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Question&Answer : Who are the chosen?
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Message 1 of 9 in Discussion

From: joie (Original Message)

Sent: 7/17/2002 6:42 PM

Matt. 20:26-So the last shall be first, and the first last: for MANY be called, but few CHOSEN.

So, my question -- who are the CHOSEN.

What is the difference in being CALLED, AND CHOSEN?

Joie

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Message 2 of 9 in Discussion

From:

·Spiritwalker

Sent: 7/17/2002 7:19 PM

Hello! This is Matthew 20:16.

Called and chosen....Are you referring to preaching and teaching? If so, then you'd be better off to be chosen than called because sometimes the voice they hear is not God and their ministry falls flat. Chosen....Jesus picked his disciples and Apostles, did He not?

Are we as Christians who believe in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ, are we not His "Chosen" ones...the ones He prayed for in John 17 verse 21, that we may be "one". In verse 9 He said He was praying for "them which thou hast given me; for they are thine."

I need to give this more thought.

Love to you,

Spiritwalker

Message 3 of 9 in Discussion

From: joie

Sent: 7/18/2002 4:15 AM

Dear Spiritwalker,

Thanks for the correction: yes, I looked at Matt. 20:16, but did a typo-error.

I do not think it is referring to preachers; but rather to eternal life.

I also need to do some more studying into this. It is deep.

Jesus said a measure of faith is given to everyone. I think the 'many' are called - means all are given a chance at salvation.

But remember Jesus said wide is the gate and broad is the way which leads to hell; and MANY there be which go into it.

There is your MANY.

He said straight and narrow is the way which leads to eternal life; and FEW there be which go into it.

There you have the CHOSEN. The CHOSEN are the ELECT; those who endure until the end; those who follow the LAMB wheresoever HE goes or leads them.

THEY ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE IT INTO ETERNAL LIFE BY BEING OBEDIENT TO THE WORD OF GOD.

J o i e

Message 4 of 9 in Discussion

From: joie

Sent: 7/22/2002 4:48 AM

******* 11Cor. 7:1 *******

Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved let us CLEANSE ourselves from ALL FILTHINESS of the FLESH and SPIRIT, perfecting HOLINESS IN THE FEAR OF GOD.

Those of us who obey this verse ~~~~~~ clean our flesh and our spirit up; and perfect HOLINESS, without which no one shall see the Lord,,, we are the CHOSEN.

Message 5 of 9 in Discussion

From: Dawn

Sent: 7/25/2002 1:44 AM

Well, I found this discussion very interesting. I found this on the subject; I think it will shed some more light on this question of who are the chosen.

11 Thes. 2:13--But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

v14--Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ..

v15--Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

This shows that those who are called by the gospel, and are sanctified by the Spirit and stand fast without falling, then are the CHOSEN of God. He chose to save those who are obedient to the Word.

Dawn

Message 6 of 9 in Discussion

From:

Jerubbaal2002

Sent: 7/30/2002 6:19 AM

Joie

" I do not think itis refering to Preachers; but rather to eternal life."

Samson was Chosen before he was born.

Gideon was called and Chosen.

Samuel was Chosen

Elisha was caled by Elijah, but was chosen by God,

If you are Chosen for a Position, has nothing to do with your salvation,

Salvation you have to Accept or reject.

You believe and accept Jesus Christ, and you shall be saved.

John

Message 7 of 9 in Discussion

From: Shobek

Sent: 11/7/2002 12:58 AM

The many who are called is the complete family of the elect (jacob have I loved rom 9 11-13) the chosen are those of the remenant, those of the jacob have I loved who's eyes are open to the gospel, the visible church, look at john 11:25-26, notoce a dead person believes,how can this be. the death that is under consideration is one who's eyes are not open to the gospel, the other is one who is chosen, his eyes are open to the gospel and can belive or reject, this is a very deep subject but using the scriptures rightly divided will give a better understanding odf the visible Kingdom...

Message 8 of 9 in Discussion

From: joie

Sent: 11/7/2002 5:43 AM

Hello Bro. Shobec,

I see the 'remnant' as being all saved people. Paul said, All Israel shall be saved. Lots of people mistakeningly think this is saying God is going to save all what they call natural Jews. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Paul also said, if ye belong to Christ, then are ye Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise.

He said "he is not a Jew which is one OUTWARDLY, but he IS a Jew which is one inwardly.

That is us.

We are the remnant of Israel. We are the saved ones. We are the chosen. God called all who lived to come and take of the water of life freeely. But most will not do this. So God chose the ones of us who obey.

When it said God hardens whom he will, you must realize that God does not CHOOSE one person to harden, and another to have compassion. Not for one minute.

God hardens those who are evil, disobedient and sinful; he uses them for his own purpose. After all, we all belong to him. He has mercy on those of us who obey His Word.

We are the true Jacob. The chosen.

Message 9 of 9 in Discussion

From:

NTHESECRETPLACE

Sent: 11/12/2002 8:24 PM

Hi Gang ,

Called means invited

Chosen is LAID OUT

The verse is : Matt 20: 16

When we READ any verse IN CONTEXT , With the

surrounding verses we get TRUTH , WHOLE TRUTH , not

Partial Truth , or bits n pieces , or crumbs or the tail of the thought of the writer .

All men are called to work in the vinyard ......INVITED /called.

All men are called to salvation .For God so LOVED the world.

Anyway , Matt 20 : 16 The first word is" SO",

showing there are verses before that explain this verse .

10,000 preachers of different Demoms will explain verse 1 - 16

as they were taught before them .

YOU should read yourself {always] and see what THE TRUTH ,THE WAY , THE LIGHT says .

But, to this uncolleged one ,

WE ARE ARE CALLED / invited , by the same DEAL,

Testament / Agreement/Covenant / CONTRACT .

SOME are SERVANTS , in Worship /LAID out ,

to do the will of the Lord of the vineyard , TO LOVE THEIR

NEIGHBOR .

SAUL /PAUL was dedicated to GOD ALMIGHTY

even to persecuting those of the church .

EVEN he needed to learn TRUTH .

We are all invited , we are NOT all chosen [ which is CHOICE } as CHOICE cuts of steak .

Some are complainers , envious , selfish , THANK GOD for

Grace .

A SERVANT of the LORD is not just a bible reader ,or a hearer of Christ {the word } , BUT , ...............a doer.

That CHOICE SERVANT can be used of Christ /LOVE ,

that SERVANT is CHOSEN .

---------------------------------- also,

Matt 22 : 14 from verse 1 and on.

I be one of the many of v 9

If you are a free guest of a wedding , of a free gift of eternal life .

We should dress accordingly , we should respect the host.

MATTHEW 22 : 40

Many are invited , but FEW are "choice"

few are laid out Loving their Neighbor .

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