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General : Possible cure??!!  
     
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From: MSN Nickname-karend1  (Original Message)Sent: 11/18/2008 2:51 AM
 
 


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From: MSN NicknamemzalemapSent: 11/18/2008 1:52 PM
Wow Karen,
 
That is exciting, but as usual, you're left wondering about the drugs over long term use.
 
Pam

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From: MSN NicknameSuzannaOR1Sent: 11/18/2008 10:38 PM
Very interesting ... and maybe on the market within a year?  if I heard correctly.  But as Pam says, you can't help but wonder about the long term effects.  Something to watch anyway.
 
Suzanna

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From: MSN NicknameTraveler100Sent: 11/18/2008 10:40 PM
This is very exciting news and would be a boon to t-1 diabetics.  I pray that they find that it works in humans.
Trav

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From: MSN NicknameChapterThirtyOneSent: 11/19/2008 4:48 AM
I googled Gleevac and Type 1 diabetes and it sounds as if this works in recently diagnosed diabetic mice or those identified as high risk. Does anyone know how children or mice are identified to be at "high risk" for developing Type 1 diabetes? I hope it works for us long timers. The articles also said that the treatment worked in 80% of the mice. I'd like to know what didn't work in the other 20%. It would be nice to be cure before something else goes wrong!
 
Sarah
 

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From: MSN NicknameSamQKittySent: 11/19/2008 11:47 PM
This is one of those times when I wish promising medical news wouldn't be released so early.  First of all, this has only been tested in mice so far and, as we all know, the results frequently end up not translating well when it's tested in humans.
 
But the second, more important point, is that both of these drugs, Gleevec and Sutent, have some potential side effects.  Now, they may not be serious, but they certainly might change the risk/benefit evaluation.  The side effects are similar for both drugs, but the information I got when I googled Sutent was stated more clearly, so here it is, for what it's worth.
 
Ruth
 
The following side effects are common (occurring in greater than 30%) for patients taking Sutent:

The following side effects are less common (occurring in 29-10%) for patients receiving Sutent:

Rare (2-3%) but serious side effects may include problems with blood clots. Blood clots can lead to pulmonary embolus or stroke ?potentially life-threatening conditions.

This list includes common and less common side effects for those taking Sutent.  Side effects that are very rare -- occurring in less than about 10 percent of patients -- are not listed here. But you should always inform your health care provider if you experience any unusual symptoms.

When To Contact Your Doctor or Health Care Provider:

Contact your health care provider immediately, day or night, if you should experience any of the following symptoms:

  • Fever of 100.5º F (38º C) or higher, chills (possible signs of infection)

The following symptoms require medical attention, but are not an emergency. Contact your health care provider within 24 hours of noticing any of the following:

  • Nausea (interferes with ability to eat and unrelieved with prescribed medication).
  • Vomiting (vomiting more than 4-5 times in a 24 hour period).
  • Diarrhea (4-6 episodes in a 24-hour period).
  • Unable to eat or drink for 24 hours or have signs of dehydration: tiredness, thirst, dry mouth, dark and decreased amount of urine, or dizziness.
  • Unusual bleeding or bruising
  • Black or tarry stools, or blood in your stools.
  • Blood in the urine.
  • Pain or burning with urination.
  • Extreme fatigue (unable to carry on self-care activities).
  • Mouth sores (painful redness, swelling or ulcers).
  • Swelling, redness and/or pain in one leg or arm and not the other (may be signs and symptoms of blood clot)

Always inform your health care provider if you experience any unusual symptoms.

Sutent Precautions:

  • Before starting Sutent treatment, make sure you tell your doctor about any other medications you are taking (including prescription, over-the-counter, vitamins, herbal remedies, etc.). Do not take aspirin, products containing aspirin unless your doctor specifically permits this.
  • Avoid the herbal preparation St. John's wort (may increase metabolism and decrease Sutent concentrations). 
  • Do not receive any kind of immunization or vaccination without your doctor’s approval while taking Sutent.
  • Inform your health care professional if you are pregnant or may be pregnant prior to starting this treatment. Pregnancy category D (may be hazardous to the fetus. Women who are pregnant or become pregnant must be advised of the potential hazard to the fetus.)
  • For both men and women: Use contraceptives, and do not conceive a child (get pregnant) while taking Sutent. Barrier methods of contraception, such as condoms, are recommended.
  • Do not breast feed while taking Sutent.

Sutent Self Care Tips:

  • Drink at least two to three quarts of fluid every 24 hours, unless you are instructed otherwise.
  • You may be at risk of infection so try to avoid crowds or people with colds, and report fever or any other signs of infection immediately to your health care provider.
  • Wash your hands often.
  • To help treat/prevent mouth sores, use a soft toothbrush, and rinse three times a day with 1 teaspoon of baking soda mixed with 8 ounces of water.
  • Use an electric razor and a soft toothbrush to minimize bleeding.
  • Avoid contact sports or activities that could cause injury.
  • To reduce nausea, take anti-nausea medications as prescribed by your doctor, and eat small, frequent meals.
  • Prevention of hand-foot syndrome. Modification of normal activities of daily living to reduce friction and heat exposure to hands and feet, for about a week after treatment. (for more information see - Managing side effects: hand foot syndrome)
  • Keep palms of hands and soles of feet moist using emollients.
  • Avoid sun exposure. Wear SPF 15 (or higher) sunblock and protective clothing.
  • In general, drinking alcoholic beverages should be kept to a minimum or avoided completely. You should discuss this with your doctor.
  • Get plenty of rest.
  • Maintain good nutrition.
  • If you experience symptoms or side effects, be sure to discuss them with your health care team. They can prescribe medications and/or offer other suggestions that are effective in managing such problems.

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From: MSN Nickname_Cat_Collector_Sent: 11/20/2008 1:43 AM
One thing they did say was  you wouldnt have to take the drug long term   I belive he said  6 weeks ..... I know this is still in the trial stage with mice  but  not having to take a drug  long term  sure sounds more promising .  Another thing to  think about it all drugs have side affects .
 
 I guess we  just pray this  could be it .
 
 Im wondering for all you long timers  how many times  have you heard of a possible  cure and then it fell through ?   I know you have probably  been told  there would be a cure  many times  but have you  actually  heard news  like we are hearing  now  with this and  Dr, Faustmans (sp)  trails .  I have only been  dx for  9 years  so for me this seems so promising .
 
 
Tracy

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From: MSN NicknameChapterThirtyOneSent: 11/20/2008 1:50 AM
Good point that all drugs have side effects. I am not a believer that the immune system can be "fooled". This is is immunosuppression, plain and simple. It would be so awesome if this program of treatment could "re-program" whatever went wrong initially, but who knows what else it could re-program in the process? Better to KNOW *what* caused our immune systems to go haywire in the first place, before we try to reprogram them.
 
Sarah 

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From: MSN NicknameDennis5723Sent: 11/20/2008 11:44 PM
This sounds very promising and gives me great hope. My guess is that the medication would kill
the cells in our body that are attacking our beta cells.
 
Dennis

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