Rob you can find these on free Bmd

Hello Folks,

 

Thanks for the replies,have had some attempts at tracing marriages with common names and got a bit discouraged.However will have another look  and see if I can confirm if any are "mine" by trying to check out on later Census returns.Will let you know how it goes,Mike.

 

The reply from the Manchester Police Museum suggested Renwick Place(I had contacted them suggesting it could have been Beswick Place,Jan,my wife,has a collection of Beswick animal figures so I could have been biased).

 

Re my comments about whether William may have been dead in 1860(because the Marriage record doesn't give vital details)is a bit shaky now as we have just received an English marriage record of another of my wifes relatives where it clearly states that the Father is deceased in the Occupation/Profession area.Is this unusual?

 

Best Wishes,

 

Rob

Hi Rob,Put under B

 

I have searched Ancestry for the Bennetts after 1841 -- but in vain.
 
Then it occurred to me that maybe someone died, and I found this death record in Salford, which is Manchester.
 
 
      Deaths Mar 1844   (>99%)
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Bennett  Maria     Salford  20 650  

 

 

 

Marian
 

Hi Mike and Marian,

 

Thanks for the tips,have had a good look at Marriages but all ends up on a roundabout,going no-where.The Death registration sounds interesting as I don't think there were many Marias' about and it may be worth getting a Certificate on that.

According to my records Maria(daughter)would have been born c1843,Maria senior would have been in her mid-30s.Have checked GRO Images and there is an entry on March 1843 record for a Maria Bennett,B.Manchester V20 Pg633.Have checked all 1843 quarters and 1st quarter 1844,no other Maria born Manchester(or Salford)so will have to spend up big and go for Birth Cert for Maria jnr and D.cert fo Maria Snr.Will let you know results.However,while this could solve 1 half of our William-Maria puzzle,William is still out in the unknown.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Rob

Hi Mike and Marian(again),

 

Have applied for Death Cert.of Maria snr and for Birth Cert.of maria jnr.Hope this will resolve half the issue.

 

Of the possible marriages suggested(and a lot of other possibles that I looked at)only one looks promising,that of  Sept 1863 of Mary Ann Bennett to Robert Rennie.I have an IGI ref.for Mary Ann's Baptism giving 1828 as the year(1841 Census has 1831 and Census' with Mary (Ann)Rennie,1871/1881/1891 have b.1832/33).At the moment am not sending for marriage cert.as will not help find William Bennett that way.However,seems that Mary A.has a daughter,Mary Bennett,age 17 on the 1871 census,also has 3 younger children,Annie,Jane and Sarah(all names of my Mary Ann's sisters)all surname Rennie.I have found Death Reg.for Mary Ann Rennie in Salford,Dec.quarter 1892,aged about 61.

The question,of course,is could this have been a Mary Ann Bennett(maiden name)or a Mary Ann(M.name unknown)who married a Bennett and made a 2nd match with Robert Rennie?Must say I feel this could be my relative but I have not been able to trace Mary jnr on 1861 Census,or her mother for that matter,although I have a Mary Bennett,age 29,b.Manchester,living in Hulme,Chorlton as a Lodger.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Rob and Jan

Hi Mike and Marian,

 

Have now received the Death Cert.for Maria Bennett which confirms that she was the wife of Wlliam who is the informant on the Cert.He is listed as Turnkey at the New Bailey.Maria died of Ulcers on Hip and Dropsey.

The Birth cert.of Maria(jnr)also confirms relationship to William and Maria and gives their address as Beswick's Row.

That looks like part of the problem solved,however there is still the problem of William.Perhaps you can help me with some information here,I have found a death reg.in the same district and Quarter as that of Maria(Mch.1844)but the ref.is V20Pg627.Is this an earlier entry than that of Maria(V20Pg650)or could it be a page for special entries,ie Suicides?Obviously if it is earlier it can't be"my"William as he was informant on Maria's D.Cert.

I am inclined to apply for Death Cert.if it could be William.Have looked through GRO Death Reg.pages up to 1848,no other Salford entry for a William Bennett up to then but at least 2 for Manchester in 1848 so have let that go for the moment until this issue of the 1844 Salford reg.is resolved.

Look forward to your advice.

 

Regards,

 

Rob and Jan

Hi Rob

 

So glad we were able to help you find what happened to Maria.

 

I have just checked FreeBMD and found the following death records.  I notice that you stopped checking at 1848, but you will see that there is another record in March 1850 in Salford which I have listed below.

 

 

 

It could of course be either of these last two, but from what you say it seems more likely to be the March 1850.

 

Let us know how you get on.

 

Marian

Hi Rob and Jan

 

The only way you are going to be sure, of course, is by ordering one or both death certs.  What I would suggest is to go with your gut feeling and get the one you feel is most likely to be the right one. 

 

All the best.

 

Marian

Thanks Marian,

 

I think the 1850 date makes more sense too.Will let you know the outcome either way.

 

Best wishes,

 

Rob

Hello,

 

Have the death certs' for the 1844 and 1850 dates and neither are William the policeman,guess we will leave this one here and accept his eventual demise.

 

Regards,

 

Rob and Jan Kellett

hello,

Just going through all the messages and came to your dilemma about William Bennet. Are there any records for the Bailey, after all if he was a prison officer/police man then perhaps he died at the prison so on record there?

 

Was turnkey always a policeman or did this term cover such occupations as watchman or guard too.

If it was a term used fo multiple occupations then perhaps a review of the name in census with location given as the nearest lock-up / goal might be an option

 

Suzanne (Australia)

 

Hi Rob,If You Get this Message ok,I found Jane Bennett, She was Christened 8th Nov 1840 In Cathedral Manchester

Parents William And Maria Bennett.It would be worth Checking Registrations for Manchester 1840.As her Birth Cert will have Parents full names

 

Mike

Rob I have Checked it out for you

 

Births Sep 1840   (>99%)
Bennett	Jane		Manchester	20	567

Hello Mike and All,

 

Have now found that the 1851 Census returns for Salford and some other parts of Manchester were severely water damaged.Probably accounts for lack of success in searching for William Bennett,same situation also applies to my ancestors John and May Foster,also from Salford who are unlocatable in 1851(but do appear 1861 onwards).

 

Regards,

 

Rob and jan