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From: joie (Original Message)

Sent: 6/3/2005 7:57 PM

Littleflock posted this on his board: I will answer his questions here and there, just as soon as I can.

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From: <NOBR>

LittleFlockofJesus</NOBR> (Original Message)

Sent: 4/23/2005 6:45 AM

*******FEEDBACKS ON ADAM & SATAN***********************

Now that is the true wonders and signs which follow the true believers? Which do you glory in? which do you live by? Which do you believe?
This will show you if you believe the lying signs of Satan or the true signs of Jesus.
Satan is very alive and at work. He is ADAM, MANKIND.
Deny it all you wish, you are believing a lie to be damned. I am teaching the TRUTH. <jOIE>
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jOIE, this is NOT true teaching. What you have all said here and about Satan is Adam is NOT TRUE*
I advise you, do not take Satan lightly..for you do not know him and his origin, and his original creation and for what purpose he was created. Adam is NOT Satan. This is foolishness!
Mountain of God IS NOT SPEAKING OF GARDEN OF EDEN.
Garden of Eden was created for Adam and his helper Eve.
Adam was NOT full of wisdom. Satan is full of wisdom and wiser than Daniel the prophet. There was NO SECRET HIDDEN FROM HIM.
Joie, keep seeking God and Savior, Lord Jesus because Jesus WAS NOT JUST A MAN. He was the Lord of hosts from Old Testament.
He is the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end.
He is the Chief Son of God, the Chief Angel Michael and he is the Man Michael in the Book of Daniel. Also he was the angel of the Lord*
There is the Father and the Son and the angels but i do not know any angels except Satan. It was like in this order.
Michael, Lucifer, Raphael, and Gabriel.
Michael who is the Lord of hosts who dwells on Seraphim and Cherubim was where Satan was seated. It is written as cherub, a guardian cherub. This is a throne where all knowledge and wisdom comes from...That is where Satan, Lucifer was placed. You could find the written word all over. It is written. And when Moses said about the Lord came from his holy mountain? This is the Mountain of God differs from the Garden of Eden made for Adam and Eve was NOT first created...There were creation before Adam and Eve. The Genesis briefly speaks of it. This things are the secrets of God.* He does not like to reveal it too much.
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Jeremiah 20 also said this birthday was CURSED. This is the two witnesses establishing this as truth. God cursed the birth of Jesus and blotted it out of existance, TO KEEP IT FROM BEING CELEBRATED.

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Jeremiah 20 says this birthday was CURSED? well, let me read that chapter and will get back to you what Jeremiah was saying...One thing i know this is NOT the Two Witnesses in Revelation 11. The Two Witnesses in Revelation 11 is these two.

Christ and Church.
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I said about Christmas a day set for celebrating the Birth of Christ is good thing which had turned all commercial.* I said it is good because even ..."The shepherds out in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. And an angel of the Lord appeared to them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were filled with fear. And the angel said to them, "Be not afraid; for behold, I bring you good news of a great joy which will come to all the people; for to you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord. And this will be a sign for you: you will find a babe wrapped in swaddling clothes and lying in a manger." And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God and saying, "Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace among men with whom he is pleased.!"<Luke2:8-14>
++When you listen to the songs like "Holy Night," do you not feel the presence of Holy Spirit within you? A Moment of Silence and great joy and inspiration...rejoicing and giving glory to God in the highest for the Birth of Christ is GOOD THING. Only bad it became commercial. in terms of "buying and selling"......its BAD* SCARY!

No one was wiser than the Son of God. God had set him in the highest place of authority and glory. <I HOPE THAT YOU ARE SPEAKING OF THIS SON OF GOD IS JESUS* ONLY* THE LORD*The Lord of hosts is his name!
They can hide no secret from this one, for He was there at the beginning of creation. <NO ADAM WAS NOT there at the beginning of first creation. NO, Adam was first man created in flesh! There are creation before Adam and Eve and i tell you both Jesus and Satan were there* and knows what had happened.

The stones of Fire means the People of God who lived in that Garden. We are called stones. The fire is the glory of God. <No, you are taking this scripture spiritually which has NO meaning. Why can you realize that Human beings with flesh are NOT like the angelic spiritual beings who has POWER* Real powers! Ask God about the powers of spirits*n and the reasonings of men, ...<Wisdom of Solomon7:20>
We are the STONES which adorn that Holy City. They were those beautiful STONES.
If you try to see this carnal, you will never see it. It is SPIRITUAL.
(No we are not the stones which God
says about the New Jerusalem. These are real precious stones all 12 of them will be there.
Just as God said to Isaiah 54: "O afflicted one, storm-tossed, and not comforted, behold, I will set your stones in antimony, and lay your foundations with sapphires. I will make your pinnacles of agate, and all your wall of precious stones. <Isaiah54:11-12>

I WILL TELL YOU MORE ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES ARE THESE
ISAIAH 53 & 54
ISAIAH 9, "For unto us a child is born, to us a Son is given. This Child and this Son is speaking of Revelation11. <9-11>
And Revelation 12 speaks of all three* The Woman and The Dragon and Michael who is Jesus they are same person*
Adam is absolutely the ONE AND ONLY ONE GOD CAST OUT OF THAT GARDEN. <yea, but the Word was NOT WRITTEN AS CAST OUT OF THE GARDEN. THE WORD IS WRITTEN AS CAST OUT OF THE MOUTAIN OF GOD MEANS ANOTHER. <THIS IS SPIRITUAL> God's Holy Mountain Moses spoke of as where, "The Lord came down from Sinai, and dawned from Seir upon us; he shone forth from Mount Paran, he came from the ten thousands of holy ones, with flaming fire* at his right hand. <Deuteronomy33:2>
God cast Adam out because he had turned WICKED BY LIFTING HIMSELF UP AS GOD. <You will NOT find any of this in the Bible*about Adam>
Adam still lifts himself up as God to this world. <NO, only thing Bible speaks of Adam is that he lived a hundred and thirty years, he became the father of a son in his own likeness, after his image, and named him Seth. <Genisis5:3>

He sits in the temple [our body] of God showing himself to be God. <no joie this is NOT SO* You got it backwards.

[if you live after the FLESH you will die]. The CARNAL mind is death, the enemy of God. Adam became CARNAL MINDED. <this is NOT Adam* It is speaking of that same old serpent the Devil or Satan.">

Now about knowing good and evil: LISTEN that LAW is the KNOWLEDGE of good and evil. By the LAW is the KNOWLEDGE of Sin, right? Sure.
NO, THE LAW IS NOT THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL. IT WAS THE TREE IN THE MIDST OF THE GARDEN* THERE WAS NO LAW YET BACK THAN...THE LAW IS WHAT GOD GAVE US TO OBEY AND KEEP HIS COMMANDMENT, HIS STATUES, HIS ORDINANCE SO THAT IT MAY GO WELL WITH US. MEANING STAYING OUT OF SIN* THE LAW AND THE SIN* you seem to hate the law, than you must love sin! Right?
Joie, i like you* You are like a little old fashioned woman who loves to teach God* Although we do NOT agree all times, I know that we both love the Lord our God* I LOVE HIM TOO...

THIS I MADE FOR MYGOD* MYGOD*
THIS I MADE FOR MYFATHER*

THIS I MADE FOR MYLORD*

THIS I MADE FOR YOUJOIE*

PRAYER MYFATHERPRAYER MYFATHER WHO IS IN HEAVEN...THE LORD GOD*

"The Father who is in heaven meets His children with Great Love and Speaks to them;....
TTT
~*By LittleflockofJesusmyLord*

From: joie

Sent: 6/5/2005 1:22 PM

Joie, keep seeking God and Savior, Lord Jesus because Jesus WAS NOT JUST A MAN. He was the Lord of hosts from Old Testament.
He is the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end.
He is the Chief Son of God, the Chief Angel Michael and he is the Man Michael in the Book of Daniel. Also he was the angel of the Lord*
There is the Father and the Son and the angels but i do not know any angels except Satan. It was like in this order.
Michael, Lucifer, Raphael, and Gabriel.
Michael who is the Lord of hosts who dwells on Seraphim and Cherubim was where Satan was seated. It is written as cherub, a guardian cherub. This is a throne where all knowledge and wisdom comes from...That is where Satan, Lucifer was placed. You could find the written word all over. It is written. [Littleflock]

OK. Lets take this one thing at a time. Now I am asking proof from you on your statements. I have proven my teaching with Scripture. Now it is your turn.

You say Jesus was the Lord of Hosts from the Old Testament. Where is your proof? Where is even one verse stating this? If it is not written, it is a lie. Then you are guilty of ADDING to the Word of God. This is a sin punishable by eternal death in hell. Want to continue making unfounded statements about God?

You say Jesus is the chief Son of God? Again where is this written in the Word?

You say Jesus is the man Michael, the angel Michael. Prove this with Scripture. It is not in the Word. If so, then please explain to us how Michael left Heaven and got into Mary's womb? Did he cease to be Michael, an angel, while on earth, then become Michael again after he ascended back to heaven?

After all, the Word plainly teaches that Jesus was a human being, made of the seed of both David and Abraham. IN Hebrews it plainly says HE TOOK NOT ON HIM THE NATURE OF AN ANGEL, BUT WAS MADE LOWER THAN THE ANGELS....

So this proves Jesus was NOT AN ANGEL, HE WAS NOT MICHAEL. So now, where are you? Give me proof! If you cannot prove it, you best start looking for truth and believing TRUTH.

Did Michael, the angel, cease to exist while Jesus was here as a human man? How then did he re-appear? [Oh I know you will not try and answer any of this. Every time I do this, point out these things and how far off they are from the truth, whoever it is, they run like a scarred rabbit.]

I have yet to see one person answer the questions which would show and prove they are believing and teaching lies. Yet they overlook the fact that God will bring them into judgment and hell for this error of changing and adding to his Word.

Michael is lord of Hosts? Where is proof of this? I know of none. He was seated on Seraphem where Satan was seated? My goodness! Where in the world did such a statement come from? I challenge you to give me one verse of Scripture saying this thing. Shew! You sure do not mind adding your own thoughts to God's Word! I would fear greatly to say such things without one single verse to back it up.

....This is a throne where all knowledge comes from? HUH? And this is where Satan was placed? Are you sure? Where did you acquire this kind of 'knowledge' from?

Satan was placed where all knowledge and wisdom comes from? MY, you sure have a high oppinion of the wicked one, don't you?

You said this is written all over......then give me just ONE VERSE SAYING THIS. I have never read it, and I study the Word extensively and have for more years than you have lived.

So now, the burden of proof is on you. Go ahead. Give me some proof from the Word of God saying any of this stuff.

From: joie

Sent: 6/5/2005 1:27 PM

There is the Father and the Son and the angels but i do not know any angels except Satan. It was like in this order.
Michael, Lucifer, Raphael, and Gabriel. [Littleflock]

.....in this order, huh? Michael, Lucifer, Rapheal, and Gabriel.

I ask, how do you know that? Where is any proof?

Who is this RAPHAEL? I did a search and this word is NOT in Scripture, so where did you acquire this kind of 'knowledge' from?

Who told you this is the order of angels? Seems to me, you are full of adding to God's Word. Maybe you think God has it all wrong, and you need to tell Him how it is?

From: joie

Sent: 6/5/2005 1:31 PM

There were creation before Adam and Eve. The Genesis briefly speaks of it. This things are the secrets of God.* He does not like to reveal it too much. [Littleflock]

OK, Now. Please give me Scripture saying there was a creation before Adam and Eve.

I know of none. Genesis speaks briefly of it? Where? Please give me those verses. God does not like to reveal too much? where did you acquire this 'knowledge'?

What makes you think God does not like to reveal it too much? Are you telling us things about God that He did not tell? Then you are GUILTY OF ADDING TO HIS WORD.........HE SAID IF YOU DO THIS,,,,,,,YOU ARE FOUND A LIAR.

All liars will be in the lake of fire! Have you no fear of adding this much to the Word of God?

From: joie

Sent: 6/5/2005 1:40 PM

Jeremiah 20 says this birthday was CURSED? well, let me read that chapter and will get back to you what Jeremiah was saying...One thing i know this is NOT the Two Witnesses in Revelation 11. The Two Witnesses in Revelation 11 is these two. [littleflock]

Now, you have called everything I wrote wrong, yet I gave written Scripture for every word I said. You gave no Proof of anything you said. You made many false statements in this post, yet you call my words wrong.

When I said this is the two witnesses proving the birthday of Jesus was cursed, I was certainly NOT referring to the two witnesses in Rev. 11.

What I am saying is this: God said --In the mouth of two or three witnesses let EVERY WORD BE ESTABLISHED.

Now what this means is that UNLESS YOU CAN FIND AT LEAST TWO DIFFERENT SCRIPTURES SAYING ANYTHING, THEN YOU ARE WRONG.

I found two Scriptures, two different writters in the Holy Word, saying that the birthday of Jesus was cursed....so this ESTABLISHES IT AS TRUTH.

Now you deny this....so go find two Scriptures saying we should bless and celebrate the birthday of Jesus. I challenge you! And all the rest of you also.

Go find one verse saying to do this silly, evil mess. And if God said to celebrate the birthday of Jesus, then what day did He say to do this on? Can you just accept made up junk like this and call it of God? or expect God to accept it? I say NO!

From: joie

Sent: 6/5/2005 1:47 PM

I said about Christmas a day set for celebrating the Birth of Christ is good thing which had turned all commercial.* I said it is good because even [LITTLEFLOCK]

OK now. Go find at least ONE verse saying celebrating the birth of Christ is a good thing.

Prove it by the Written Word. If God did not command us to do this, it is evil. It is idolatry.

Find the word Christmas in the Word of God. It is not there. Find one place showing that any Apostle or disciple of Jesus ever did this thing. Show where Mary, his mother, ever did this thing.

Show where Jesus did it or told anyone to do it. What are you basing this on, that it is good? If none of these Godly men, who wrote the Word for us, did this thing, nor told us to do it, then how do you justify it?

You better wake up and do some studying if you wish to have eternal life. You are FULL of error (lies) and false doctrine. This is not saving grounds.

Those shepherds did NOT CELEBRATE any birthday of Jesus. Neither did the wise men. It is not written in the Word. Sure, rejoicing that Jesus was born to save us is fine, but this world's foolish junk they call Christmas is devil worship and God forbids it.

Deut. 12.

From: joie

Sent: 6/5/2005 1:52 PM

<NO ADAM WAS NOT there at the beginning of first creation. NO, Adam was first man created in flesh! There are creation before Adam and Eve and i tell you both Jesus and Satan were there* and knows what had happened. [littleflock]

Adam was not at the beginning of first creation? Prove it! there are creation before Adam and Eve..........? Prove it.

Jesus and Satan were there and knows what happened? Prove it.

You are so full of lies and error and wrong thoughts, I say you had better start all over and start studying the Word of God and learn what it truly says.

Your soul is in full danger of going to hellfire, unless you repent of these lies and come to love and accept the truth of God's Word. With this much mess running around in your mind, you know not one truth. You better get willing to start studying and learn what the Word of God teaches. You are fully missing the truth.

From: joie

Sent: 7/24/2005 12:13 AM

Thank God for His Amazing Grace.

Hi, Littleflock, You left before you saw this thread. So I am sending it back to the front page so you can see this and ANSWER all my questions.

IF YOU HAVE TRUTH, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND SCRIPTURE FOR ALL YOU SAID HERE.

I WILL WAIT TO SEE AN ANSWER FROM YOU. WHEN YOU SEE THAT YOU CANNOT find even one verse for any of those things you said, WILL YOU BE HONEST ENOUGH WITH GOD TO ADMIT YOU ARE NOT SEEING TRUTH AND START SEEKING FOR TRUTH?

If not, you will lose your soul. Only those who seek and find and love truth will be saved.

so get to work; find me those verses proving your teachings. else, you best stop teaching lies.

Do you have scriptural references to what you said here?

Satan is full of wisdom and wiser than Daniel the prophet. There was NO SECRET HIDDEN FROM HIM.

I understand when you say there was a creation before Adam & Eve. It was the Pre-Adamites. Dake teaches on that. ( Tweety)

I really need scriptural references for what you are trying to say. I have not read about no CREATION BEFORE ADAM AND EVE. Also no Adamites, where is this written?

Freeborn, i tried to email Littleflock, but it came back, and said [email protected] Account Inactive. Would luv to know what happened to him/her.

Pre-Adamites? It is a belief by Finis J. Dake and others that the earth was inhabited by Lucifer and his angels(Angels that had left Heaven with him) They are referred to as the sons of god. The belief is that they inhabited the earth before Adam and Eve.

Scriptural references? There are tons of them. It starts in the book of Gen. I know that you will not want me to start such a long discussion like that here. Blessings. Tweety

From: <NOBR>Tweety134</NOBR> Sent: 10/19/2006 9:48 PM

Dear Isaiah,

Pre-Adamites? It is a belief by Finis J. Dake and others that the earth was inhabited by Lucifer and his angels(Angels that had left Heaven with him) They are referred to as the sons of god. The belief is that they inhabited the earth before Adam and Eve.

Scriptural references? There are tons of them. It starts in the book of Gen. I know that you will not want me to start such a long discussion like that here. Blessings. Tweety

Where is any of this written? Surely not the KJV.

Where is any of this written? A belief of a man, we can not go by what man believes, but must go by the word of God.

Where is any of this written? that the earth was inhabited by Lucifer and his angels(Angels that had left Heaven with him) They are referred to as the sons of god. The belief is that they inhabited the earth before Adam and Eve.

I need scriputal references.

PROVE all things, with the written Word, not Finis J. Dake.

Finis Dake gives scriptural references for everything he says. And it is a KJV Bible.

Let me get reading on the Pre-Adamites. And I will get back to you. Tweety

There are no Scripture referrences for that pre-Adam period. If Dake teaches this, he is making up something, because of something in the Word which he had no revelation on.

If you study the Word and pray and allow God to talk to you, you will come to see that Adam IS LUCIFER, SATAN.

There is no other being who could be satan, but Adam.

That thing Dakes thinks is a pre-adam era, is actually the life of Jesus Christ. Gen. one.

the cursed birthday? --read Job three and Jer. 20. also Jer. 10.

(btw) littleflock is not here now. he got mad at me and left. He is my son-in-law, although he thinks he deceived me. but I know it.)

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