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Adam; Satan : Proof that Adam is Satan
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From: joie  (Original Message)Sent: 8/1/2005 2:14 AM
From: joie  (Original Message) Sent: 2/26/2003 12:55 AM

 

~ Adam is Satan~

Rev. 12: 9. And the great dragon was cast down, the old serpent, he that is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world; he was cast down to the earth, and his angels were cast down with him.

Did not that old serpent deceive Eve? Is she not part of the whole world? Was not he cast out of the Garden? Where to? Think!!! People pray! Ask God!!!! Think!!! Now read this ~ Jesus' own words:

Matt. 23: 27. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! (religious folks) for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which outwardly appear beautiful, but inwardly are full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
28. Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but inwardly ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.


29. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye build the sepulchres of the prophets, and garnish the tombs of the righteous,


30. and say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we should not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. (here he identified these religious folks as the one who killed the prophets; of whom was Abel. Did not Rev. say all the righteous blood had been shed in Babylon? Is not Satan the king of Babylon? Is not this Adam?

you know it has to be. you know Cain killed Abel!


31. Wherefore ye be witness to yourselves, that ye are sons of them that slew the prophets. (see here is proof; Jesus said they were the sons of those that killed Abel- the prophets. So this identifies them as Cain, Adam, Serpents, devils.)


32. Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. (saying they will conclude and do just as their fathers, this includes Adam and Cain. you can't get around this and be truthful with this word of God)


33. Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how shall ye escape the judgment of hell?

Here he called those religious priests and Pharisees SERPENTS. He called them a generation of vipers (poison snakes)-- so is not this solid PROOF that they are the seed of the old Serpent? Is not their own word declare them to be the seed of Adam? How can you not see this?

 They are exactly the same line of serpents as was in that garden of Eden ---- so it had to be Adam -- or else you must declare that the Satan, devil (who ever that is - is their father).

People look at this if you desire any truth at all. Read this. think! Reason. If Jesus told those Pharisees that they were a generation of serpents and vipers, then they prove that Adam was the old Serpent in that Garden of Eden; for surely you know that they decended from ADAM.

If not then you fall prey to that lying serpent seed teaching William Branham brought up - saying Eve committed adultry with a creature between man and monkies, the serpent and from that she birthed Cain. Do you believe such FILTH; SUCH PUKE?

Well I can tell you this old girl does not believe such a filthy LIE.

For: Genesis 4 1. And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord. Now this plainly says that Adam was the one who 'fathered' Cain. I believe this word; not some false prophet teaching from that filthy Josephus.

 But now, back to our lesson: See If Jesus called those religious men of his day serpents, a generation of vipers, then it proves Adam was the first SERPENT; FOR THE ABOVE VERSE PROVES THAT ADAM WAS THEIR FATHER.

So if they were serpents, then it came from their father Adam. This proves beyond a doubt that Adam was that old Serpent; and John Said that old Serpent is the Devil and Satan.

 John 8: 44. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father it is your will to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and standeth not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof. (Jesus' own words - here he plainly told them their father was the devil.

Now can you just keep on denying this and blinding yourself and listening to his lies to this day? He was murder from the beginning -- now what is this? Cain killing Abel back there in the beginning. He is a liar and the father of it - this is when Adam lied to Eve and you shall not surely die

. 1John 3: 11. For this is the message which ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another:
12. not as Cain was of the evil one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

Now here John said Cain was of the wicked one -- was not Adam His Father? Yes, Moses said in Gen. 4 Adam knew Eve his wife and she conceived and bear Cain. You must Call the Whole Word of God a lie to deny this.

This is God's own word. not mine. It proves also that Cain of was of that Babylon city; for it said Abel's blood was shed there; this proves it was done by Cain; so Cain was king of Babylon with Adam.

This is Satan; read Isa. 14. This is positively ties together Adam Cain and Satan that no one can deny this any longer without knowingly calling the Word of God a lie; then you must also knowingly call Jesus a lie; for He declared those of his day to be serpents and the murders of Abel.

Can even one person still doubt this and believe Adam, Satan's lies; his subtility? God have mercy on your soul if you can! Now do you want to call the Word of God a lie? I will not.

I have proven right here by the Word of God that Adam was that OLD SERPENT WHO DECEIVED EVE. THE WORD SAID THAT OLD SERPENT DECEIVED THE WHOLE WORLD. EVE WAS PART OF THAT. HIS SUBTILITY IS SO GREAT, SAID HE WAS MORE SUBTLE THAN ANY BEAST OF THE FIELD ---- HIS SUBTILITY IS SO GREAT HE STILL --TILL THIS VERY DAY -- HAS DECEIVED ALL OF YOU INTO THINKING HE IS SOMETHING GOOD AND GREAT AND WONDERFUL AND NOT A SERPENT; AND NOT A DEVIL AND NOT A SATAN --

AND THE WOMAN IS THE BAD ONE-- EVEN HAS THE WOMEN THEMSELVES BELIEVING THIS HIDEOUS LIE EVEN CONVINCES MOST OF THEM THEY ARE NOT FIT TO TEACH THE WORD OF GOD.

YOU OLD LYING SERPENT -- I DISPISE YOU--- I REBUKE YOU IN JESUS NAME ----- I REBUKE YOUR LYING MOUTH -- SET THE DAUGHTERS OF GOD FREE---- IN JESUS NAME--WOMEN GET THIS TRUTH-- COME OUT FROM UNDER THAT DECEPTION--- THAT OLD LIE--- JESUS SET YOU FREE---- DECLARE THE WORD OF GOD OUT OF YOUR MOUTH TODAY AND EVERY DAY--- DON'T BE FOOLED ANY LONGER BY THIS LYING SERPENT ADAM.


34. Therefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: some of them shall ye kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city:
35. that upon you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of Abel the righteous unto the blood of Zachariah son of Barachiah, whom ye slew between the sanctuary and the altar.

NOW THAT FINISHES THE SCRIPTURE IN MATT. that we started with. look Jesus told that generation of vipers he was talking to (the priests and pharisees of his day) that the blood of Abel would be upon them. Why? They are the children of that old serpent adam and cain. cain killed Abel - so why is that generation of Jesus' day guilty of that?

Could only be one thing -- they are the serpents- decendants from adam---- they are the satans the devils.

How can one sensible right thinking person not see this? Adam, Satan, Serpent, devil, Lucifer, you are exposed today. You have been made known today; you have been revealed today by this word of God spoken by God's Son, Jesus Christ and by his daughter Jo Smith.

I, Jo Smith reveal today by the wisdom God gave to me out of the Word of God here in Matt. 23 that Adam is that old serpent the devil and satan. This word here proves it beyond a doubt.

Thank you Lord Jesus for this truthful revelation. No true child of God seeking truth can deny this. God will not let you. You would have to be blind not to see this connection here between Adam and the serpents of Jesus ' day; the ones he condemned to hell and convicted of killing Abel.

 

 


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From: joieSent: 9/17/2005 2:34 AM
From: joie Sent: 2/6/2005 9:33 PM

Eze 31:11 I have therefore delivered him into the hand of the mighty one of the heathen; he shall surely deal with him: I have driven him out for his wickedness.

Now here is another reference to the fact that God had driven him out for his wickedness. So again I ask where is any reference to anyone other than Adam being driven out of the Garden of Eden? I know of no other. I know of no Scripture which shows where God cast or drove out anyone other than the man, Adam. If you do, please show it to me. Where is a verse saying God drove Satan or the serpent out of the Garden? I know of none. It is not written. It is not true that there was a Satan or serpent other than Adam.

God never drove anyone except Adam out of that Garden.  So it proves that Adam is the anointed cherub in the Garden which God said he had driven out for his wickedness.  By one man, Adam, sin entered into the world, and death by sin.

S0 Adam is the one who fell from Heaven and the one who led the world into sin and death.  Adam is satan.  You cannot find one reference to God having driven Satan or serpent out of that garden.  He drove out the MAN, ADAM.

This is solid proof.  anyone who denies this will have to call God a lie.  God said this CREATED BEING was PERFECT in the day he was created, till iniquite was found in him.

Where does the Word show that God created a Satan or serpent?  It is lies.  God did no such thing.

Jo


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From: MSN Nickname†GraveRobber�?/nobr>Sent: 9/17/2005 6:33 AM

I fully agree with anyone who says all our words must be written in the word of God.  Do you believe this?  Or do you think you can just make up stuff which suits your 'idea' or someone else's idea of these things?

Joie, I have not seen you ONCE ever qoute from the King James, but yet you claim to believe in nothing else. If you believe in the KJV so much, why do you not believe when it is qouted against what you claim?

Then you say satan is an angelic being.  No, the word does NOT teach this.

Here, John states that Satan is the serpent from the garden of Eden.

  • Revelation 20:2 - "And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years," (KJV) Here, John writes that Satan is the Devil, the dragon and "that old serpent."
  • Revelation 12:9 - "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." (KJV) Again, John calls the Devil, Satan and "his angels were cast out with him."

Here, God says the the king of Tyrus a proverb of lamentation: 

Ezekiel 28:13-15 - "Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee." (KJV)

From Strong's Lexicon: CHERUB

03742 keruwb {ker-oob'}
 of uncertain derivation; TWOT - 1036; n m
 AV - cherubims 64, cherub 27; 91
 1) cherub, cherubim (pl) 1a) an angelic being 1a1) as guardians of Eden 1a2) as flanking God's throne 1a3) as an image form hovering over the Ark of the Covenant 1a4) as the chariot of Jehovah (fig.)

Therefore, Satan is the serpent, the serpent was in the Garden of Eden, Satan was an "anointed cherub," a cherub is an angelic being, a man is born; not created as an angelic being is, man are not perfect; yet God created angelic being to be perfect, thus Satan is an angelic being that entered the serpent and decieved (beguiled) Eve through his "subtilty."  

  • 2 Corinthians 11:3 - "But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ." (KJV)
  • John 13:26-27 - "Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped it. And when he had dipped the sop, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon. And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly." (KJV)

Satan as an angelic being has the supernatural power to enter and possess people just as he did in Judas Iscariot. How did he do this if Satan is an angel? Angels are from the spiritual realm and thus is a spirit as well. 

  • Ephesians 2:2 - "Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:" (KJV)

Again, how do I know that the serpent is Satan? Prophecy and Fulfillment

  • Genesis 3:15 - "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."
  • Romans 16:20 - "And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen." (KJV)

Thus, Satan is an angelic being who is of the spiritual realm and a spirit that has the supernatural powers to enter in other beings and possess them for a period of time. Satan entered the serpent, who was more crafty that than any of the beasts of the field, in order to decieve Eve and mock God and ruin God's plans for mankind.

Think of it this way, if the serpent was not Satan, then why and what purpose would a talking serpent want to decieve and tell lies to Eve?

Joie, I'm not going to argue semantics on the words "more" and "any" in Genesis 3:1, but I'll list five versions of the Bible so you can get the gist of what the verses refer to: 

  • Genesis 3:1 - "Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made..." (KJV)
  • Genesis 3:1 - "Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made..." (NKJV)
  • Genesis 3:1 - "Now the serpent was the shrewdest of all the creatures the Lord God had made..." (NLT)
  • Genesis 3:1 - "The snake was sneakier than any of the other wild animals that the Lord God had made..." (CEV)
  • Genesis 3:1 - "Now the serpent was more subtle than any other wild creature that the LORD God had made." (RSV)

Do you see my point? This verse in not saying that the serpent was not a beast of the field, it's saying that the serepnt is a beast of the field; and from all of them, the serpent was the most sneaky and craftier than all the other beasts of the field.

I have shown you through the Word of God, in the King James Version and Strong's Lexicon, that Satan is a cherub. A cherub is an angelic being. Satan can enter into other beings. Satan is also a spirit of the spiritual realm. Satan is the serpent from Genesis. The serpent is NOT Adam.

If Adam is Satan as you say, then how do you explain Satan going to God's throne and his councel in heaven?

Job 1:6-12 - "Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. 7And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it. 8And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? 9Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought? 10Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land. 11But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face. 12And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD." (KJV)


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From: joieSent: 9/18/2005 5:44 AM
GR,  talk about some mixed up mess?  wow!  what a mixed up mind you show here.  Now if you have not read my quoting the KJV, you have not read a message I wrote.  now I fully say this is why no one is getting any understanding,  none of you read my messages,  you just look at the titles and start rebuking it without knowing a thing in the message!  You judge it without reading it.  This is wrong and evil.
 
Now allow me to show you some of the many contradictions in your own words here:
You said:

Thus, Satan is an angelic being who is of the spiritual realm and a spirit that has the supernatural powers to enter in other beings and possess them for a period of time. Satan entered the serpent, who was more crafty that than any of the beasts of the field, in order to decieve Eve and mock God and ruin God's plans for mankind.

Think of it this way, if the serpent was not Satan, then why and what purpose would a talking serpent want to decieve and tell lies to Eve?


You said there that the  serpent is satan.........then you say satan ENTERED the serpent?  So if the serpent is satan, and you state this several times in this message...how then did he enter into himself?  See you are so mixed up you do not even see your own mistakes.

Now it does not matter to me what a dictionary says a cherub means.  it really is only a type to show what God's truth is.  You must find SCRIPTURAL meanings for truth.  I have done a message here proving by Eze. one and Eze ten that this cherub was the CALF on the four-faced living creatrue, which means the Christians.  That calf was Adam.

Again you said:


Therefore, Satan is the serpent, the serpent was in the Garden of Eden, Satan was an "anointed cherub," a cherub is an angelic being, a man is born; not created as an angelic being is, man are not perfect; yet God created angelic being to be perfect, thus Satan is an angelic being that entered the serpent and decieved (beguiled) Eve through his "subtilty."  


See there in the same paragraph, you state that Satan is the serpent.......then you say Satan is an angelic being that entered the serpent.  So I ask you, WHICH IS IT?  DO YOU KNOW?  tHEN YOU  state that the serpent was actually a beast of the field.  My my.  You are too mixed up on this subject to try and teach it.  Better be careful what you teach!  You are telling something false here!

And if this is true, the what were the Pharisees whom Jesus called serpents?  were they also angelic beings?  Were they beasts?  which?  do you know?  I say you do not know.

Adam was that creation which was the most beautiful, the wisest, and the perfect Son of God  UNTIL INIQUITY was found in him.

  By Adam sin entered this world,,,,and death by sin.....which means Adam brought death upon us. 

Adam is Satan, that old serpent.  He is the one who deceived Eve.  He is the father of Cain.  Cain was of that wicked one.  You might ought to read some of the messages I wrote proving this.  But you do not care enough for truth to study them.

You are like everyone else,  just parroting what you have already heard.  You do not study for any truth.  You have no place to receive truth.  I know your SPIRIT.  yes Adam's spirit still enters into people, just as it did into Judas.

Now why would Satan be there  with God and His sons to PRESENT HIMSELF TO GOD........GOD HAD SET UP A TIME FOR HIS SONS TO PRESENT THEMSELVES TO GOD......SATAN CAME ALSO TO   PRESENT  HIMSELF TO GOD.......PROVING HE WAS A SON OF GOD.

NOW CHEW ON THAT A WHILE.


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From: IsaiahSent: 9/18/2005 3:57 PM
Mt. 16:23 - But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Mr.8:33- But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men.

Here is 2 witnesses where Jesus called Peter Satan, now my question is also as has been asked. Is Peter a angelic being? Is he also a beast as Graverobber has suggested? Which is he? We all needs to know, so we can avoid him? 


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From: joieSent: 9/18/2005 7:20 PM
Jazz, idiot, we KNOW all of that....except the part for pastoring a church.  That is not in Scripture; neither is the part of being crucified up-side down.  I know people commonly teach that, but it is NOT proven by the word of God.
 
there is no such thing in Scripture as 'pastoring a church'.  Sure, God gave us pastors, but this is not even close kin to what you all have today as 'church pastors'.
 
Peter is said to have gone into ALL quarters doing the work of God.  So did Paul and all the others.
 
Now your CARNAL mind just cannot comprehend one single truth.  Are you flat DENYING the Scriptures where Jesus called Peter Satan?  Do you know more than God?  Or the ones who wrote the NT?  You sure seem to think you do.
 
Jesus explained right there that to be Satan meant to SAVOUR the things which be of MAN.....PROVING MAN IS SATAN.
 
Sure Peter was in a satanic mind at that time,,,,,,BUT HE SAW TRUTH AND REPENTED...AND QUIT FISHING....AND FOLLOWED JESUS AND PASTORED THE SHEEP OF GOD IN ALL QUARTERS.
 
Now the point is you CANNOT SEE TRUTH AND REPENT.  Food is set before you every day right here,  and you do not have the capacity to recognize it and are starving to death.  You are already dead, but headed toward eternal death, for full well you reject the council of God against yourself that you might be saved.

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From: joieSent: 9/18/2005 7:32 PM
<NOBR>Joh 6:70</NOBR> Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and ONE OF YOU IS A DEVIL?


Now was Judas a devil, or was Jesus all mixed up?  did he word this wrong [I am sure lots of you know more how the Word is to be spoken than Jesus did, or the Bible writters]

So was Judas a devil, an angel, a natural beast or just WHAT?  I am sure Jazz and graverobber has this answer, even if it misses the Word completely.  They can search literature, TV and such and find out this answer......or their cult leader has all the answers.....and that is why they are so 'knowledgable of the Word.'


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From: MSN NicknameSearERICSent: 9/22/2005 4:56 PM
Larry in all truth, this post has nothing to do with Adam! You are mixing apples and oranges and calling them soup.
Teach what you know, then you can be taken seriously.
 
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From: joieSent: 9/22/2005 5:10 PM
<NOBR>Ac 9:32</NOBR> And it came to pass, as Peter passed throughout ALL QUARTERS, he came down also to the saints which dwelt at Lydda.


Isnt this exactly what I said? Sure it is.

<NOBR>Eph 4:11</NOBR> And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, PASTORS and teachers;


Jazz, do a search.  the above is the one and ONLY time the word PASTOR OR PASTORS is even mentioned in the NT.

So where and how did you acquire the idea that Peter pastored a church?

James certainly seems to be more in lead there than Peter.  But then I suppose this is not told, so I do not teach it either.

Now if you will read Peter's books, you will be surprised to see that he wrote to the CHRISTIANS. not natural jews.

We the Christians are the JEWS.  When will you people learn this?  Study the WORD.  Peter said to the ROYAL PRIESTHOOD.  this can only be CHRISTIANS.


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From: IsaiahSent: 10/1/2006 3:15 PM
<NOBR>Ge 2:16</NOBR> And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
<NOBR>Ge 2:17</NOBR> But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Now to show you the what the knowledge is -
<NOBR>Ro 3:20</NOBR> Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Adam and  Eve fell fron Grace and went back to law. The law is the knowledge of sin. Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen FROM GRACE.

If you go by the law you are debtor to do the whole law and Christ is become of no effect unto you  

Let me explain something here ********

The Lord God commanded the man Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

In the Garden of Eden, before the partook of the tree of good and evil, Adam and Eve were alive, that being, that they were "spiritually" alive. And being spititually alive meaning they walked in perfection, and oneness with God. That is the meaning of true oneness, just as Jesus was one with God, so was Adam and Eve. Just as Jesus was one with the Father, I do only what My FATHER DOES, I say only what my Father says. Jesus and the Father were in true unity with on another. I and my Father are one.**********

On that day when they diobeyed God and ate of the fruit, they died a "Spiritual" death and sin entered in and they were sepatated from God. That is the death. For as in ADAM all die They died in the day that thou eatest thereof . If you partake of that tree ( law) whichs brings death,you are going to die.It is appointed unto man to die and after that the judgement.


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 10/2/2006 12:46 AM
Very good message, Isaiah.  If people would only study the Scriptures, and stop allowing carnal men to tell them how to believe, then they could easily see this great truth.
Now if they had never heard all of this, I could see their not getting it.
 
but since we have steadily proven these things for a long time,  It has to be willful ignorance.  They (the ones who read here a lot)  have no excuse to fail to see this truth.  It is that they do not care what the Word says, they are going to cling to their carnal thoughts, no matter what God has said.
 
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From: MSN Nicknamerollingstone444Sent: 10/8/2006 7:24 PM
there are two adams.  one is good, the other one is bad.  think it is the first one which is bad.  yep.  that just about proves it.

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From: MSN NicknameSearERICSent: 10/11/2006 4:54 PM
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Rollingstone why?
 
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From: MSN Nicknamerollingstone444Sent: 10/12/2006 8:22 PM
Cause the first-man Adam is the one we  must kill out in order to live.  the second man Adam is the Lord from Heaven.  so between these two adams, we have a devil and a Christ.

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