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Adam; Satan : The CHERUB explained
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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 9/10/2006 1:39 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn22</NOBR>  (Original Message) Sent: 8/26/2006 9:57 PM
Now I will do one more tonight, then go to bed.  I am very tired today.  worked on cutting down limbs and brush till I bout dropped today.
 
Now I know this is very confusing to people,  so I will show you this one.  Then I want you to find me one of your referrences which does indeed call Satan an angel.
 
Now I want to show you what a cherub really is;  it is not an angel, as most people think.  This is why we must find answers in Scripture, no other source.  This is all important to finding truth.
 
<NOBR>Eze 1:5</NOBR> Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man. (not an angel)

Notice, it said this living creatrue has the appearance of a   MAN,  not an angel.

Now know that God is also said to have wings.  so wings here only means God's power.  it is not literal wings such as birds have.  that is carnal mindedness.

<NOBR>Eze 1:7</NOBR> And their feet were straight feet; and the sole of their feet was like the sole of a calf's foot: and they sparkled like the colour of burnished brass.


Notice this creature's feet were straight and like a calf's foot.  I will show you why in a minute.

<NOBR>Eze 1:10</NOBR> As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.


Now take careful notice of these four faces of this living creature.  They show the nature of the mature Christian.

1. a man

2. a lion

3.ox

4. eagle

I have a long message explaining all of this.  Someday I hope to take that off tape and type it up.  but for now, I will do a quickie of this.

<NOBR>Eze 1:24</NOBR> And when they went, I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters, as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host: when they stood, they let down their wings.


see their wings were the sound of great waters, as voice of the Almighty,  it was a HOST.  (lots of people)  This is the same as in Rev. when it said the sound of mighty waters as the voice of the Almighty as many people speaking his words.  it is the same thing!  so see that their wings shows this SPEACH,  not feathers.

Now:

<NOBR>Eze 10:5</NOBR> And the sound of the cherubims' wings was heard even to the outer court, as the voice of the Almighty God when he speaketh.


There it is again, proving that these Cherubims are God's people!

<NOBR>Eze 10:14</NOBR> And every one had four faces: the first face was the face of a cherub, and the second face was the face of a man, and the third the face of a lion, and the fourth the face of an eagle.
<NOBR>Eze 10:15</NOBR> And the cherubims were lifted up. This is the living creature that I saw by the river of Chebar.


Now there is your proof.  See this is the same living creature he saw by the river in chapter one.

they had four faces:

1. cherub

2. man

3. lion

4.  eagle

Now what is changed?  the OX is changed and called the cherub.

Do you think this OX could be an angel?  If so, what about this MAN, lion, and eagle?  Are they also angels?  After all, they are on the same living creature!

now you see why is foot was a calf's foot?  this was the OX.  the OX is the same as the cherub.

Now the next time we see these four faces is in Rev. 4.

<NOBR>Re 4:6</NOBR> And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.
<NOBR>Re 4:7</NOBR> And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.


Now they are around the throne of God.  same four faces.

1.lion

2.  CALF

3.  MAN

4.  eagle.

So see that this calf, is the same as the OX, THE CHERUB.

This is the mature CHRISTIANS, who spoke the words of God, not some man's words and called it God's word.  their wings were the speach of those who speak the true Word of God.

I say you are reading it right now.  This is part of those WINGS.

I could show you much more on this,  but it would probably be too much right now.  besides I am too tired.

Study this, and get back to me.  This CHERUB started with ADAM,  WHO WAS AT FIRST SPEAKING GOD'S TRUTH,  BEFORE HE TURNED EVIL.

It was a MANIt is not an angel.

Love ye,

Jo



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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 9/10/2006 1:40 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknamelovejoy742</NOBR> Sent: 8/28/2006 4:43 PM
Hi, I am new.
This is a very thought-provoking message.  sure wish to do some more studying on this.  very interesting to say the least.

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 9/10/2006 1:40 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknameeelyahomaika</NOBR> Sent: 8/28/2006 6:28 PM
Great study Freeborn,

actually, I wanted to ask you about a cherub being an angel or not.

Going to study it.

blessings,

eelya


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 9/10/2006 1:42 AM
I wanted to move this message to the Adam thread.  It needs to be there with the other messages proving that Adam is indeed this cherub, and not some angel.
 
People just do not compare Scripture with other Scripture until they find the Scriptural answers to these things.  They just try to interpret them from their own carnal minds, or else just take what some other carnal minded person made up.
 
But this is the true Word of God answer.
 
Eelya,  read this,  It explains what we were discussing.
 
Thanks,
Jo

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