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Church: Israel : The Seven Churches
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 Message 1 of 9 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22  (Original Message)Sent: 8/6/2006 2:20 AM
From: joie  (Original Message) Sent: 9/1/2005 11:08 PM
1.  Ephesus
 

Re 2:4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.

This is the first of the seven churches, not the Apostolic Church of Peter and Paul. That Church was the first candlestick and olive tree which was the first Witness.

This Ephesus Church came after them and had already FALLEN. What does this mean? Fallen? Paul said when they went back to LAW they FELL from grace. So we find in Galatians and Acts that the early church had already fallen back to law. This along with the fall of the OT was the first fallen of Babylon. She fell when Jesus destroyed that old law nation of Israel.



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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 8/6/2006 2:21 AM
From: joie Sent: 9/1/2005 11:12 PM
2. Smyrna
 

Re 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Here we find that the next Church had people in it calling themselves Jews but were of the synagogue of Satan. So the church was also the synagogue of Satan.

Re 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

See here that the devil was in that church casting the true saints into prison and great tribulation.


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 8/6/2006 2:21 AM
From: joie Sent: 9/1/2005 11:16 PM

 3.  Pergamos

Re 2:12 And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges; 2:13 I know thy works and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.

 2:14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.

2:15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate. 2:16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

Here we are told that the third church was actually the seat of Satan. They were dwelling where Satan dwells, where his seat was, in that church. They were teaching Christians to commit fornication against God. How? With the Nicolaitans which is the holidays of idol worship. Jesus said unless they repent he will fight against them with his sword.

Here Jesus begins anew to destroy this Babylon system with His Sword. Now I want someone to explain to me how the seat of Satan is in the church unless the church is the kingdom of Satan? How can that be? How could they be teaching fornication against God and be his true Church?

How could all of this be wrong with them if they are the true Church? Why were they killing the saints? They are the mystery Babylon, old law nation of Israel. They are guilty of all the righteous blood slain on this whole earth.

A ‘seat�?means a ‘throne�?where a king sits. So this shows Satan is the king of the church. He rules over them.


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 8/6/2006 2:22 AM
From: joie Sent: 9/1/2005 11:18 PM
4. Thyatira
 

Re 2:18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; .......

2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

 2:21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.

 2:22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

2:24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.

Now this church also taught fornication and idol worship. God gave her the space of Grace to repent in. But she repented NOT. So he said I will kill her children with death. This means the second death in the lake of fire.

So now we have proven that all four of these churches were not God’s true Church. See that many in this church had known the depths of Satan. Of course God did have a few true people in each of these churches.


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 Message 5 of 9 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 8/6/2006 2:22 AM
From: joie Sent: 9/1/2005 11:22 PM
5. Sardis
 

Re 3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write;......

3:2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.

3:3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

 3:4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments...

Now this is the fifth church. They had only a very few names there which had not defiled their garments or gone back into law and sin and idol worship.

 They had no perfect works before God. So I ask you, how is this the true church of God? It is the kingdom of Satan. Satan sits in the churches. That system is not of God. This clearly proves it.



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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 8/6/2006 2:23 AM
From: joie Sent: 9/1/2005 11:26 PM

6. Philadelphia

Rev.3:7- And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write:...

Re 3:8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.

3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie;

This sixth church was the best one of the seven. But it said they only had a little strength.

 Why is God saying here that there were people calling themselves Jews and were not?

Because the true Jew is the true Christian. So they were of the synagogue of Satan or false jews. Now do not try to say Satan does not have the synagogues. This has named it several times. 


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 8/6/2006 2:23 AM
From: joie Sent: 9/1/2005 11:31 PM

7. Laodicia

Now for that seventh or last of the seven churches: ( This is a total departure from how I meant to teach this message. God has led me a different route from what I set out to do. But let His will be done. That is one way I know for sure He is directing these messages. I prepared something different; but I prayed for his leadership. So here is a lesson on the Church system being of Satan. It is not what I intended to write tonight.)

Re 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

Now this seventh Church has not one good thing said about it. Why? Because it is down at the end of that age of churches and is totally corrupt just as the law age was totally corrupt at the end of it when Jesus came on earth.

This is a lukewarm, naked, blind, miserable church. And you say this is the church of God? I say not so, not for one minute. 


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From: MSN NicknameodailysSent: 8/7/2006 12:12 PM
It's also worth noting that Jesus himself is not inside the church of Laodicia, he stands at the door and knocks, and not too many people do this on the inside of a door!  Todays church has little to offer those seeking God, we must open the door to our own hearts and lives, and invite Christ in, and He will come in.
 
Sorry I have been busy working long hours this past week, and have not had much time to visit, but will again when time permits, in the meantime, I do read what comes to me by email each day.  God bless you.
 
Stephen

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 8/7/2006 3:30 PM
Hi Stephen,  I am so glad to see you here again.  I know what you mean about those long hours.  I have been involved with many long hours for a while myself.
 
But I had to give that job up because of the smoke making me sick.
So now I will be having only 5 hours a day, 7 days a week.  I do not like this set up either.
 
But will make the best of it for a while.
 
But I had been missing you and we do welcome anything you have to tell us.  May the truth come into all who desire truth.
 
God bless you,
Jo

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