which is what Adam and Eve did in the Garden. Had they not sin [as the world thinks], then you and I would never be. I as Solomon thank my Creator for Wisdom, Knowledge etc., but most of all, I pray for understanding of these things. You might as well face it, you are the creator in your creation. I truly hope that I have been helpful to you Tweety. Eric __________________________________________________
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No, Eric. Those LIES you just spoke could not possibly help anyone. Only to try to lead them astray. for you do as Pillar,,,,, speak only what junk happens to be floating around in your brain at any given time.......with not one word of proof for a thing you say. Give us Scripture (the Word of God) for all this mess you just said. Know what? You cannot do it, for your own carnal mind 'hatched' up this junk. Tweety knows too much already to fall into your trap of lies. Jo |
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Tweety knows too much already to fall into your trap of lies. Jo
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God moved on me last night to warn all of you who are toying with the idea that the WORD OF GOD is of no importance, or somehow, of lesser importance than the Spirit. Nothing could be further from the TRUTH. God, His Word, and His Spirit, are certainly NOT out of harmony with self. It would be like saying that Jo is out of harmony with the mind of Jo and Jo's words. See how silly that is? If a spirit tells you a thing and it is not proven with Scripture, then you best get away from that spirit. It is not the right Spirit. If a person tells you a thing and it is not Scripture, get away from that person. They are lying to you. If you think less of the Word, than of some spirit, you are out of touch with God's reality. God esteems his Word above all his name. That is Scripture. When someone tries to take you away from the Written Scripture, in any kind of way, you are listening to a worker of Satan. maybe even Satan himself. A few years back, (actually a long time back) a friend of mine, in the Jesus-Only church, told me exactly what I suspected. She said the Word doesn't mean anything to me, but only that Spirit. I am telling you all, this is total deception and will lead you into destruction. We are told to PROVE all things, hold fast to that which is good. The ONLY way of PROVING anything is, IS IT WRITTEN. If it is not written EXACTLY as Stated, it is lies. Now you may not know if it is written or not. It is up to you to study and find out. Pray about it. But do not make the mistake that somehow folks can know truth and it not come from the written Scriptures. That is saying a human mind can go above God's mind and get truth which God did not tell us. YOU ARE WARNED. You had better get into the Word and stay there. Accept only what is WRITTEN in Scripture. Reject all else. How can anyone believe that God gave us Written Scripture, moved on Holy Men to do all that work of writting it down. Many gave their very lives for this work. And then God up and says, you do not need to go by my Word any longer. Just listen to your own mind and spirit. Your own spirit and mind can lead you into more truth than my Word can. I have now done away with my Word, which I got men to write down for you to go by. Sound like God to YOU? God said I change NOT. Better listen to God and stop listening to these reprobates of today. Jo |
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Reply # 7 Huh ? Canz u explains tos me? Jo Eric __________________________________________________
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Freeborn, The seed of the women! That is why that scripture: "Moses spoke of me" kept going through my head and had me searching, searching for the scripture. Found it this afternoon. One of the references about the seed and how God said he would put something between them. Don't you see it? Man's seed (adam) (Man=Sin ). God's seed (Mary) (Jesus=Holy). I did not believe that Moses could have spoken of Jesus. But he did. Don't know much about what this child of Abraham's Ishmel did that he was not included in the Royal line up. Will read that later. That is why God had me stuck in Gen. This is hard for me to explain. I love it when God gives me revelation. PTL. Tweety |
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I do too, Tweety. Receiving revelation from God, even just one tiny thought, is the most exciting and glorious thing on earth. It brings heaven into the soul. Now Moses did speak of Jesus in many places. It truly take revelation to see it sometimes, but it is there in many places. One of the most revealing places is that in Deut, where he prophecied that God will raise them up a PROPHET from among their brethren, like unto Moses, and put His Words into the PROPHETS MOUTH. that prophet was and is JESUS CHRIST. Ishmael represents the law, or that first covenant. He was the child of the bondmaid, so could not be the 'heir' of Abraham. Issac, the child of the FREEWOMAN, is the true heir. Isaac is the true representative of Jesus, or Grace. So the bondchildren cannot be heirs with the freechildren. So all who cling to LAW, are the bondchildren, and therefore not the true HEIRS of God with Jesus Christ. we are heirs of God and JOINT-HEIRS with our brother, Jesus Christ. This is only possible through Grace, not by law. This is a glorious study. love ye, Jo |
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