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From: MSN NicknameChloe-Cat  (Original Message)Sent: 9/13/2008 7:45 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknamequilts4me</NOBR>  (Original Message) Sent: 13/09/2008 00:37
I am trying to find the father of my grandfather Daniel Brogan. He was born in Donegal in 1858 and his father was John Brogan. We do not know his mother's name.

He married Margaret Dougherty (or Doherty) who was also born in Donegal in 1860 and immigrated to Philadelphia with her sister where she then she married Daniel. We don't know if they knew each other in Ireland or not.

They lived in Rupert Idaho after moving from Phil.

Any help would be appreciated as I am at a dead end with trying to find ancestors for both of them.


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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 9/13/2008 12:29 PM
A few Questions that may help
1 Names of Parents [I know John ]
2 Margarets Sisters Name
3 Any Clues to the Area of Donegal
4 Any references on Death cert.
 
Mike

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 Message 6 of 19 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 9/13/2008 1:54 PM
Daniels Death is listed in Ancestry.com
 
BROGAN, DANIEL year Minidoka city dd mm 1918 date info

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 Message 7 of 19 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 9/13/2008 2:19 PM
Hi Again Hope i am getting the Right person Is your Name Maureen.A message was passed on to me with Ref to a John Brogan Who went to Oz.
I have asked a friend in Oz if she can help.
Any Details you have,Will Assist us.If we can find John it may have details Of where in Donegal They were from
 
Mike

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 Message 8 of 19 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 9/13/2008 3:33 PM
Maureen On the Right hand Side I have added a pic Of The grave.If you want me to Remove i can
 
Mike

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From: MSN Nicknamequilts4meSent: 9/14/2008 4:51 PM
John is the only name I know. Margaret listed it on Daniel's death certificate. She wrote "don't know" for mother.

My father talked about being cousin to a Denis Brogan, !900-1974,- who wrote history books in England.
That is my only other clue to the family in Ireland. Is there a way to find out Denis's family tree?

Margaret sister's name was possibly Catherine or Grace.

The branch of Brogan's I am related to had a reunion in Reno in the 70's but I can find no information online. It is sad that all connections have been lost.

I appreciate your help and you have given me several ideas.
Thank you for the headstone picture. I had thought that Margaret died in San Francisco. I will now try to find her death certificate in Idaho.

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 9/14/2008 5:13 PM
Maureen Contact Mar Cemetary In Rupert Idaho they will give you the Details OF THE BURIALS.The next of kin Will have signed the Burial Records.Once you find out Where they died.You may be able to get the Death Cert,That should have More Detail.Hopefully then we can Take it Further.Its a very Difficult Situation with Irish records So Many John brogans listed in Donegal.
Will CHECK OUT YOUR INFO on Denis
 
Mike

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 Message 11 of 19 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 9/14/2008 5:29 PM
Maureen two things of Interest,A lot of Brogans moved from Ireland to Glasgow Area.In one of your Messages it mentions the Devonia,This ship sailed from Glasgow in 1893
 
1893   Glasgow       New York   Sept. 24  Also reported arrive 1893-09-25
S/S Devonia, Anchor Line

DEVONIA (Anchor) Saloon Passenger List. Glasgow-NY, Oct 11 1893.
 
I have checked out a Denis Brogan He was Made a Sir Denis Brogan,For his Works.He was born in Glasgow
 
 
So could This Family Also have Moved there
 
Mike

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 9/14/2008 5:37 PM
This is Just a Suggestion,What i Suggest is to Contact the University in Glasgow,He was still alive in 1963 But Died in 1974  so Family would Probably still be living in Glasgow.
I will Check a few Resourses and Get Back to you
 
Mike

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 9/14/2008 6:16 PM
Maureen i have Checked out Sir Denis,He had a Brother Colm Brogan Born in Donegal ,So i think we have the same Family
 
Sir Denis William Brogan (born August 11, 1900 in Glasgow, Scotland; died January 5, 1974), British author and historian.
He studied in Glasgow, Oxford, and Harvard.
From 1939 to 1968, he was professor of political science in Cambridge.
In 1963, he received a knighthood.
He was the brother of journalist Colm Brogan and the father of historian Hugh Brogan.

Denis Hugh Vercingetorix Brogan, born 20 March 1936, known as Hugh Brogan, is a British historian and biographer
The son of Sir Denis Brogan, he was educated at St Faith's School, Cambridge, Repton School, and St John's College, Cambridge, graduating BA in 1959 and MA in 1964.[1
Brogan was on the staff of The Economist from 1960 to 1963, and was elected a Harkness Fellow in 1962, then was a fellow of St John's College, Cambridge, from 1963 to 1974.[1] He was then part of the department of history at the University of Essex from 1974 to 1998, first as a lecturer, then a reader, and finally as R. A. Butler Professor of History from 1992 to 1998.[1]
Colm Brogan
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Colm Brogan (20 October, 1902 - 28 January, 1977) was a Scottish journalist and author.
He wrote for The Herald and also pamphlets for the Conservative Party. His family was originally from Donegal.[1]
His brother was the historian Denis William Brogan.
He reviewed Whittaker Chambers's posthumous book in "The Comfort of Cold Friday"[1] for National Review magazine (December 29, 1964).
In Who are « the People » published in 1943, he develops the idea that political ideologies of the Left are responsible for the raise to power of Adolf Hitler. He continued with this thesis in Our New Masters, published in 1947[2].
 

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 Message 14 of 19 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 9/14/2008 6:39 PM
slight mistake on Colm his Family Were born in Donegal not him
 
Mike

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 Message 15 of 19 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 9/14/2008 7:34 PM
Maureen Liz found a John that Arrived in Oz in 1882
 
    I have checked victoria & nsw with no result
> The only one I can find is a John BROGAN aged 22 years who went to
> Queensland on ship Chyebassa on 3.5.1882
> I cannot check south aust. or western aust or tasmania as I don't have
> those
> dates for those states
> Liz

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 Message 16 of 19 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 9/15/2008 6:05 PM
Maureen MARIAN our manager has Denis Williams Family For you.Dont  Forget That ColmBrogan was not Born until1902 Missing the Census
 
Mike
 

1901 Scotland Census
about Denis William Brogan

Name: Denis William Brogan
Age: 7 months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Denis
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/6
Registration district: St Rollox
Civil Parish: Glasgow St David
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 48 Holmhead Street
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 24
Line: 6
Roll: CSSCT1901_286
Household Members:
Name Age
Denis Brogan 44
Denis William Brogan 7 moths
Elizabeth Brogan 38
Hugh Boyle Brogan 9
John Brogan 15
Mary Brogan 18
Margaret Maloney 19
Unfortunately, we are unable to display the accompanying images of this census at present, despite extensive negotiation with the General Register Office for Scotland. Permission from them has not, as yet, been forthcoming. For this reason, and to enable you to continue with your family history research, Ancestry has heavily transcribed the Scottish Census records to ensure you have access to all key areas of information contained within this colle

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 9/15/2008 6:52 PM
Maureen This site Lists most Brogan Births In the Donegal Area And Scotland
 
 
I have Also found a Denis And Elizabeth Logue.If the Same Denis and Elizabeth
Lived in Dunfanaghy, Don, Ire
I cant Be sure this Is Sir Denis Brogans Father.
But its the Only Denis and Elizabeth Listed.
We know That the Marriage must have been Abt 1873,If Correct Denis and Elizabeth.There was a Daughter  Born in 1874  Sophia Brogan Pedigree
  Female    
   
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Event(s):
 Birth:  14 JAN 1874   , Donegal, Ireland
 
There is a Daniel listed there Father Owen And Grace Gallagher But born in 1867
Crossroads Donegal
 
But feel this Is not Correct As you Said Father was John
 
Mike

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 9/15/2008 7:53 PM
Maureen we can ignore the Last Message Elizabeths Surname was Toner.
There is a Small tree in Ancestry but No Contact
 
Mike

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From: MSN Nicknamemickym1951Sent: 9/15/2008 8:17 PM
Maureen the Son of  Denis William Brogan is Still Alive,It may be Worth Trying to find Him.i KNOW its a hard task but,he may have more info on the Family
 
Denis Hugh Vercingetorix Brogan, born 20 March 1936, known as Hugh Brogan

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