i own a group that is only defence forces we will never slag on our members plus half of it here been copyied from my group just been givin a diffnet name and were a AUSTRLIAN AND US military group were owned by the miltary for the military while your there add a message few photos and a few other things plus we got something even better then a graphics desiner we got a photographer plus we never pick on our members all of our pages are military so wonder over to http://groups.msn.com/allnavy you will love what you see