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| | From: Freeborn551 (Original Message) | Sent: 8/19/2008 3:50 PM |
p.s. I just ran across this thread when intending to delete a few members. I saw that this is a good thread about that old law, so am moving it here to this law board: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: pillar (Original Message) | Sent: 2/3/2006 9:54 PM | Remember when the young man came to Christ and asked how he can inherit eternal life? And Jesus answered him as to how he interpreted the law and the young man said he observed them from his youth. And still asked as to what he lacked yet and Jesus said to sell all that he has and come follow him. But he was very sorrowful because he had great possessions and did not follow. The reason being that Jesus first asked as to how he interpreted the law was because his great possessions came from his interpretation. Not many that mighty in flesh are called for reason of not letting go of what they have observed from there youth and there interpretations. | |
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Wonderful INSIGHT, Pillar! How very true. This kind of 'spiritual' understanding is rare to the 'casual' reader of the Word. Guess we all ' mistook' that verse carnally. Thanks for the 'spiritual' interpretation and insight. Have a great day! Go with God! | |
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When you couple this with the revelation that the 'Law Covenant' (that old Tabernacle in the wilderness) and later, that magnificant Temple Solomon built, is the 'rich and increased with goods' Rich-man, the Church, (old law in disguise), then it is easy to see that the 'rich young man's' 'riches' is the knowledge and boasting of keeping this law. Yes! He had too much 'riches'--- or love for the works of the law, to come into the simplicity of the grace covenant of pure FAITH in the works of JESUS. Magnificant revelation! Thanks for this insight, Pillar. | |
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I prayed before I opened this message that understanding would come of what Pillar had written, in Jesus' name. Before, I had felt sorry for the man who could not give up what he had to follow Jesus. It seemed a sad story with a bad ending. Now I understand what the story meant. What a revelation! Thank you Jesus! "Spiritwalker" | |
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Whew! Glory. Yes, I too had the misunderstanding of the 'young man'. Funny how we see the Word as carnal, until God uses someone to open up the true Spiritual understanding of the Word! See, the 'rich young man', the one with the filled barns, the ones who failed to help the wounded man, and all such parables, are ALL speaking of the very same thing......that old death Law Covenant. I had the very same sadness about the ending of Lamentations once. I said this is the saddest words in the Book. But after God revealed to me that it is really speaking of the fall or cutting off of that dead, deceitful Law Covenant, which is the whore against God, then I saw that they are the most glorious words in Scripture.....for they reveal that God will NEVER EVER turn back to that old law nation of carnal minded, law keeping (but really law breaking) Jews or the carnal mind. Wow. Yes, that 'rich man' will end up where it rightly belongs....in destruction in hell fire. Then all that will be left is freedom of grace and LIFE......Eternal life. Praise His Holy Name for this great truth. Jo | |
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Heb 1:1-8 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. KJV The understanding of the rich guy is good to be understood. The riches of this world are religion. What does this mean to you? Jesus speaks to us as individuals, now the understanding is knowledge. You say that this is a thing that happened to a young fellow when he spoke to Jesus. Does it not pertain to you? If you understand and you are religious then is the word dead to you. If you can hear his voice and Jesus is speaking to you then you should examine youreself. Do you desire to be perfect and enter into the kingdom of heaven? What religious idols do you hang on to? Do you have a lot of knowledge, speak in tounges, baptised in water, follow the letter of the bible? Understanding what is said to the rich man is only knowledge, understanding what God is saying to you is more important. 1 Cor 13 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity. KJV | |
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The understanding of the rich guy is good to be understood. The riches of this world are religion. What does this mean to you? Jesus speaks to us as individuals, now the understanding is knowledge. You say that this is a thing that happened to a young fellow when he spoke to Jesus. Does it not pertain to you? If you understand and you are religious then is the word dead to you. If you can hear his voice and Jesus is speaking to you then you should examine youreself. Do you desire to be perfect and enter into the kingdom of heaven? What religious idols do you hang on to? Do you have a lot of knowledge, speak in tounges, baptised in water, follow the letter of the bible? Understanding what is said to the rich man is only knowledge, understanding what God is saying to you is more important. (Robbob) Well, Hello Robbob, It is certainly good to hear from you again. It has been a long time since you visited us. God bless you. Now How is it that you consider the teachings of the Apostles of Jesus to be the carnal letter of the Word? If that were true, then there was no need for the writing of the NT, was there? You are seeing this as carnal, when it is truly Spiritual. See, the carnal mind discerns the Word as natural, carnal, and the letter. But the Spiritual mind understands all of the Word as Spiritual. Where is any Scripture saying that the teachings of the Apostles were done away with? I just ask all who hold to OT law, which is said to have been done away with, (1Cor. 3) and many other Scriptures. But not one said that the NT teachings of the Apostles were ever carnal or done away with.......yet most people, of all denominstions, state that the teachings of the Apostles are not for us today. Upon what (Scripural proof) do you base such a rank statement against NT Salvation? Jo | |
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Notice, that whenever I put the spot on them, with questions, which if answered would PROVE that they are teaching lies against God's word, that they NEVER ANSWER ANOTHER WORD. IT IS ALWAYS THIS WAY. THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THAT THEY ARE BELIEVING LIES AND TEACHING AGAINST GOD'S TRUTH. |
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