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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22  (Original Message)Sent: 8/29/2006 10:58 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn22</NOBR>  (Original Message) Sent: 6/27/2006 2:16 PM
Scriptural principles which must be understood in order to ever see the real truth. Of course the first and main one is finding out for sure who Jesus Christ actually was and is. Until one comes to see this truth, as the Word of God teaches it, they will always believe lies.
 
 Everything one reads in the entire Word of God will be ‘wrong�?in your mind, for you are attempting to make it agree with the ‘false Jesus�? Is there a ‘false Jesus�? Is there an idol in this world called ‘Jesus�? Yes, and it is the ‘Jesus�?which all churches are speaking of. They are all worshipping this false Jesus.

2Cor 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

See here that Paul showed that men would pervert the gospel of Christ and bring up a false Jesus and a false gospel. He said let them be accursed. That is how important this is, let them be accursed who pervert the truth of Christ.

 So now, am I the one perverting Christ or is it the rest of them? Someone had better get to the real truth of this matter, for it is too important to allow someone to teach the world lies.

We know that the entire church world teaches that Jesus was God manifest in flesh. All churches, trinities and the Jesus-only people, teach that God was ‘incarnate�?in Jesus or Jesus was God in human flesh. In other words, they are saying that God actually left Heaven, placed himself into Mary’s womb and grew into a human baby.

This is a prime example of how they add to the Word and make up stuff. No such words are written anywhere in the entire Word of God. As I said, you can open your Scripture and READ what I am teaching. You cannot open it and read what they tell you.

 If you think you can, PLEASE someone tell me where any verse is which says what I just wrote. I offered a person everything I own to show me one verse saying that Jesus is or was God in flesh. He claimed he would come back and collect. He never came back, for no such Scripture exists. If it does not exist, why does everyone teach this lie?

 A ‘Jesus-only�?minister admitted to me that it is not written in the Word. I then asked him why do so many preachers teach this then. He was speechless.



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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 8/29/2006 10:58 PM
From: Isaiah Sent: 6/27/2006 2:32 PM
They also say that God robed himself in the flesh and came as a man

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 8/29/2006 10:59 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn22</NOBR> Sent: 6/27/2006 2:36 PM

You absolutely must get the truth of this if you are ever to know the truth of who Jesus actually was and is. When you call the outer man, Jesus, God, you are making the big mistake of calling a human man God. To say Jesus was God is to say that God was born (which the Word declares that God was never born, He had no beginning or ending.) You must by the same token say that Mary was the Mother of God. That is strictly Catholic doctrine, or the doctrine of the beast. You must also declare that God was killed by sinful man and went into hell fire. Can any of you with a true conscious make these statements? If not, you had better seek for the real truth and acknowledge what your false doctrine is causing you to say and believe. The Word declares that God had no father or mother. So if you say that Jesus was God, you must say that Mary was God’s Mother and he was his own father. This is sheer foolishness!


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 8/29/2006 10:59 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn22</NOBR> Sent: 6/27/2006 2:37 PM

The Jesus only teaching says that Jesus was man on the outside and God on the inside. In other words, Jesus�?own mind, or spirit was God. But does the Scripture teach this? Of course it does not. No Scripture says that Jesus was BOTH God and man. It is simply NOT written. Yet everyone seems to believe this lie. I heard a minister say that we all will have to either believe the Trinity lie, or believe the Jesus-only doctrine. I say, NO. There is another ‘option�? And that is the TRUTH. See neither one of those teachings are true. I personally have come out of both those doctrines. I was raised to believe the trinity lie. Later after much study of the Word, I came to believe the Jesus-only doctrine. I was as deep into this as anyone has ever been. I could teach it from one end to the other. I was not taught it by man either. I got it by studying the Word. But it was only because I did not understand enough to see what I was reading. I was doing the same thing almost everyone else does. I was trying to make the Word fit into a mold already set up by man. It simply will never fit into their molds.

But I suppose God had me go through both those doctrines so I could understand them and be able to teach the truth so either one can see the real truth, that is IF they desire truth. Now this is the hard part for everyone, getting to a desire for truth and being willing to ‘unlearn�?all you now believe and allow God to reveal His truth to you. But until you reach this place of being willing, you will never see truth or please God. Jesus himself cannot teach a person who is unwilling to listen and learn.

Now did Jesus have the Spirit of God inside him from birth? NO. Only John the Baptist was born with the Holy Ghost inside him. John is the only person which the Word declares to have the Spirit of God before His birth. It is not taught of Jesus, and yet no one believes that John was God. There was a man sent from God whose name was John. Does this make anyone say that John was God? No!


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 8/29/2006 11:00 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn22</NOBR> Sent: 6/27/2006 2:42 PM

Ok let’s see if Jesus were the Word incarnate, as they teach. Let’s see if he were the Word itself

De 18:15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;

De 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. De 18:19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.

Now that was Moses speaking. Twice he told the Israelites that God will raise up unto you a PROPHET from the midst of thee, of thy brethren. Now Moses did NOT say God will raise up unto you a god or himself in human form. He said this PROPHET will be of thee (the Israelites) of thy brethren. In other words, Jesus was made in all points like unto his brethren. He was made exactly as any other human man. This said he would be a PROPHET. It never one time told them to expect this one to be God.

Notice, verse 15 says that the LORD thy God will do this raising up of the Prophet like unto Moses. Then verse 18 It says I will raise them up a Prophet. So the I is the LORD their God. So God is still speaking when he said I WILL PUT MY WORDS IN HIS MOUTH. I (personal pronoun, meaning the one speaking is the I) will put MY (also a personal pronoun showing it is God speaking of his own word) words in HIS (personal pronoun meaning someone OTHER than the one speaking) mouth.

I, God, will put MY (God’s ) Word in HIS (Jesus�? mouth. God will put God’s Word in Jesus�?mouth. I will put my word in his mouth, and HE shall speak unto them all that I shall command HIM. God will put God’s Word in Jesus�?mouth, and Jesus will speak all that God commands HIM. Him means someone other than the person speaking. The ‘him�?here is NOT God. It is that Prophet which God said He would raise up unto them, of their own selves. He would be just like Moses. Was Moses God?


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22Sent: 8/29/2006 11:00 PM
From: Isaiah Sent: 6/27/2006 2:54 PM

 

<NOBR>Heb 5:6</NOBR> As he saith also in anoTHEr place, Thou art a priest for ever AFTER THE ORDER OF MELCHISEDEC.
<NOBR>Heb 5:10</NOBR> Called OF God an high priest AFTER THE ORDER OF MELCHISEDEC.
<NOBR>Heb 6:20</NOBR> WhiTHEr THE forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever AFTER THE ORDER OF MELCHISEDEC.
<NOBR>Heb 7:17</NOBR> For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever AFTER THE ORDER OF MELCHISEDEC

<NOBR>Heb 7:3</NOBR> Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

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From: MSN NicknameAxs2-381Sent: 5/9/2007 6:27 AM

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 5/9/2007 1:28 PM
Praise our Jesus today for his glorious truth he has so graciously given us.

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