Thanks the info was spot on   But I have a problem finding john baldwins parents  I have a joseph baldwin  married  ellen graystick and lived in the same area that john later lived in but it has john born 1812.

I have John baldwin   married mrs margaret baldwin   the have a son john born 1817  but they are from a totally different part of town is there any help you can give me  please keep up the good work    Regards Barry Joyce