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From: joie  (Original Message)Sent: 6/12/2005 10:49 PM

~Cain and Abel~

Today is January 1, 2005. It is a beautiful, warm day today. So very spring-like.

This is a good way to start a new year, by writing this wonderful message. I have been doing a series of messages about the origin of sin with Adam. God keeps moving on me to explore and teach this important and hidden subject. The more I learn, the clearer this truth becomes. I have proven that Adam is the old serpent in the Garden of Eden. I have proven that he is the evil one who deceived Eve. I have proven that Adam is the one who set up law and its animal sacrifices. I have proven that the law and these animal sacrifices and all that goes with it have always been an abomination to the true and Living God. God has solidly proven to me that Adam and Cain are the devil who deceives this entire world. Their lies prevail all over this earth today.

All of the holidays are worship to them which they set up on the other side of the flood. All such things as decorated trees, giving presents, and especially the graven images set up everywhere at Christmas time, are idol worship to Adam and Cain. This is the ‘dust�?which was their portion or ‘meat�? This is the way they are worshipped; with earthly, material, monetary things.

Adam and Cain set up the temple type worship. They set up large, beautiful temples, in which to have themselves worshipped. They set up the animal sacrifices as worship to themselves as gods. God was never pleased with any of this. He hates every phase of law worship. He hates the burning of incense, offering oblations, new moons, Sabbaths. Proof? Read Isaiah one. It is so full of revelation on this subject.

Isa 1:5 Why should ye be stricken any more? ye will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint.

Here God is speaking of the first HEAD of mankind, Adam and Cain. He said they are

sick. I know I have used these verses in many of my messages, but since I feel most people do not study the Word and are not familiar with this important truth, I do not feel it is wrong to continue to use these same Scriptures. Everyone needs to learn this chapter.

Isa 1:11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats. 1:12 When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts? 1:13 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and Sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting. 1:14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them. 1:15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers. I will not hear: your hands are full of blood. 1:16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil; 1:17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow. 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. 1:19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:

Now study that and see that God says he hates all the OT type of worship. He hates animal sacrifices, new moons, the calling of assemblies, burning incense, and all their other dust forms of worship. See that he said the same thing here that he told Cain; if you do well you will be accepted. What was doing well?

Seeking judgment, relieving the oppressed, helping the widows and fatherless. NT type worship. See that God told them this OT type worship is in VAIN. He told them the gospel back there in the Garden of Eden. This in Isaiah is the same message preached to Cain. But he refused and continued to bring people into bondage to law and man worship. He wanted to rule over them and be worshipped.

Isa 1:23 Thy princes are rebellious, and companions of thieves: every one loveth gifts, and followeth after rewards: they judge not the fatherless, neither doth the cause of the widow come unto them. 1:24 Therefore saith the Lord, the LORD of hosts, the mighty One of Israel, Ah, I will ease me of mine adversaries, and avenge me of mine enemies:

Adam’s princes, Cain and his other sons, were rebellious and refused the call into the NT worship of the true and living God. See that they had this love for gifts and rewards. This is the spirit in our modem day ministers = they think because they call themselves preachers, that everyone must honour them [worship] and give them many gifts of money and other material things. They do not help the widows. See then that God called them his adversaries and enemies!

Isa 1:28 And the destruction of the transgressors and of the sinners shall be together, and they that forsake the LORD shall be consumed. 1:29 For they shall be ashamed of the oaks which ye have desired, and ye shall be confounded for the gardens that ye have chosen. 1:30 For ye shall be as an oak whose leaf fadeth, and as a garden that hath no water. 1:31 And the strong shall be as tow, and the maker of it as a spark, and they shall both burn together, and none shall quench them.

Here God shows that every transgressor from Adam down to the last sinner will be destroyed together and burned together. They chose the ‘gardens�?of large churches and organizations, but see that their gardens from Adam down had no water. This shows they have not come into NT salvation of water baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of their sins. It shows they do not have the river of life flowing through themselves. Therefore their sin remains and they will ultimately be destroyed in God’s fire.

Adam and Cain’s temple worship [theater style], their set-up-on-high ministers, their Christmas [birthday] worship, decorated trees, giving money to them, carved images, and all such things are at a full head right now in our own time. So only destruction can follow. Just look around you right now at all the destruction in this world. It is going on right before your very eyes. Do you have ‘eyes�?with which to see? Can you truly hear the voice of Jesus? Can you hear the Word? Very few can.

As I explained in the message Adam, god of this world, Cain was a tiller of the ground. This does not mean he was out somewhere in a field plowing and planting a seed crop as most people think. It means he was bringing people into the bondage of law and man worship. His offering to God was the fruit of his own works of bringing people into their large theater style churches. He told them this is how to worship God, = go to church and worship man. Give us your money, set the minister up front in a ‘special�?seat above the brethern. He offered to god these deceived people who were into decorating trees, setting up their carved images of Adam, Eve, and baby Cain. God rejected this fake offering.

Is there any Scripture to prove the above statement? Sure there is, Jesus�?own words:

Mt 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses�?seat: [law]

Mt 23:4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.See that the meaning of tilling ground in Strongs means to bring people into bondage. This was their heavy burdens of law they set upon the people. Even your lavish, expensive Christmas junk is a heavy burden placed on you by this false god. It is worship to Adam. This is exactly why Nimrod and his wife picked back up this same lie that she had birthed a divine son. It followed this lie or false worship to men. They were following in Adam’s footsteps. They continued this idol worship to Adam. Then further down the road of time, the Catholic Church picked it up and hurled it into the churches disguised as the birthday celebration of Jesus Christ. It is a lie of the devil. All who continue this evil stuff are Catholic and worshipping Satan.

Mt 23:5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments, 23:6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues, 23:7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.

They do their works to be seen of men. This is the large fancy church buildings and all other material things they do. They love to go about in their suits and be noticed in the markets [all places of public gatherings, restaurants, stores, etc.] and be called “pastor�? ‘preacher�? Reverend, clergy, Chaplain, and other such words which correspond with the word ‘Rabbi�? But notice he said they love the UPPERMOST ROOMS AT FEASTS, [feasts means their church gatherings where they ‘supposedly�?‘eat�?the Word] and the CHIEF SEATS IN THE SYNAGOGUES.

Now that is Jesus�?own words, not mine. This proves what I have been saying about the pastors and evangelists loving to sit on their ‘throne�?chairs up on the stage in front [the uppermost room] to be looked upon with adoration and honour, which is WORSHIP.

Mark 12:3 8 And he said unto them in his doctrine, Beware of the scribes, which love to go in long clothing, and love salutations in the marketplaces, 12:39 And the chief seats in the synagogues, and the uppermost rooms at feasts: 12:40 Which devour widows�?houses, and for a pretence make long prayers: these shall receive greater damnation.

Now here another gospel writer said that the spiritual leaders love special clothing, salutations in the marketplaces, and the chief seats in the synagogues and the uppermost rooms at feasts. But notice he also said these same kinds of people devour widows�?houses [take their money] and for a PRETENCE make long prayers. In other words they are pretending to be holy and religious. But notice Jesus said these shall receive greater damnation. These wolves in their religious fake clothes tell us that there is no difference in damnation, it is all the same. They continually deny what Jesus taught and substitute their own false doctrine. This sooths their conscience.

Now you might say that is not ‘worship�? but what did Jesus call it

Lu 14:10 But when thou art bidden, go and sit down in the lowest room; that when he that bade thee cometh, he may say unto thee, Friend, go up higher: then shalt thou have worship in the presence of them that sit at meat with thee. 14:11 For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

Now here we see Jesus saying that to be set up in the higher room or place is the same as worship in the presence of them that sit at meat = those in the congregation listening to the Word. So see that I am staying exactly with the Written Word. Now if some of you who practice this [and all churches do] method of setting some up in the chief seats of the synagogues can show me one Scripture showing that this is acceptable and the way of God, I will rethink this. But until then I will believe what Jesus told me in his Word. Setting yourself up in that throne chair = the seat of Satan- is exalting yourself. Jesus said because of this he will abase you. So be warned, pride goes before that fall.

Eze 28:2 Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:

This Scripture is referring to that prince of God in the Garden of Eden. It is God’s Son, Adam. See that he claimed to be sitting in the ‘seat�?of God. This is how he deceived the nations into worshipping him. He led them to believe that he was the same as God.

Eze 28:6 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast set thine heart as the heart of God; Eze 28:8 They shall bring thee down to the pit, and thou shalt die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas.

Eze 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

Isa 14:11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.

His ‘pomp�?is brought down to the grave. Pomp? Strong’s Hebrew ft 1347--arrogancy, excellency, majesty, pride, proudly, raging. Now see this shows his pride that he lifted himself up as God. His raging is that he destroyed the world and its cities and his sanctuaries.

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, 0 Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. 14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

How are thou FALLEN from heaven. This is that fall which came after his pride. It is the doom of all who lift themselves up in pride and say I am Reverend so-and-so. I sit in the seat of God in the midst of the church. Yet you are in reality sifting in the seat of Satan. See also that they said this is just a man. It is not some mysterious ‘spirit�?

Re 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. Here we see God speaking to this fallen man. Remember from whence you fell. Remember the days before you lifted yourself up as God and repent or I will remove your candlestick. See that the churches follow that fallen serpent and they have also ‘fallen�? Babylon is fallen, is fallen. Satan, Adam, is the king of Babylon.

Re 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Now this proves Satan has the synagogues.

Re 2:13 I know thy works and where thou dwellest, even where Satan’s seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.



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From: joieSent: 6/12/2005 10:54 PM
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Now see that Satan’s seat is in the church? How much plainer could it be? See that Satan dwells there and is killing the saints? Satan dwells in the churches. So if Satan has his seat there and dwells there how could it be of God? If God never took pleasure in animal sacrifices, oblations, incense, appointed feasts or assemblies, new moons, Sabbaths, how could they be of God? If it is not of God, then it has to be of Satan. It is just too clear. So this proved the church system is not of God anymore than the law system was of God.

Re 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. 17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus:

This Babylon harlot was drunken with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. So who was the first Martyr? It was Abel, whom Cain slew. So this clearly places Cain as head of the Babylon city. Jesus expressly told old Jerusalem they were guilty of all the righteous blood slain on this earth, including the blood of Abel. So this clearly places Cain as the head of Babylon or Jerusalem.

Re 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. Re 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Now here we see the great red dragon, Satan, Adam was cast out or fell from heaven.

Re 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. This seven headed beast is the seven churches. The dragon gave him his power and his seat and great authority. Now see that Satan’s seat is in the church? This is how they have so much authority over souls of men. They are deceived by this dragon spirit ruling in this fake church system. Nothing of this church system is of the true God anymore than anything of the old law system of worship was of God. It is all the same thing. It is all devil, Adam worship. The church is the image of that first beast in the OT.

If you think not, go to every phrase of your church’s doings and check it with the Word. Is it of God [written and commanded by God] or is it of the world system? This is easy to do if you are honest. Is Christmas written in the Word? Did the apostles do this thing? Is Halloween written in the Word? Did the apostles practice this mess? Is Easter commanded by God? Was the World the one practicing this foolishness? Did the Apostles do this thing of hiding eggs, sun-rise services? If not it is of Satan, not of God. Is New Years celebrations in the Word? Did it come from Godly worship? If not, then it is copied from the World. Sure the entire world has their New Year’s parties. So the church copied it from them. They are into Satan worship, not God worship. It is the way Cain and Adam are worshipped. Which one are you worshipping? You better get serious about all this stuff if you desire eternal life!

Does the Word say go to church every Sunday? If so, where? What verse? Does the Word say go to church twice a week? Does the Word say go to church on Saturday? If so, where? Does the Word say get out and sell stuff and obtain lots of money for your church? Did not Jesus say not to go into merchandizing? Then why are almost all churches caught up in so much merchandizing?

If you are guilty of all this stuff in your life or church, and you think it is of God, then you better see it is not in the Word, therefore it is of the god Adam. He is the one given the dust or worldly things for his portion or worship.

Adam and Cain set up the OT Law system of worship. Then when the NT age started, they set up a false seven-headed church still using all the same old idol worship they had before the flood. If not, how is Satan’s seat in the church? You people need to wake up your sleeping drunken minds! The church system of today has taken in all of Satan’s vomit and loves it. You could not pry them away from this mess no matter what you try to show them. There are fake ‘holiness�?churches right today with their ungodly televisions and bring their ball games right into the place they call the house of god. It is an abomination to the Living God. Only Satanic worship could go this route. Some churches have sunk so low they allow people there with practically no clothes on.

This spirit of Cain and Adam is in all these pastors and evangelists of today. Follow the path of Cain and Abel to prove this or try to disprove it. Cain was a tiller of the ground. This means he was bringing people into bondage or enslaving them. He was causing them to believe that He and Adam were god and they had to worship them. They set up all these celebrations and fancy big temples of worship. They set up buildings of such grandeur such as we have never seen. They had such pomp as we have never seen. They were lifted up above all the others as someone great and powerful. This was their offering to God and God refused it.

So what about Abel? Abel was a keeper of sheep. Now all I have ever heard taught here is that poor Abel was out in some field taking care of some four-legged animals and that he eventually killed one of his sheep and carried its fat and blood to God and God accepted it.

So if God accepted this animal’s blood, then this crosses everything else written in the Word of God. If God had pleasure in this kind of sacrifice, then the Scripture in Hebrews which says he never had any pleasure in this lied. Who was the great ‘shepherd�?of sheep? Jesus. Then Abel was doing the same thing Jesus was doing. Abel was a shepherd of God’s sheep, his children. Abel was busy teaching people the truth and bringing them to the true God to worship Him and Him only. This is the sacrifice Abel brought to God, the people he had converted to God and taught them the truth. Abel was pleading for the widows and the fatherless and taking care of them. This is always spoken of in connection with acceptable worship to the true God. You cannot separate this love from true worship. Abel never devoured any widow’s houses. He helped them.

Abel was crossing the entire system of worship established in his day. He was crossing his own family. He was cut off from them because he stayed true to the Living God and refused Adam worship. He refused their pomp, their big feasts and celebrations and altar building and animal sacrifices and burning incense, and building big fancy temples. Abel worshipped in spirit and in truth. This is the only acceptable form of worship to God. So if God accepted Abel’s sacrifice, this has to be what he did. God changes not. If he does not like all these things today, then He never has accepted them. His way of acceptable worship has never changed. He has never accepted the blood of animals. He has never accepted these big, rich temples.

He has never accepted one man being lifted up above the others and being given flattering titles. You will never find where Jesus was called pastor Jesus or preacher Jesus or evangelist Peter or Dr. Paul. See? It is pride and foolishness.

Abel had taught his own mother, Eve, the truth and brought her back to God. She refused to stay in this false way of worship of the blood of animals. She had turned her back on that fake holiday type worship. How do I know? I know because she was looking for Jesus, the righteous seed to come. She is linked with the New Jerusalem, who is the Mother of us all. When she birthed Seth she said God has given me ANOTHER seed in place of Abel, whom Cain slew. Thus she had totally rejected Cain as her seed. This alone proves that she had turned away from the Cain/Adam false worship. This proves Eve was following Abel, not Adam and Cain.

Notice that Adam, the old serpent, was caught up in the love of gold and silver; money. He was full of merchandise. His city, Babylon, is a city of merchandise. This is his mark, the love of money. He is always into buying and selling. But notice Jesus was not into riches or the love of money. He was never involved in the buying and selling or merchandizing. He forbade this in his Father’s house. Make not my Father’s house a house of merchandise. Yet Adam is always linked with merchandizing.

Isa 55:1 Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. Isa 55:2 Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.

See here that this is Jesus speaking in prophecy? He said buy without price or money. So his kind of buying is not merchandizing. Also the thing I want you to see here is that the ‘fatness�?is not dealing with animal or human body fat. Most people can only see one tiny carnal meaning for words in Scripture, which gives rise to most false doctrines.

Gen 4:4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:

Now this shows that Abel brought all his converts to God and offered them to Him. He had fed them the good things of the Word, so they were delighting themselves in fatness. This is the fat thereof. The fat was those who had feasted on the good Word of God until their souls were delighted with the fatness thereof. It means Abel had fed the little sheep of God with plenty of truth. He was a keeper or shepherd of God’s sheep or children. These were the sons of God. They were not deceived by Cain and Adam. They were not into man worship. This was Abel’s gift to God.

Because of this work of God which Abel was doing, that of teaching people the real truth and rescuing them from the lies and deception and bondage of Cain and Adam, Cain hated Abel and was wroth against Abel and rose up and killed him. See Abel was taking people away from Adam’s false religion and bringing them to the true God. So he was interfering with Cain and Adams’s ‘traffic�? This is why the false pastors today are upset when some of us get into truth and start showing people they need to get out of this Babylon system called ‘church�? It will lead you into hellfire.

The church today teaches more lies and deception than any other organization on earth. They will be responsible for damning more souls and leading them into destruction than anyone else on earth. They promise them life, while all they give them is death and bondage.

Lets see from the Word of God if Adam is the one to blame for all the sin and death on this earth. 1 Cor 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

Now this plainly tells us that by this one man, Adam, death came upon us all. As in Adam all die. So Adam is the one who has the power of death. Adam is the devil. If you live after the first-man, human flesh, you will die eternally. Only in Christ shall we be made alive.

Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression. who is the figure of him that was to come. 5:15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one ~ Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. 5:16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.

Rom 5:17 For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) 5:18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. 5:19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. 5:20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: 5:21 That as sin bath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

Now there is the second witness that sin and death came about through one MAIN, Adam. It does not say by one spirit or one devil, it said through one MAN. Adam alone is to blame.

By one man’s offence many are dead. Death reigned over them all, even over those who have not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression. Now look at that. It is saying that Adam’s transgression is something more than the others. By this one man’s disobedience many were made sinners.

By Jesus, one man, [notice this did not say by one god; it said by one man] many were made righteous. So the comparison here is between two MEN. It is not two spirits. Neither one is considered to be a spirit. They are both men. So no ‘imaginary�?devil is involved here. It is a man. Adam is not a spirit. Jesus is not a god. They are both called MEN here. They are the same in nature. Almost everyone says that Adam fell because he listened to a devil and that he handed the earth’s rulership over to Satan. I want someone to show me one verse of Scripture which says this. Where is it written? If it is not written, where did they get this lie? Now another thing you need to see in Gen. 3 is that the serpent only talked to the woman. He is never said to have spoken to the man. The serpent never talked to Adam. Wonder why? I tell you why. It is because Adam was that serpent talking to the woman.

Job 31 is a discourse between the nature of Jesus and of Adam, Satan. Read it and you will see that comparisons are being made and showing the true nature of both these men. All the bad things listed are things Adam was guilty of Jesus is showing He did none of these things. Read this:

Job 31:31 If the men of my tabernacle said not, Oh that we had of his flesh! we cannot be satisfied. 31:32 The stranger did not lodge in the Street: but I opened my doors to the traveler. 31:33 If I covered my transgressions as Adam, by hiding mine iniquity in my bosom:

Verse 31 is speaking of the people wishing they had the beautiful, glorified flesh of Adam. Verse 33 shows he covered his transgressions and never confessed, therefore his sins remain and were never remitted. He died guilty.

Now I keep trying to nail down to you the error of the serpent seed teaching in our land. So here is something you should consider.

Mt 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 13:39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

The teachers of this lie like to use the verse which says of Cain that he was of the wicked one to say he was the son of some animal creature called a serpent. But now if this be true of Cain, then it is also true of everyone except the children of God’s kingdom. For see this says that everyone is either wheat or tares. The tares are ALL the children of the WICKED ONE. Now this is the very same words as with Cain. So if it means that Cain is the natural child of some creature called the serpent, then so is every sinner. They are all children of the wicked one. It is easy to see that the teachers of this ungodly lie have never taken any time to study the Word and prove or disprove this evil teaching. God will bring you into judgment for teaching such lies against His Word without studying to see what is true and what is lies. All liars shall have their part in the lake of fire. Better stop teaching your lies.

Read in 1 lSam:20- a type is there of how Adam led rebellion against God and pulled a host away to follow himself. Now one of David’s leaders went after this man to kill him. He was in a city called Abel. This leader besieged the whole city. A wise woman called to him and said this:

2Sam 20:18 Then she spake, saying, They were wont to speak in old time, saying, They shall surely ask counsel at Abel: and so they ended the matter.

Wont is an old English word which means something which is habitually done. Old time refers to the other side of the flood. Now see that she said in old time they used to say Ask counsel at Abel and that ended the matter. This is showing that Abel was so wise and led of God that when there was a controversy they would go ask Abel what to do and his judgment stood. This ended the matter or quarrel. See this proves that Abel was tending those little sheep of God. They trusted Abel and went to him for counsel and guidance. This is not the portrait of a man out in a pasture tending four-legged sheep. This man was a great leader of God’s people on the other side of the flood.

Heb 11:4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh. Faith. Without faith it is impossible to please God. The law is not of faith. Abel had faith which is the one and only way of pleasing God. By this faith Abel was offering a more excellent sacrifice to God than was Cain. Cain was under law, the blood of bulls and goats, therefore his works were not of faith. He was rejected by God.

Abel, being dead, yet speaks? How? If he is yet speaking, it has to be speaking faith; grace. Abel could not be speaking law and animal sacrifices today. God does not accept law and animal sacrifices, so if Abel is speaking to us today, it has to be the message of Faith, Grace. So this alone proves that Abel was into grace and not the works of law. It also proves that Abel was NOT tending four-legged sheep, for if this had been Abel’s acceptable sacrifice in his life, then it would also have to be what he is testifying of today.

Everyone who is in faith has found grace. Everyone who stays under law has no faith. Faith proves Abel was in grace. Each of the people said to have faith had found grace. By grace are you saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God.

Now to show a little more on Cain, let’s just see if the Scripture bears out that he was out plowing in a natural field and growing vegetables or flowers as the hirelings of today teach.

Gen 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

Now this proves Cain was no farmer. This proves Cain was into building big cities. The love of money is the ROOT of all evil. Adam is the father of all lies. Adam and Cain are the root or beginning of all evil. They were fully caught up in their lust for money. This city, Enoch, also proves Cain did not go to Nod until his death. He did not live in a place called Nod. His land is on the other side of death, where he is going to and fro right now. In this life, he built and lived in this city, Enoch.

Adam was perfect until iniquity was found in him. He never repented of his sins but he covered them up. God will never forgive sins until one repents and confesses them.

There is a link in Strongs Hebrew of Cain tying it to #7069. This word is a prim, root meaning to erect, i.e. create. to procure, espec. by purchase, to own. get, provoke to jealousy. Now I think this is showing that Cain was busy erecting huge temples for his and Adam’s worship. He was probably also erecting stature of themselves. This is prominent all through the Word as men lift themselves up for worship. They were provoking God to jealousy with their self-worship. It is the same today with the ‘ministers in our world. They are really the standing images the Word speaks of.

Now let’s just explore a little of the true nature of God’s ministers and that of the hirelings of Satan. lPe 5:2 Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; 5:3 Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being ensamples to the flock. 5:4 And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.

The true minister is to feed the FLOCK [of sheep] of God with the Word of God. The Word is our milk and it is our meat. Notice this said taking the oversight, but not by constraint. In other words they are not to COMMAND you to be at ‘their�?place any and all times ‘they�?are having their programs. They are not to lord over God’s sheep. They are not to take money for doing this work. If they do it becomes FILTHY lucre. Filthy lucre ONLY refers to taking money for doing a work for God, it never refers to receiving wages for labour out in the world. If a minister tells their people it is their DUTY to be there supporting them any time they have some get together, then they are constraining them which God said not to do. This is the sort of thing Adam and Cain set up to receive worship from the people. Everything is of God or it is of Satan. So this Scripture proves this system has to be of the devil and not of God.

The chief shepherd is Jesus. So this shows that the sheep spoken of in the Word of God is actually God’s children. So Abel was a shepherd of God’s children. He was feeding them the Word of God without pay or constraint. He was a true minister of God. Else God would not have accepted his sacrifice or offering.

lPe 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: 5:9 Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.

Now this verse shows that the devil is as a roaring LION. Remember I told you how God said the first head over mankind was Adam. And anyone who will be honest would have to know that this is true. It is clear in the Word that Adam was given the dominion over this earth. So this proves he was that first head. It is the LION kingdom in Daniel. But look what the Word says about this LION kingdom - it is roaring and seeking to devour all it can. God said to resist this spirit of the Lion, Adam. It is human flesh ruling over you and causing you not be subject to God.

It is also clear that Noah would have to be the next head over mankind. For at the end of that flood, Noah was the only person in this world who could have been its head. So Noah is the Bear kingdom in Daniel. Now watch this:

Pr 28:15 As a roaring lion, and a ranging bear; so is a wicked ruler over the poor people. Now see that this roaring lion and the bear are wicked rulers over the people. Remember that Noah

reverted right back to the ways of Adam after the flood. Where did this lead? That rebellion at the tower of Babel.

Ps 22:13 They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.

Now this is Jesus speaking at the time of the crucifixion. He is showing that those religious leaders of his day were acting as this roaring lion of Adam.

The word Ranging comes from the Strongs Hebrew # 8264 and means this: to course [like a beast of prey] to seek greedily>have appetite. Now this is showing that the bear kingdom of Noah was told to DEVOUR much flesh. It did this by means of that flood. It also means to jostle one against another. This also refers to the flood as the two societies were against each other at the flood. Noah’s head was jostling against Adam’s head and seeking greedily to destroy it. But now get this; it also means to run TO AND FRO. Now that is part of the punishment placed upon Cain. So see here this this ranging bear is part of this beast kingdom which runs to and fro.

God said in Eze. 20 that the offerings of those people was a provocation, an abomination, and a trespass against him. So all of this proves those animal sacrifices offered by the OT people, and by Cain and Adam could never have been of God. They are of Satan.

Until Pentecost the disciples of Jesus were still caught up in the Satanic type worship. Watch how Jesus corrected this out of them. They were glorying in the great temple buildings at Jerusalem. Jesus rebuked that. Then they were desiring to be greater than another. They wanted to sit on his right and left hand. He rebuked them for this. When Peter did not wish for him to die, but was savoring the things which be of man, Jesus rebuked this and called him Satan. This proves to be after the things of material things and of men is Satanic. So this is enough to identify almost every minister of today as one of Satan’s ministers.

By: Jo Smith

 


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 9/24/2005 3:48 AM
It may take some time,  but it will be well worth it, if you will study this message.  Do not remain in the darkness of these matters.  God wishes everyone to come to LIGHT.  See the TRUTH.
 
The truth is glorious.  Learn the truth about Cain and Abel.  It is important to understanding to rest of the Word of God.
 
Jo

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From: IsaiahSent: 9/24/2005 7:27 AM
jazz, have you not read where
Isa. 46:10 ---  Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

Can you see not what is happening now was happening on the other side of the flood? Can you not see that these pastors ( Adam) has set up these fine beautiful buildings ( temples) so they can be worshiped or looked up to?

 


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 9/24/2005 8:25 PM
No, Isaiah, he cannot 'see' anything, for he is totally blind; carnal.  The carnal mind cannot see anything Spiritual.  To him, it is foolish.  See, to Jazz, everything I say is foolish.  I speak the truth by revelation of the Written Word.
 
Jazz, just because you do not understand it, does not make it untrue.  If you could one time, in your own mind, stop condemning without understanding, and start opening your mind and at least try to understand, you might see something of truth.
 
Jazz, just because you do not understand it, does not make it untrue.
 
Now:
Have you never read in Heb. that God never at any time was pleased with animal sacrifices?  He never at any time accepted them.
 
Read Isa. one.  God asked them there,  who told you to do these things?  Who has required this?  God never at any time required animal sacrifices, nor man-made temples.
Sure, He told them what to do since they had chosen THEIR OWN WAY INSTEAD OF HIS WAY.
They placed themselves under law, which requires animal sacrifices.
 
No sin was EVER remitted by the blood of animals.  God has NEVER  accepted an animal sacrifice.  Abel did NO SUCH THING.
 
You could save all of this if you would  READ THE MESSAGE.  READ CAIN AND ABELREAD ANIMAL SACRIFICES.  READ THE LAND OF NOD.
But no, you do not want any truth.  You love your lies and car washes instead of the things of God.
Love not the world and the things of the world.  If you do, the love of the Father is NOT in you.
 
Have you never read that there is nothing NEW under the sun?  Everything on this side of the flood, was on the other side.
 
Sure God told Moses how to make that tabernacle......but, shocker....read Rev. 18---description of mother of harlots---it is identical to that tabernacle set up in the wilderness by Moses....read Exodus for full proof.....read my message,  Mother of Harlots.
 
You should read that Mother of Harlots if you never read anything else.
 
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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 9/7/2006 1:57 AM

<NOBR>Ge 4:11</NOBR> And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;
<NOBR>Ge 4:12</NOBR> When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.
<NOBR>Ge 4:13</NOBR> And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear.
<NOBR>Ge 4:14</NOBR> Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.
<NOBR>Ge 4:15</NOBR> And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.
<NOBR>Ge 4:16</NOBR> And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
<NOBR>Ge 4:17</NOBR> And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.


Gen 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

Now this proves Cain was no farmer. This proves Cain was into building big cities. The love of money is the ROOT of all evil. Adam is the father of all lies. Adam and Cain are the root or beginning of all evil. They were fully caught up in their lust for money. This city, Enoch, also proves Cain did not go to Nod until his death. He did not live in a place called Nod. His land is on the other side of death, where he is going to and fro right now. In this life, he built and lived in this city, Enoch.

See that Cain was cursed FROM THE EARTH, when God set his punishment or judgment.  Then it said God had driven Cain OUT from the FACE of the earth.  Cain said this is unbearable punishment.  Why?  did Cain THEN go into some other city on this earth, and find or have a wife there?  No.

 

It is not saying that.  when people read Scripture they read it all together as if some novel is being told, and that the events take place like 1,2,3,.  as told.  But that is just not the case.

 

The things of God must be SPIRITUALLY discerned or they will never be understood truthfully.

God is showing from the start to the finish, how the punishment of Cain is.  He takes it from the pronouncement of God to how it will end up,  BEFORE   he gets back to telling us how Cain lived.

It shows that Cain would leave the presence of God, be driven out of this earth, and then go into the Land of Nod, where he will roam to and fro, as a fugitive and vagabond.

This powerful man, who build the City of Enoch,  is not this man on the run as a fugitive.  That happened AFTER CAIN DIED.

After God finishes tellin us about Cain's death and punishment,  THEN  He goes BACK and picks up with  Cain's LIFE.

Cain knew his wife and had a son, and built a city and called it by his sons name.  After all of this, Cain died and went into Nod, where he is still roaming to and fro today.

Now that is the revealed truth of this matter.  Nod is Death, where Cain is ruling over it in sin.

Cain knew his wife long before he died and went into Nod.  Now I am quite sure almost no one is going to see this truth, for they cannot spiritually discern truth.  They see things from a natural, carnal view, and it leads them into darkness, same as it did to Cain and adam.

So far as I can find,  The Word does not say who Cain's wife was.  I do know for a FACT that there were many people in Eden.  I also found that they did not leave Eden UNTIL THE FLOOD AT NOAH'S TIME.

I am sure this is also hidden from people.

There were many people, before Cain married either his sister, cousin, neice or someone who had  decended from this same family.

I do not believe there were cave people ever.  the Word of God does NOT BEAR OUT SUCH STUFF.

The mark on Cain is the mark of the beast.  It is not some natural, literal, visible mark, as carnal minded people think.  It is that Cain was into buying and selling the things of God,  in other word,  church religion.  Making money off the things of God.  that is the mark of the beast.  People always look UP TO THESE LEADERS OF THIS MONEY MAKING SCHEME.  SO THEY TAKE OTHERS INTO BONDAGE OR SLAVERY TO THEMSELVES.  WHEN PEOPLE SAW THAT POWER IN CAIN, THEY WERE NOT ABOUT TO KILL HIM.

JO

 


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