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Revelation : What is the Tree of Life?
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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 8/25/2008 3:24 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR>  (Original Message) Sent: 5/26/2007 11:18 AM

What is the Tree of Life?  What do you think?

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Now for some more of this powerful truth.

What do you think the tree of life is?

I have asked this before. and I have asked what is the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. These are very important truths which everyone needs to know.

What is the tree of life?

What do you think? Think! Ponder it in your own mind right now. Do you know?

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Now for an astonishing fact from the word of God.

Re 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

So, did you have the right answer? What did you think it was? Jesus? the Word of God?

Why then, the HER?

Are you like so many others, who will declare that the Word of God is full of error and mistakes, because it does not suit your own likes and dislikes? Better be careful,,,....all who seek to change the Word of God to suit men's false ideas.

OK, now. for the required second witness

Pr 3:15 She is more precious than rubies: and all the things thou canst desire are not to be compared unto her.

Pr 3:16 Length of days is in her right hand; and in her left hand riches and honour.

Pr 3:17 Her ways are ways of pleasantness, and all her paths are peace.

Pr 3:18 She is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her: and happy is every one that retaineth her.

 

So, here we have two different Scriptures telling us that the Tree of Life is a FEMALE.

What you gonna do with this? Who is SHE?

Is Jesus connected with the Tree of life?

am I really so crazy? am I so out of the Word of God.?

Or do you perhaps think that this KJ is not the Word of God?

If not, what is?

Count. In the verses in Proverbs 3: 15-18, there are nine times the tree of life is called a FEMALE.

Is that enough? If it is error, then the verse in Rev. 22:2 is also in error. If that much error is in the Word, then it simply cannot be God’s Word, for He does not lie, and it is not to be trusted. Upon what then, do you rest your soul? Whose Word?

By: Jo Smith

May 26, 2007




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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 8/25/2008 3:25 AM
From: joie Sent: 5/26/2007 11:42 AM
Joel 2:3 A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
Joel 2:4 The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.


Who are these horses and HORSEMEN?

Re 9:7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.
Re 9:8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.


Need some more?

Re 9:16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.
Re 9:17 "And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone. "


OK,  who is this army of GOD?'

see, the men and the women in it?  Seek ye out of the Book of God and READ.

(got a feeling, this army is also this tree of life.  what ye think?)


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 8/25/2008 3:26 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR> Sent: 5/27/2007 11:46 AM
The carnal, earthly  'well-studied'  'scholars'  tell the world that the LOCUSTS are demons from hell......
 
if that be so,  then those demons are these horsemen and horses.  they have the crown of gold.  never saw demons with the gold of God.
 
So where does this leave your precious  (sneer meant)  scholars and their earthly carnal renderings?
 
(they may end up in the middle of the fire,  without the faith to walk through it without harm!)  >>>along with those who relied upon them and their great  'knowledge' to lead them.

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From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameTweety134</NOBR> Sent: 5/27/2007 8:59 PM
 
What Do I think the tree of Life is? Eternal Life. Tweety

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 8/25/2008 3:27 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR> Sent: 5/27/2007 9:37 PM
TWEETY!
That is a profound statement!  What a glorious truth and secret!
It is as beautiful as your lovely picture!
Those words took my breath.  I have sat here speechless and motionless for a few minutes.
 
You get 100  = A+.
 
Great answer.
 

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 8/25/2008 3:28 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR> Sent: 5/27/2007 9:45 PM
I want to show you something which I just saw as I went back and read my first post here.
Pr 3:18 She is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her: and happy is every one that retaineth her.
 
 
1ti 6:12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.

1ti 6:19 Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.
Heb 6:18 That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 8/25/2008 3:30 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameAxs2-381</NOBR> Sent: 5/29/2007 1:03 AM
From: joie Sent: 5/26/2007 11:42 AM
<NOBR>Joe 2:3</NOBR> A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
<NOBR>Joe 2:4</NOBR> The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.


Who are these horses and HORSEMEN?

<NOBR>Re 9:7</NOBR> And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.
<NOBR>Re 9:8</NOBR> And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.


Need some more?

<NOBR>Re 9:16</NOBR> And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.
<NOBR>Re 9:17</NOBR> "And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone. "


OK,  who is this army of GOD?'

see, the men and the women in it?  Seek ye out of the Book of God and READ.

(got a feeling, this army is also this tree of life.  what ye think?)


This has to be the ministry of the second witness, the true Jews, ( Christians) which is anointed with power from on high with the baptism of FIRE. This is the judgement minstry spoken of by Joel in the 2 chapter.

2: 30 -And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. 31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

These people of God are destroying the stubble, ( satan's people). They have to be the people of God. They are tearing the walls down spoken in Eze. 8.

Eze 8:7 And he brought me to the door of the court; and when I looked, behold a hole in the wall. 8 Then said he unto me, Son of man, dig now in the wall: and when I had digged in the wall, behold a door. 9 And he said unto me, Go in, and behold the wicked abominations that they do here. 10 So I went in and saw; and behold every form of creeping things, and abominable beasts, and all the idols of the house of Israel, pourtrayed upon the wall round about. "( They are destroying all these abominations,  and all the idols. This is what we are doing with all this idolatry that we are bringing out. We are digging and digging to try to bring the truth to you about all this evil. We are part of the horseman. We are part of this ministry of fire. 

We are the  that is bringing the

 of God.

  

 


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 8/25/2008 3:31 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR> Sent: 5/29/2007 9:53 AM
Praise God, for that marvelous true testimony, brother Axs.  And I thank God that we know this truth, and are part of it.  I would rather be part of this, than to own the whole world.
 
this is eternal.

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From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR> Sent: 6/1/2007 8:47 PM
I wish to tell you that the Baptism of the Holy ghost is REAL today, just as it was at Pentecost.
It is so marvelous to be filled with the LOVE of GOD.
 
Now I am telling you, from my own experience,  that this LOVE of GOD is much more than any human love we have ever experienced.  It fills you with so much love, you do not want any sin or wrong doing near you.
 
You do not want anything ungodly near you or in you.  It is not there.
 
It is joy,  JOY, joy unspeakable and FULL OF GLORY.
 
To anyone of you, who might read this,  if you have never been truly filled with the Holy  Ghost, speaking in other tongues and being completely OUT OF YOURSELF,  then you have missed the greatest thing in life.  Better had one not been born, than to live and die without this.
 
the false church has convinced most everyone that this ceased to exist with the Apostles.  What a dreadful and horrible lie!  Nothing of the sort happened.  it is very real today.  I have it.
 
When God filled me with the holy ghost, 43 years ago,  I wanted to lay  my head down on the chop-block for him that night.  I was so filled with LOVE FOR GOD,  I wished to die for him.
 
You have never truly known what LOVE is until you are filled with this experience from God.  It is not something one does themselves.  It comes from God and him alone.
 
If you do not have this,  seek it until you find it.  Seek it day and night.  Do not let God alone until He comes and fills you.
 
This is life eternal.  This is the JOY of thE LORD.
 
while other groups argue and wallow in their false doctrines,  fight over how many wives they can have, what the government is doing, how many make up god,  wheather Jesus is god or not, what the weather is doing, if we go up pre-trib, mid-trib, or post-trib,  ......
 
we here at Bottf, are rejoicing in the true revelation of God's Word, given by the inspiration of God's Spirit,  fitting exactly what the Word of God declares, without adding to it or taking away from it or needing to change it anywhere.  The other groups should be busy telling people about this glory, instead of arguring over such none-sence stuff.  It will do no one any good.  This is what you need.
 
In the midst of the street of the holy city was there the tree of life on either side.  What?  On either side of the RIVER OF HUMAN LIFE,  there were those with eternal life, or glorified bodies.
 
Adam and Eve,  and perhaps many, many, many children of this nature, existed on that side of the RIVER OF HUMAN LIFE.  At the resurrection, we will come forth on this side of that river of humanity, with the same glorified bodies, or eternal life,,,,,,,,a body which cannot die.
 
Glory.  But without the Holy Ghost,  you will not make it.
 
So my advise is.......get into the Word of God, and out of that wallowing of those other groups. All they are concerned with is what the government is doing, or what they think it is doing.
or  how many wives they can have. 
or when they will sail off into the nothingness of space.....etc. etc.
 
Scofield says,  the word should read this way,  instead of how it does read.........most everyone else follows suit...why?  Cause it does not fit their own false ideas.
 
so why bother to read that MESS?  It will lead your soul astray and into utter confusion and finally,  DEATH.
 
Who is he to say God made a mistake?  or many mistakes?  who is any other man to change God's word?
 
they know not God.  They walk on in their own darkened mind.
 
Jesus said they of the WORLD  SPEAK OF THE WORLD.
 
When you hear people,  claiming to be such great Christians,  but all they talk about, or write about, is the things of this world,  that identifies them as people of the WORLD,  NOT OF GOD.
 
He that is of God speaks of the things of God.
 
go.  set a watch.  look at how the other groups carry on about the things of this WORLD.
 
Then come back and take a close look at US We talk about the true things of God.,  because we are of God.
 
Jo Smith

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From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameAxs2-381</NOBR> Sent: 6/2/2007 3:33 AM
 
Praise God, for that marvelous true testimony, sister .  And I thank God that we know this truth, and are part of it.  I would rather be part of this, than to own the whole world.
 
this is eternal.

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 8/25/2008 3:33 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameFreeborn551</NOBR> Sent: 6/3/2007 12:19 PM
Anne, what is it that I said which you are afraid of?  What part of it do you consider to be 'gnosticism'?  Is it the part of still receiving the Holy Ghost as the Apostles and early church did?  if so,  then I guess you brand THEM as 'gnosticics'?  After all, they did receive the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in other tongues.
 
What does any of this have to do with the price of eggs in China?  Who spoke of that?  Why are you concerned with that?  do you buy from China?  (how you do jump around!)
 
Now when you can take the Word of God and prove me wrong somewhere, then and only then, tell me to be careful.  How careful should you be?  Think it over.
 
I am teaching exactly what the Word of God teaches.....exactly what the Apostles of Christ and Jesus himself taught.  Now if that is something to fear and be 'careful' about, you explain.
 
You are STILL thinking strictly in the flesh.  We know him no more after the flesh. 
 
<NOBR>2co 5:16</NOBR> Wherefore henceforth know we no man AFTER THE FLESH: yea, though we have known Christ AFTER THE FLESH, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
<NOBR>Joh 8:15</NOBR> Ye judge AFTER THE FLESH; I judge no man.
<NOBR>Ro 8:1</NOBR> There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not AFTER THE FLESH, but after the Spirit.
<NOBR>Ro 8:4</NOBR> That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not AFTER THE FLESH, but after the Spirit.
<NOBR>Ro 8:5</NOBR> For they that are AFTER THE FLESH do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
<NOBR>Ro 8:12</NOBR> Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live AFTER THE FLESH.
<NOBR>Ro 8:13</NOBR> For if ye live AFTER THE FLESH, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

I have told you over and over that I KNOW that Jesus, in his flesh, is a MALE.

So forget that for now.  I am speaking spiritual things.  You see all things in the flesh, so you cannot understand any of this.  Without the Holy Ghost, I suppose it is impossible to have a spiritual mind.  I have admonished others here, that they should pray for a spiritual mind,    trying only to help them.  Instead of understanding and seeking this spiritual help,  they got all puffed up and left.

 

They still speak only of the things of the world.

Where did you read that wisdom is the handmaiden and support of God?  who taught you that? What makes you think the 12 fruits of the Tree of Life have anything to do with natural Israel?  that is certainly not true or of God.

God said they are the bondchildren.  The people of FAITH or the true Israel and the true people of God.  The people of law NEVER WERE.

God made the worlds with wisdom.   That is his mind.

In order for Jesus to produce a child of God, he had to be as female to God.  God had to put his own seed into the soul (spirtual womb)  of Jesus.  The fleshly man, Jesus was not this son of God.  His born-again new man is this Son of God.

 

Our human bodies are our spiritual womb, for carrying the child of God,  inside ourselves.  We are responsible to this 'child of God' to nourish it, cherish it,  take care of it,  and make sure we do not abort it BEFORE the time.

What is the time of the birth?  The resurrection.  That is when that new child of God, will come forth, manifested as a child of God.

That flesh,  FEMALE,  to God,  is WITH CHILD.

Jesus was a virgin with child.  So is everyone who will come forth out of the grave, in the likeness and glory and IMAGE of HIM.

Now about the discussions in other groups, of which I spoke,  warning the children of God, of this TRAP of Satan.

 

See, I read those things also.  there is nothing wrong with reading other groups.  Especially when some of my little ones I care for, In Christ, are there, being influenced by those evil lies of man.

So do not judge my ministry from God either.  Not unless you hear from HIM.

Now, I see that those who keep that stuff going, are not really concerned with seeking God's truth.  They are only concerned with misusing HIS Word, to try to justify their own sinful living and lusts.  But they distort HIS Truth and mislead others.

They are not  open to what God shows others or HIS Word.  They are set to prove their own sinful lives to be ok.  A true minister of God must correct these lies and show the sheep of God that these wolves are out there, seeking to destroy their own spiritual lives.

  (How many souls do you think will be influenced with these lies and therefore live in sin and miss God?  You say you seek to save them.  Then you must correct error in order to save them.  See that is why I correct these lies,   to save them.)

So even if you never understand this, or my calling and purpose from God,  I still must do what He teaches me to do,  which is expose these evils and bring the truth He gave me out of HIS Word.

The first Israel was the Lord in Heaven, not the natural jews.  The first Wife of God was Jesus Christ.  He had that seed of God inside himself all the days of his earthly life.

He fed that child of God inside himself,  the food of God, = the Scriptures.

He walked in the spirit to feed that child of God spiritual things so that child of God would come forth at the birth, as a live child of God.

Now if that baffles you,  just pray and seek truth.

God is the hightest life there is.  He is the highest power.  His life  gives life to others.  He imparts life to others.  First he imparted this life to Jesus.

Now in order for Jesus to receive this life,  He had to be wife to God.  Has not one thing to do with fleshly stuff.  READ THIS.

Read this>  digest this.   All men are female to the Spirit.

All men are female to God.  All women are female to God. (not fleshly!!!!!!)

But when God gives any one of us the power to impart life,  that  makes us MALE to others.  Jesus is male to us.  But he will never be male to God.  We will never be male to Jesus.  Jesus is our head, or husband, or authority over us.  He is not authority over God .  God is his head, or husband.  Now that is spiritual meat,  deep stuff of God,  not carnal junk.

 

Paul said he had BEGOTTEN others to God.

Think on this.

 

Jo


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 9/6/2008 7:47 PM

John 6:63---It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the WORDS that I speak unto you, they are SPIRIT, and they are LIFE (words are life)  so the words he spoke is the tree of LIFE.)

Quicken means to make alive; so here is proof that the WORDS are the Spirit and they are the LIFE. So His words, unchanged, (perverted) is the Tree of Life.

John 6: v27---Labour not for the MEAT which perisheth, but for that MEAT which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto: for him hath God the Father sealed.  (Meat = something to EAT = his FLESH= tree of life= the words he SPOKE)

Now, we have added another symbol for that tree of life = MEAT. We EAT this MEAT and it gives us eternal life. So again, this has to be eating for the mind.

v33---For the BREAD of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth LIFE unto the world. (so the words he spoke is the BREAD which gives LIFE;  so this is the TREE OF LIFE)

v35--Jesus said, I am the bread of life; he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

Now, there is another symbol for the fruit of that tree; BREAD. Again, food, but food for the mind or spirit.

v48--I am that BREAD of life.

v51--..if any man EAT of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. (So, eating this bread, or his WORDS, gives eternal life)...so it is the TREE OF LIFE.

v52---The Jews strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?

This is what you are doing. How can Jesus give us his FLESH TO EAT? That you must come to grips with this, if you desire eternal life.

v54--Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

v55---For my flesh is MEAT indeed, and my blood is DRINK indeed.

v56---He that eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

v58---...he that eateth of this BREAD shall live for ever.

v63---It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: (here he speaks of his human body; that it profiteth nothing)--the WORDS that I SPEAK unto you, THEY are SPIRIT, and they are LIFE.

Now, there you have the symbols for the fruit of the Tree of Life: Light, water, meat, bread, blood, drink, roll, book, but it all is the WORD of God, unperverted or changed.

The Word was the Flesh; the flesh was the Word. The Word became Flesh = words brought and taught by Jesus; not his human body. This Word is what was God; This Word is what came here for us to EAT to have everlasting life.

You people trying to say God was Jesus, because he was flesh, you had better come to see this. Or you had better find out what the Jews wanted to know---How is this man going to give us his flesh to eat? and drink his Blood? How are you going to do it, you that think it refers to his natural body?


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