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Fall of OT : Fall of the Old Testament - part 2
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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22  (Original Message)Sent: 8/30/2006 3:23 AM

(Part two)

Fall of the OT.

Let’s go back to Lam. 2.

Verse one shows God being angry with Israel and casting them down from heaven unto the earth. See, I have explained that the ‘heaven�?is the people God is blessing and using at a particular time. At first Israel was the ‘heaven�? but in God’s anger, He cast them out of that ‘heaven�?unto being of the ‘earth�?group.

Here is a deep revelation; first this happened in the Garden of Eden. We have touched on the fact that there was a whole kingdom of beings in that Garden. This, at that time was God’s ‘Israel�? What went on with the natural, Jacob family was only ‘showing�?what went on with all others. God said all things that have ever been were made known in those 12 tribes of Israel. So, they not only show what goes on now; but what went on in the world ‘beyond�?

If you study Eze. 28-32, you will see the description of Adam and that race of beings, BEFORE they were thrust out of that Garden. I have touched on this before. They were in an immortal body in that Garden. They were not in human flesh as we are today. They were the beautiful Cherubs in chapter 28.

See, in verse one, that God COVERED them with a CLOUD in his anger. We have had a lot of debate on this word ‘cloud�?lately. Here is another proof that it refers to our human flesh.

Is. 50:3--I CLOTHE the heavens with BLACKNESS, and I make SACKCLOTH their COVERING.

Now, here we find God said he clothed or changed the ‘HEAVENS�?= God’s people, with BLACKNESS; = DARKNESS or carnality; and He made SACKCLOTH their COVERING. Sackcloth represents this human flesh. That is why those witnesses in Rev. 11- are said to be clothed with ‘sackcloth�? it shows that they are still in human flesh doing their ministry; they were not yet resurrected into glorification.

Is. 25:7-And he will destroy in this mountain =(the kingdom of Jesus)-the face of the COVERING cast over ALL people, and the VEIL that is spread over ALL nations.

Now, this verse is referring to the same thing: the COVERING cast over ALL people is that CLOUD or human flesh which he clothed Adam and Eve with after they had sinned and He cast them out of the Garden. People say God killed a lamb and clothed them with its skin. Nothing could be further from the truth. God put them into human skin = mortality; from which we will be delivered at the resurrection when we will again be given immortality.

So, sackcloth, darkness, cloud, covering and veil in these Scriptures all represent this human mortal flesh. See, that if you just ‘read�?you will never come to understand the mysteries of the Word. You must learn to compare Scripture with Scripture; this is the only way it can be rightly understood.

Now back to Is. 25:8-for proof of what I said: He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord God will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it. So, this clearly is referring to the resurrection when he destroys that covering cast over all people.

Isn’t that glorious? God will take away this mortal, human covering of flesh and give us back the glory of that Garden of Eden race of beings. I want to be one of them!

Now, back to Lam. 2:2-The Lord hath swallowed up all the habitations of Jacob, and hath not pitied: he hath thrown down in his wrath the strong holds of the daughter of Judah; he hath brought them DOWN to the ground: he hath polluted the kingdom and the princes thereof.

Go back to Is. 47 where God told Babylon to come DOWN and sit in the dust [or ground]. This is the same thing. This shows God doing away with that old nation of Israel. He was FINISHED with it. He NEVER goes BACK; God does not go back to something he has grown angry at and did away with it. When he brings it down to the ‘ground�?he is finished forever with it. He had no pity on them. He will do the same to this polluted church today. When He spews it out of his mouth, it amounts to the same thing he did here to Israel. He did it to His Israel, which was in that Garden of Eden; He did it to the nation of Israel; He did it to Judah; and He will do it to this filthy, idol worshipping church today.

See that He polluted that kingdom; yet so many are still looking for Him to bring it back up again. He will never do it. He said I will do a new thing; He never goes backward and does an old thing.

Now I will show just a small amount from Jer. of how and why God cut off that OT. group.

Jer. 7: 8. Behold, ye trust in lying words, that cannot profit.

9. Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not;

10. And come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and say, We are delivered to do all these abominations?

11. Is this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your eyes? Behold, even I have seen it, saith the Lord.

12. But go ye now unto my place which was in Shiloh, where I set my name at the first, and see what I did to it for the wickedness of my people Israel.

13. And now, because ye have done all these works, saith the Lord, and I spake unto you, rising up early and speaking, but ye heard not; and I called you, but ye answered not;

14. Therefore will I do unto this house, which is called by my name, wherein ye trust, and unto the place which I gave to you and to your fathers, as I have done to Shiloh.

15. And I will cast you out of my sight, as I have cast out all your brethren, even the whole seed of Ephraim.

16. Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up cry nor prayer for them, neither make intercession to me: for I will not hear thee.

If you read this as prophecy for the modern day church, it fits there perfectly. They are also filthy, polluted with idols, which they bring right into the house of worship and which they call by His Name. So He will do unto them exactly as He did to Shiloh and Jerusalem. He will cut it off in his anger and fury. It is such a strong indictment against them that he tells us not to even pray for them. They call the sun-god birthday worship by His name, = Christmas. It is devil worship. Yet the church just glories in this.

Repent while you still can; if you can.

If He cast the first Israel out of the Garden of Eden because of their sins and rebellion; and He destroyed Shiloh and cut off the OT. Covenant for the same reason, take heed that He will not spare this polluted church teaching their lies.

 By: Jo Smith



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From: joie2Sent: 3/4/2008 2:59 PM
 
This message, the Fall of the OT, needs to be studied again and again.  Wake up!  You cannot have salvation trying to serve God under that old covenant.
 
The seventh day advantist have taken the world back under that old covenant.  screeming daily that you must live by a weekly sabbath.  It is not of God.
 
Others try to live by old jewish words and days, trying to live under that old covenant.  It is only sanctified by the blood of  ANIMALS, which God has always rejected.  It totally denies JESUS CHRIST AND NEW TESTAMENT SALVATION.
 
the blood of animals can never take away your sins.
 
God hated everything connected with that old covenant way of life.  It was death.  It was a horrible thing to have to be under.
 
All you you who wish to go by that and old jews, needs to have to spend at least one month living that horrible way of life.  Then you would run, screeming to Jesus Christ, for his MERCY.
 
Jo Smith

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From: MSN Nicknamerollingstone444Sent: 3/4/2008 11:31 PM
I am studying deep into this message.  shore is different, but very good.