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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 9/10/2007 11:52 PM
(Hi Tweety.  I found this, as I was searching the back pages of our group.   It comes from a long thread, with some good stuff on it, which I will post on another thread.  But for now,  wish to show this to you again.  I am placing this on the Dake board, since this is your board.)
 

From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameTweety134</NOBR> Sent: 1/13/2007 11:26 AM
Dear Freeborn,
I can not prove this right now. I can't get pass Genesis for me to get more understanding. Dake can't even give me an answer to what I am seeking right now about Adam. Adam was wicked. I had a weird dream this morning.
 
I was coming up in an elevator and when the door opened I saw over by a door a person in a black coat and short black haor standing in front of the door. I said hello. This person turned around and I looked at her in horror-her eyes were jet black. And they floated in the sockets. And she said: Is that the way to address me?
 
The dream continues when I am now in a strange bedroom. This room did not look like my bedroom that I have now. I was asleep in the dream and I woke up in the dream because I smelled something burning. I woke up-but could not get out of this bed. I was too way up. And that women with the Black eyes was in the room and she said "The words in that book will not save you'. And she pointed towards the floor. She was over by the cornor walking around an artificial tree that was over in the cornor.
 
I jumped out of the bed and looked to where she pointed and my Bible was laying on the floor.
 
I dropped to my knees and cried out to God to take this evil spirit away from me. I do not know how long I was on my knees praying to God.
 
I got up and looked over and she was gone. But where she stepped around the tree there was fire burning. I put the fire out with my hand. I picked it up and it went out.
 
This was at 1:15 a.m. this morning. Weird huh? Tweety


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 9/10/2007 11:53 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR> Sent: 1/13/2007 1:05 PM
Dear Tweety,
 
I thank you so much for telling me this.  I have read it twice and prayed for God to give me the interpretation.  I have been given many interpretations for other people's dreams through the years.  I do not say a think until I know the Spirit has revealed it to me.
 
Here is what I see in your dream:
 
Now before I tell it, let me tell you this solid proof, which surely is the working of the Spirit of God.  It filled me with a spiritual trembling as I realized what has taken place right here, right now.
 
See, I was just now printing out a copy of my message, which I worte on December 7, 2005.  It is titled,  The OPEN DOOR.  I wrote a shorter version of this, dealing only with the aspect of the door.
 
but in this longer version, I showed what the first thunder is.  I have looked through my printed messages several times for this message in the last few days.  I could not find it.  I must have given my last copy away.  I wanted to read this again.  So when I stopped computering a while ago,  I set it to print out my message,  The Open Door.
 
I just now came back to staple it together.  After I finished stapling the message,  The Open Door, together,  I checked the board again, and found your dream.
 
Now that should show everyone something.  Here I am printing out the message on the Open Door, and your dream, which you were writting to me at the very time I am printing this out, is about the open door.
 
God is surely in this.
***********************************************
I was coming up in an elevator>>> This shows that you had started climbing spiritually,  learning truth.
when the door opened I saw over by a door a person in a black coat and short black haor standing in front of the door>>>>>>The Door had opened to you.  You were starting to understand some truth.  You were moving up spiritually.  But as soon as this door of understanding opened to you, Satan was standing at your right hand to block you and confuse you.
<NOBR>Zec 3:1</NOBR> And he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him.
<NOBR>Zec 3:2</NOBR> And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?

This represents Jesus, here in flesh.  Satan was standing at his right hand to resist him.  Judas was there interfering with what Jesus did.  Satan was there tempting Jesus and trying to get Jesus to fall as he had fell.  But He said,  The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan.  So now you must also say this to satan, as he stands at your right hand to resist you and lead you astray from the truth of this Open Door.

I said hello. This person turned around and I looked at her in horror-her eyes were jet black. And they floated in the sockets. And she said: Is that the way to address me? >>>>>>>God said do not give place to Satan.  Resist the devil and he will flee from you.  (God is giving me this)..  when you said "hello" to this person, you were giving place to Satan.  You were allowing false teachers to come to you and teach you lies.  But then you saw her eyes and you realized something is wrong here.  You are beginning to realize something is wrong with the ones coming in to you.  She asked is this the way to address me....why?  she wants worship.  it is Adam's spirit, inside other men.  They want worship.  They say listen to me....do not read that Book.

The dream continues when I am now in a strange bedroom. This room did not look like my bedroom that I have now. I was asleep in the dream and I woke up in the dream because I smelled something burning. I woke up-but could not get out of this bed. I was too way up.>>>>>>.God said Judah has married the daughter of a strange god.  Being in a strange bedroom shows that you are not letting your own mind or spirit lead you.  You are being led by others.  You are allowing false teachers to come to you and teach you lies.  This is why you were asleep.  It shows you are not awake to spiritual truth yet.  They have given you a 'spiritual seditive'.  Waking up,  shows coming to the light of truth.  You begin here to realize that if this 'sleep' continues, you will end up in the fire.  At first, you still cannot get out of this bed, for you are still believing the false teacher.  You were too deep into Dakes and some others to allow life to move you out of that bed.

And that women with the Black eyes was in the room and she said "The words in that book will not save you'. And she pointed towards the floor. She was over by the cornor walking around an artificial tree that was over in the cornor.

 
I jumped out of the bed and looked to where she pointed and my Bible was laying on the floor. >>>>This evil spirit told you not to listen to the KJV, which is the Bible you believe in.  I read the article you posted to your board a while ago.  In this, someone said the age old lie,  that the KJV is not a true translation.  It is not a good book to go by.  Coffeman declares this Holy Book is full of error and contradictions.  Yet you call him a brother in Christ.  If he is a true Brother in Christ,  he could not call the Word of God a lie.  He is part of your problem.  He has this evil spirit with the black eyes.  The law,  which leads to false doctrine,  is this artificial tree.  Dakes is part of this aritificial tree, for he adds his own words to God's Word, to teach other with.  So this artificial tree is words which are not true and cannot save you.  This evil spirit is leading you to this false tree of knowledge.   It teaches many, many things which are NOT WRITTEN IN THE WORD OF GOD,  SO IT IS ARITIFCIAL   OR FALSE.
Anyone who quotes teachings which are NOT written as God's Word, are part of this fake tree.  That is why I said,  ask them to give you quoted verses saying the things they say.  This is your only safety.
 
I jumped out of the bed and looked to where she pointed and my Bible was laying on the floor.
 
I dropped to my knees and cried out to God to take this evil spirit away from me. I do not know how long I was on my knees praying to God.
 
I got up and looked over and she was gone. But where she stepped around the tree there was fire burning. I put the fire out with my hand. I picked it up and it went out.
 
This was at 1:15 a.m. this morning. Weird huh? Tweety>>>> One in the morning.  Starting a NEW  DAY.  No, it is not weird at all.  It is prophecy from God to you.  Now look at the evidence: You were so upset when she told you the Book could not save you, till you finally got the strength to jump out of that strange bed.  You did the only thing which can set you free,  you dropped to you knees and started praying and seeking God.
  You were not going to allow this evil spirit to turn you against the Holy Word for this artificial word.  You were praying for deliverance from this evil spirit.  God drove it away from you.
 
At first, some of that 'fire' was still burning.  You were still wrestling with Dakes and the others who are leading you astray.  But finally you get spiritually strong enough to take your very hands and put this fire of strange fire out.  You are the only one who can stop allowing this evil to lead you astray.
 
As you pray and seek God, and depend more on the pure Written Scriptures,  then you will be able to put that last remnant of evil out and drop it and learn the deep truth your soul is craving.
 
Now that is the true interpretation of your dream.  I had to pray after I read it the first time.  I usually do have to pray and hear the dream a second time before God reveals it to me.
 
So now this is what God gave me.  It is a a good spiritual dream from God to lead you.  God is opening the Door to you.  This Door is JESUS, and is the KJV.  It is not Dakes,  it is not all these others,  it is the pure Word of God.  Seek the answers only in the KJV, so you can get away from this aritificial tree of knowledge.
God bless you.
 
Jo

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 9/10/2007 11:54 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR> Sent: 1/13/2007 1:06 PM
Hey,  look at the time I sent this.  And I certainly did not plan it.  It is just past  ONE.
 
Same thing, as the new beginning.  seems to have spiritual significance.

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From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR> Sent: 1/13/2007 5:23 PM
Tweety, and everyone else who might read this.....  take note of the fact that in your dream the Word of God had been thrown into the floor.  This signifies that the evil ones have trampled the truth to the ground.  They have thown your 'bible' down and are trying to teach you from another source.
 
Now watch  where anyone takes his or her 'stuff' from.  Watch real close.  When a 'self-appointed teacher'  goes to any source OTHER THAN THE KJV FOR THEIR doctrine and answers,  that person should be held in 'suspect' by you.
 
the reason?  He knows in his own heart that what he is saying is NOT TRUE TO THE WORD OF GOD.  He knows that he CANNOT go into Scripture and prove what he is saying......so they try to sound so knowledgable and sophistocated by using high-sounding words, and quoting what they call  'early church fathers', etc.  But what church was those 'fathers' from?  Catholic.
 
They did NOT write Scritpure.  Now anyone,  don't care who it is,  or when they lived, or how much Scripture they claim to know how to quote,  if they tell you anything at all, which is not written in Scripture, they are lying to you.
 
You must take everything anyone tells you,  and go into Scripture and either prove they are right, or prove they are wrong.  If the Word does not say what they are saying,  then they are teaching LIES.
 
Watch bill, on your board.  most of what he claims to know, comes from some other source, other than the Word of God.  The reason?  He KNOWS it is not in Scripture. He cannot take you to Scripture and prove what he is saying.  So it is lies.
 
Now I am telling you all....one of the biggest deceptions of all times is claiming that Jews, as such,  as an ethnic group of people was and is God's chosen people.  They fight against what they call  anti-semetism or whatever the word is, meaning against Jews.
 
Well there is a much worse thing,   and that is Jew -worship.  most of the church world is GUILTY of this foolish junk.
 
God never said the Jews, as such,  is his people.  He does not call any 'ethenic' group,  Jews.  it is a term he uses for his true people  It does not mean the decendants of Jacob.
 
Paul plainly told us that neither because they are the natural seed, are they children of God.  Why do people have so much trouble with this great truth?
 
Being of any particular national group, or skin color, has not one thing to do with being a child of God.......never has.......and never will.
 
Paul made it very clear that there is no difference in Jews and anyone else.  We are all the same to God.  the one and only thing which does make any difference is  FAITH In JESUS CHRIST.
 
The people of FAITH,  GRACE,  are the ONLY ones who have ever been God's chosen people.  There have always been few of them, and it has never mattered what nation they came from.
  When Jesus said there are few which find the way to life,  that word,  few,  applies to any and all time.  It was always true,  it will always be true.
The people Jesus said had the most faith, in his day,  were from some other nation,  not Jews.  Check it out and see.
 
The people of Faith are the true Jews, the true Israel, the true Church, the true bride of Christ, and the only ones who will have eternal life.
 
Now that is the gospel truth.  anyone telling you different is A  LIAR AND KNOWS NOT ANY TRUTH.
 
If you live by faith in the Word of God,  you are the Jew, the Israel of God.  Romans 2:28,29.
 
but now you watch almost 100% of so-called teachers, and Christians,  teach you different and kick this as false teaching.  But take it to the Word of God and prove it or disprove it.
 
If you listen to any source of knowledge other than the Word of God,  you will never wake up and be able to get out of that 'strange' bed.  That spirit with the black eyes will lead you to hell fire.
 
Love to you all,
 
Jo

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From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR> Sent: 1/13/2007 7:51 PM
Tweety, if you are home and see this,  give me a call.
  I would like to talk with you again tonight. 
 
JOOOOOOOOO 
aint this pretty!'
how you likes my
JOOOOOOOO?

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 9/10/2007 11:55 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameAxs2-381</NOBR> Sent: 1/13/2007 9:04 PM
Jo. was just reading your interpretation of Tweety's dream. Do you remember the prophecy a couple of days ago that the Lord gave about the deep waters? It is about the same as the dream. Isn't that amazing? It surely is to me.

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From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR> Sent: 1/14/2007 1:08 AM
Yes, Axs.  And I just finished talking with her and told her what you said.  Then she told me of another dream which she has had 7 times.  It had the very same meaning.
God is really speaking to Tweety in these dreams.
 
It was really amazing that I was printing out  The Open Door as she was writting this dream and how that door opened to her.  It really opened a lot here on the phone tonight.   God is really moving is all of this.
 
nite.


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 9/10/2007 11:56 PM
Tweety, hope you read this again.  I wish to refresh your memory and hope you get back into searching for truth.
 
Do not allow Satan's false ministers to lead you astray.  Hope you are growing in grace and KNOWLEDGE of TRUTH.

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From: MSN NicknameTweety134Sent: 9/15/2007 1:55 AM
Hi Freeborn,
I am here. I have been gone for 2 days. (stayed at my moms house). Been reading about The name Jesus Christ. Did you know that the word Christ means annointed?
And So I am studing alot of things about Christ And I have been busy at work. And by th etime I get home I am bone tired. Another thing I read was that Christ was not annointed until 30 years after he was born. What Dake is tryingt to say is that he did perform miracles until after he was baptized. You told me the same thing awhile ago. Most people don't believe that. But Dake has scripture to back that up. Some of his scripture references I don't understand. But as I study more, I will.
 
Well have a good night.  Love ya.  Tweety

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 9/17/2007 3:33 PM
Good to hear from you again, Tweety.  I know what you mean about being so tired.  It is hard for working people to get in much computering time.  It is more important to pray and study the Scriptures.
 
Yes, I know that Christ means anointed.  That is why so many people get confused and this it is just a part of Jesus' name.  It is not.
 
Most of the time, CHRIST, in Scripture refers to us, the true people of God.  We are HIS CHRIST.  He anointed us.
 
Yes, Jesus was anointed by God, at the time of his baptism.  That is when he was filled with the Holy ghost and power.  This came to Jesus from his Father, God.
 
What a pity that the whole world has missed this truth, by teaching the false concept that the man, Jesus, was God.
 
Jo

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From: MSN NicknameTweety134Sent: 9/18/2007 2:04 AM
Freeborn,
Do you think that the act of baptism remits sins? Please don't get me wrong. You must be baptized. And I think I explained it before that it does not matter what name you baptize in. But I am getting ready to post some stuff from Dake about Baptism on the SNW board.  Intresting stuff that I read last night and tonight.
I just want to know your thoughts on this.  Tweety

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 9/18/2007 3:50 AM
Tweety, you already know my thoughts.  I think just what the Apostles taught.
 
I have told you over and over.  Peter told us.  Paul told us.  Jesus told us.  who can rightly deny the things they said?  Not i, said jo.
 
If it does not matter what name we use, why didn't they tell us that?  Why did they all say, in the name of JEsus Christ?  whose else authority are you under?  who is your head, if not Jesus?  Dake?
 
think God will judge you by the words of Dake?  You sure seem to think this.  and I do not mean this ugly to you.  You need to wake up and come into the light.
 
The Word of God means just what it says.
 
Peter, in the subject:
<NOBR>Ac 2:38</NOBR> Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Now see, that he said it is FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS.

So how else you going to get yours remitted?

Paul's and Ananias's word about it: 
<NOBR>Ac 22:16</NOBR> And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.


Wash away they sins, by baptism...calling on the name of the Lord.

Paul again: 
<NOBR>Ac 19:3</NOBR> And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
<NOBR>Ac 19:4</NOBR> Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
<NOBR>Ac 19:5</NOBR> When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
<NOBR>Ac 19:6</NOBR> And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.


Paul rebaptized them in the name of the Lord Jesus.

Peter again:
<NOBR>Ac 10:46</NOBR> For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
<NOBR>Ac 10:47</NOBR> Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
<NOBR>Ac 10:48</NOBR> And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.


He COMMANDED them to be baptized in the name of the Lord.

So you and Dake found out this is not necessary?


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From: MSN Nickname®Larry_W_B_1©Sent: 9/18/2007 6:58 AM
Luke 24:44- And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you,  { Jesus Speaking) while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

 45Then opened he  ( Jesus) their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,

 46And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

 47And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. ( Jesus still speaking)

 48And ye are witnesses of these things.

 49And, behold, I send the promise of my Father ( Holy Ghost ) upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.

 50And he led them out as far as to Bethany, and he lifted up his hands, and blessed them.

 51And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven.

 52And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:

 53And were continually in the temple, praising and blessing God. Amen.

Now who are we to believe? Jesus or Dake? Peter and Jesus and also the rest of the apostles preached the same thing and that is that we remit our sins by baptism in the wonderful name of Jesus.

Acts 4:12 (King James Version)

12Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
 
Tweety, it does matter what name you are baptize in, why can you not see this? It says there is no salvation in any other name. Now again who are you going to believe? The word of Dake? Get away from this man 's nonsense.
 
As Joie has said, I mean no harm and am not being ugly to you, but you must see this if you are going to have salvation. Your salvation depends on this and we care for you, hon. 

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 9/18/2007 2:05 PM
Now for some more proof that Jesus himself showed that baptism is a necessary part of being saved:

Mr 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Mr 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Mr 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

Mr 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

Mr 16:19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

Mr 16:20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.

See, Jesus said that we must also be baptized to be saved, and if it is part of salvation, it certainly has to be according to Scripture.

Notice that those who obeyed this, had those signs following them.  So who has them today?  Reckon it is because they departed from the right baptism?  sure it is.

Most folks who baptize some other way, than the name of Jesus, do not even believe in speaking in tongues.

Do you? 

Do you have it yet in your life?  If not, it may be because you are refusing this truth.

Col 3:17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

Now that verse takes in everything we do in word or in deed. that certainly covers Baptism, as it is in both word and deed.  So do it in the name of the Lord Jesus, as the apostles taught us.


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