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From: joie2 Jer. 31: | Sent: 12/13/2004 8:22 PM | 6 For there shall be a day, that the watchmen upon the mount Ephraim shall cry, Arise ye, and let us go up to Zion unto the LORD our God. The word ARISE signifies RESURRECTION. See? The watchmen [true ministers] cry, Arise ye. This is the call to resurrection. See........let us GO UP to Zion UNTO THE LORD OUR GOD. This is the catching up of the saints = it is the resurrection. GLORY. | I am moving some short messages here from the one Isaiah started on the Prophecy of the New Covenant. These are revelations I received from reading that message. |
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From: joie2 | Sent: 12/13/2004 8:31 PM | 8 Behold, I will bring them from the north country, and gather them from the coasts of the earth, and with them the blind and the lame, the woman with child and her that travaileth with child together: a great company shall return thither. [Larry, here is another place which makes me think the north represents Heaven. Look, this fits where it says when he comes the saints will come with him. Then they are joined with all those still alive on this earth, those travailing with child to bring forth Christ in our lives]. the blind and the lame were those of us Gentiles before Christ opened up our eyes and healed us. This is the resurrection!] 9 They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn. 10 Hear the word of the LORD, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock. [this speaks of our conversion to Christ; the weeping and supplications. Then he leads us by the rivers of waters of LIFE, in that straight narrow way which leads to eternal life. He gathered Israel at Pentecost and is keeping us until that last day, when we flee the last time; into his waiting arms, into glorification; into the kindom of Heaven; into the resurrection.] 11 For the LORD hath redeemed Jacob, and ransomed him from the hand of him that was stronger than he. [ransomed him for the hand of him that was stronger than he.....death was stronger than he......Satan was stronger than he.....but Jesus ransomed us from that land of death. This is resurrection!] 12 Therefore they shall come and sing in the height of Zion, and shall flow together to the goodness of the LORD, for wheat, and for wine, and for oil, and for the young of the flock and of the herd: and their soul shall be as a watered garden; and they shall not sorrow any more at all. [This is the resurrection.....see when we sorrow no more. It also speaks of the NT salvation. this is resurrection!] | |
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From: joie2 | Sent: 12/13/2004 8:33 PM | 13 Then shall the virgin rejoice in the dance, both young men and old together: for I will turn their mourning into joy, and will comfort them, and make them rejoice from their sorrow. [this is resurrection.] | |
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From: joie2 | Sent: 12/13/2004 8:35 PM | 17 And there is hope in thine end, saith the LORD, that thy children shall come again to their own border. '[This is resurrection. Wow. seems this is another 'resurrection chapter!'] | |
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From: joie2 | Sent: 12/13/2004 8:39 PM | 19 Surely after that I was turned, I repented; and after that I was instructed, I smote upon my thigh: I was ashamed, yea, even confounded, because I did bear the reproach of my youth. 20 Is Ephraim my dear son? is he a pleasant child? for since I spake against him, I do earnestly remember him still: therefore my bowels are troubled for him; I will surely have mercy upon him, saith the LORD. The reproach of my youth????? This is the human stage of Adam. All of us. Ephraim here is the human race. God spoke against it in the first Adam.......but them he remembered his creation......[all of creation is Adam; lucifer] God has mercy upon him = those of us who repent and obey him.....that part of the Ephraim, or youth, or human kingdom, who repent. This is also resurrection. What a revelation! Thank you Lord Jesus. When I feel more like it, I hope to copy all of these short messages into one and use them in my new message proving Adam is Satan. | |
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From: joie2 | Sent: 12/13/2004 8:43 PM | 18 I have surely heard Ephraim bemoaning himself thus; Thou hast chastised me, and I was chastised, as a bullock unaccustomed to the yoke: turn thou me, and I shall be turned; for thou art the LORD my God. More.....that chastisement was being placed into mortal flesh. This is that 'yoke' he was unaccustomed to. The repentant ones call out, Turn thou me, and i shall be turned. These are the ones who find salvation. This YOKE of human flesh is what we are tied, or bound to, or yoked up with. Larry. This is the YOKE. It is mortal, human flesh. Adam was not accustomed to that before his fall. We have to work together with the flesh and bring it into subjection to the Christ it is yoked to [inside us]/ Wow. No wonder I love the revelation of the Word of God!! | |
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From: joie2 | Sent: 12/13/2004 8:54 PM | 22 How long wilt thou go about, O thou backsliding daughter? for the LORD hath created a new thing in the earth, A woman shall compass a man. [A woman shall COMPASS a man!] compass -- from Strong's #5437--= to surround, revolve or border. It also has a meaning to lead. Now this shows that our outer man, the female part, surrounds the inner MAN, the Christ. This is the only hope of salvation; that your 'woman' compasses your 'man'.] 23 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; As yet they shall use this speech in the land of Judah and in the cities thereof, when I shall bring again their captivity; The LORD bless thee, O habitation of justice, and mountain of holiness. [here it is speaking of resurrection. See, he brought again their captivity of being yoked to mortal flesh. Now they are called a mountain of HOLINESS. So it had to be resurrection.] 24 And there shall dwell in Judah itself, and in all the cities thereof together, husbandmen, and they that go forth with flocks. 25 For I have satiated the weary soul, and I have replenished every sorrowful soul. [this also speaks of the NT ministers who sent out the Holy Ghost message.] 26 Upon this I awaked, and beheld; and my sleep was sweet unto me. [AWAKE means RESURRECTION. This is the RESURRECTION] 27 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of man, and with the seed of beast. 28 And it shall come to pass, that like as I have watched over them, to pluck up, and to break down, and to throw down, and to destroy, and to afflict; so will I watch over them, to build, and to plant, saith the LORD. [this is resurrection and the New Earth. God is now punishing the Adam race. Now He will build us up eternally. Glory!] | |
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Joie, these are some really good messages. I read this last night before going to bed and as I lay in the bed and I begin to think on these messages I began to wonder about if this is not what happened in the beginning with Adam and Eve. Exodus 20 | - 20:25
- And if thou wilt make me an altar of stone, thou shalt not build it of hewn stone: for if thou lift up thy tool upon it, thou hast polluted it.
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- Neither shalt thou go up by steps unto mine altar, that thy nakedness be not discovered thereon.( As I read this in the message that you did above, I saw that this was the church before I even read what you were saying about this.)
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- Is this how Adam and Eve became naked? The 1st place that naked is mentioned in the Bible is in the Garden.
- Ge 2:25 - And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed. Is this how that they polluted it? Did they make an altar of stone? I believe this is what happened in the Garden joie.
I know this is what happened to the Laodicean Church. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: Jesus said in Mark 13:1 And as he went out of the temple, one of his disciples saith unto him, Master, see what manner of stones and what buildings are here! 2 And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. He also said in Luke 21:5 And as some spake of the temple, how it was adorned with goodly stones and gifts, he said, 6 As for these things which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. So this is what happened in the garden. This is how they became naked. Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times . So if this is what is going on in Revelation with the Laodicean Church this is what had to happen with Adam and Eve in the book of Genesis and this is how they became naked. | | |
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From: joie2 | Sent: 12/14/2004 9:27 PM | Yes, Larry, that is very true and good thinking. I went to bed thinking on this also and seeing more into this. We are acquiring a full picture of what truly happened with Adam and Eve. This part goes along with that in Isaiah 65 and 66 of where they killed and sacrificed a pig for their sanctification. See, they always made an altar for this business of sacrifice. Everything we are finding by revelation, which points to what they did is all coming together. Yes, they would have defiled their altar this way, for they were in complete rebellion to God. at least Adam was. Eve was deceived and just going along with what Adam said, for she thought he knew the truth. To lift up your own instrument on the stones is to try to make up your own plan of salvation instead of going God's chosen way. See Peter taught that the Christians are living STONES to go into His temple. So in order to be placed into this spiritual temple, we must go God's way; = not lift up our own took upon it. All these churches are guilty of lifting up their own aganda, or tool upon it. They made up a new plan to come to God by. Some say, just shake the preachers hand, say I believe in Jesus or ask forgiveness of sins and you have it. This is a form of lifting up your own 'tool' upon this stone. It is now polluted. So Adam and Eve built this altar of polluted stone. They became defiled or naked. I received more ont all of this today, but it takes up so much time to write it, I just can't get it all typed up. Jo | |
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I have just read all of the thread. There is much good and deep food here for the sheep of God. Everyone would do well to study this out. It is some glory and deep revelation of the Word of God. Very few ever really expound the Scriptures this way. They just make up little speeches in order to fill their allotted 30 minutes in the church. such a shamful display against God and His word! Jo |
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