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| | From: Aalie- (Original Message) | Sent: 6/8/2005 7:50 PM |
Please answer this question and not by what you think but what you believe the Bible teaches with Scripture references. If a couple that is married are having problems and they get a divorse. Then they get back together. Yet no one ever was unfaithful to each other. They just start living together because they believe that in God's eyes they are still married, yet they do not have another marriage ceremony. Are they living in sin, or are they Ok in the sight of God?? |
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| | From: JJK | Sent: 6/9/2005 8:46 PM |
Aalie In scripture, God tells us to follow the "laws of the land" or in other words, "laws that mankind has enacted." I believe this would support the fact that God would expect us to get re-married so we are in compliance with the laws of man. I will look for this scripture when I get a chance and post it. God Bless JJ |
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| | From: Aalie- | Sent: 6/11/2005 4:23 AM |
Aalie, I wanted to post a question similar to yours.I'll answer your question tomorrow, didn't feel well today I slept a lot.Answer follows tomorrow .Sorry.
love,
eelya | Reply
| | 1 Cor. 7 10And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband: 11But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife. Mark 10 2And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him. 3And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you? 4And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away. 5And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. 6But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. 7For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; 8And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. 9What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. 10And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter. 11And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. 12And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery Mt 5 31It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: 32But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery. I don't see anything specifically about your question, but maybe these verses will help. :) | | Reply
| | Thank you Olive, I will post some other thought that people have after I hear what Eelya says. I will also share some more on this myself a little later. Love to hear some more comments from folks here. Love, Aalie | | Reply
| | Hi Aalie, I think they don't live in sin. The only reason for divorce in the Bible is adultery. The divorce was wrong, maybe not in this case to the USA-Law, but to the Law of Christ. They gave their marriage-promisses once and for all before God and the witnesses. Maybe they are FOR THE USA-LAW no longer married. In order to give no reason for gossip they maybe can annouce to the community and/or church that they have renewed their marriage-promisses for God and the witnesses by means of a formal announcement. I hope that this is an answer to your question. Love and greetings, Brother Elle | | |
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| | From: Aalie- | Sent: 6/11/2005 4:24 AM |
Aalie, perhaps you will get my message twice, I got confirmation that it was send and it didn't appear on the message board.
I agree with Elle that those people don't live in sin, they shouldn't have divorced in the first place, but have lived separately for a while.
But like in 1 Corinth.7: 11,Olive already gave the bibleverse, they reconciled.
About a marriage ceremony: I find no verse in the bible were God commands to have a church ceremony.
But christians should always marry for the law of their country, giving a good example in the world. Not hust living together.
Some christians say that a marriage without a blessing of the pastor has no value!!! Don't find this in the bible. Besides, what should christians do if they do not visit a church?If there is no christian church in their neighbourhood?
A marriage is made before God, not before men.
Perhaps someone knows a bibleverse where is said that it is obliged to have a ceremony in church?
I don't know; . Aalie, I haven't been of much help, Olive and Elle already answered the question.
love,
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| | Thank you for your comments and the Scripture references here. Olive, Elle and Eelya. If anyone else has any other light concerning this , I would appreciate your input. There is a couple in my church who confessed this situation in their lives to me personally. I told them, it would be best to get remarried and make things legal. Also because even if they do not believe they are sinning, there are others that do, and their lifestyle affects others around them. "Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend." I Cor. 8:13 I also posted this very same question at the Christian Discussion group, you can view their comments at: or go straight to the message by clicking: | | Reply
| | Yes, They need to re-marry!!!!!! They are divorced and in God's eyes are no longer one!!!!!!!! Once you are divorced Aalie that is it!!!!!!!! They can marry whoever they want to now!!!!!! They are living in sin and one sin is no greater than another!!!!!! A sin is a sin!!!!!! They need to re-marry and they will be one again in God's eye's!!!!! It is the same as if they were to just live with different mate's!!!!!! If she moved in with another man or he moved in with another woman ,so it is all the same!!!!!! They are not married and need to do so!!!!!!! That is God's law and not man's!!!! Today society accept's live in but God doesn't!!!!! Yes they need to re-marry my dear!!!!!!!! I love you, Sonshine Sorry I don't have scripture to back my statement up but it is the word and not mine!!!!!! | | Reply
| | Aalie, I read those messages on "christian discussions." One of the members says that the reason for divorce is NOt adultery but fornication.That Jesus uses two different words in Greek: fornication, which is porneio and maichao, which is aldultery. But Jesus didn't speak Greek but Aramese and originally the bible wasn't written in Greek. In our Dutch bibles: echtbreuk, which is the same as adultery.Greek is already a translation from the original Hebrew and it was not His intention that everyone should study old languages. I always thought that adultery had to do with two partners one being unfaithful to another. And fornication all the sins named in Deuteronomy. Sin is sin, and like Suzy said:one sin is no greater than another. But they have to remarry.It would have been better for them to live separately for while. I also have a few questions about remarriage, I'll post them tomorrow.
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| | From: Aalie- | Sent: 6/11/2005 4:27 AM |
Well, now if you want opinions, I agree with Suzy. But I did not post that opinion, because I just feel it, and do not have specific scripture to back it up. I feel that Suzy is right, though. | Reply
| | Thanks for all your comments , verses, and sharing. I know that God says that He hates divorce. But he has allowed it to be so, because of the hardness of hearts. Maybe because it is so hard for some people to forgive a partner's wrong doing. Unforgiveness may be as bad as any other sin, I know no one that has unforgiveness will be forgiven by the Lord. It would be better if a couple would just separate instead of divorcing each other, especially if there is no other person involved in the breaking up of the marriage. 1Cor. 7 has a lot of advice to married people, and the regulations there involved.In verses 10-15 it talks there that a marriage partner ( a believer) should not leave, but if they do they should not remarry. This is for the sake of the children. But if the unbelieving husband or wife does the leaving the believing spouse has a right to get remarried. I believe the Lord has established marriage and is willing that differences should be worked out, and that a partner should work on forgiving. Because the believing spouse may very well be the instrument that God uses for the salvation of their partner and their children. Now, I do not see anywhere in Scripture that the couple who gets a divorce and then reconciles, that they must remarry. Yet it sure makes sense at least in the natural. Also especially if they are Christians, should they have a desire to make things legal. For one thing to protect themselves. The laws of the land were also given by God, that we need to follow. This is for our own good. Unless of course the laws of the land go against the Word of God. Then we follow God's laws instead. I may have more on this later, and welcome any other comments or insights that you may have. God bless you, Aalie | | Reply
| | Aalie I have been told that because my ex-husband moved out of our home, and moved into this woman's home, that I could get married again, because he was committing adultery. Somewhere in the bible, I read it out loud to Jennifer, that I interpreted that way, and my daughter did to. I don't plan on getting married again, but that is what I was told, and got the interpertaion out of the bible. I would have to find that verse in the bible, but I could be wrong about it. God bless you. Love Patsy | | Reply
| | Patsy, I believe you have a scriptural right to get remarried. Because of his unfaithfulness. Under such circumstance, or his leaving you would free you to do this. Except you are only allowed to marry another believer . Same goes for me!! My husband died, I was bound unto him while he was alive, but when he died I was loosed to that law. Now I may remarry but only in the Lord. That means only a believer. Love, Aalie | | |
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Ref: message #10: The New Testament was written primarily in Greek. |
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