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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKate  (Original Message)Sent: 4/9/2008 8:52 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknamenanna1961</NOBR>  (Original Message) Sent: 2008/04/07 07:01 AM
Hi Teri
Mike said to see if you could help me I'm searching for a marriage for Henry CRAGG & Mary Ann Guddes (GEDDES,GADDIS) they where married in Scotland in 1846 according to there daughters birth cert I have been told and also found a marriage for Henry & Mary Ann in GRETNA GREEN but am dissapointed with the site that says they have this certificate was wondering if you could find this marriage anywhere his parents are Joseph CRAGG(CRAIG) & Hannah GRAVES all born ENG & her parents are Alexander GEDDES & Martha TAYLOR/COOPER all born IRE Alexander died in 1840 any help greatly appreciated
Lee


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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 4/9/2008 8:54 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameTeri48</NOBR> Sent: 2008/04/09 08:01 PM
Hi Lee
I'm afraid I had absolutely no luck in locating a marriage for Henry and Mary whilst at the records office.  I tried all around the Gretna area from 1840 to 1853 with no luck then moved out to the rest of Scotland and yet again nothing.  All possible spellings of the surnames were tried.  There are 2 reasons why this could be:
Firstly in Scotland the Old Parish Records are all Church of Scotland records so if your ancestors were of any other religious denomination, no records are readily available.  It is only from 1855 when civil registration began that all births, deaths and marriages were recorded regardless of religion
 
The other reason is quite simply that the parish did not have records going that far back.
I know this is very disappointing for you and I'm so sorry I could not help.
Cheers
Teri

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 4/9/2008 8:56 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknamemickym1951</NOBR> Sent: 2008/04/09 08:27 PM
Lee - I felt sure that there must be something on Joseph Cragg And Hannah. My presumption was Right,But they have Hannah as Grave not Graves.
 
Mike
 
 
JOSEPH CRAGG Pedigree
  Male   Family
   
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Event(s):
 Birth: 
 Christening: 
 Death: 
 Burial: 
   
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Marriages:
  Spouse:  HANNAH GRAVE  Family
  Marriage:  01 DEC 1823   Brigham, Cumberland, England

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 4/9/2008 8:59 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknamemickym1951</NOBR> Sent: 2008/04/09 08:30 PM
Lee these were the children.
Mike
 
 
1. HENRY CRAGG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 05 MAR 1827
 
 2. HENRY CRAGG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 08 APR 1827 Independent, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England
 
 3. ISAAC CRAGG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 30 JAN 1825 Independent, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England
 
 4. ROBERT CRAGG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 10 JUL 1834
 
 5. ROBERT CRAGG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 18 APR 1837 Independent, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England
 
 6. JOHN CRAGG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 26 JUN 1832
 
 7. JOHN CRAGG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 22 JUL 1832 Independent, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England
 
 8. JOSEPH CRAGG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 01 MAY 1829
 
 9. JOSEPH CRAGG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 17 MAY 1829 Independent, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England
 
 10. WILLIAM CRAGG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 20 MAR 1837
 
 11. WILLIAM CRAGG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 18 APR 1837 Independent, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England
 
 12. HANNAH CRAGG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 01 AUG 1845 All Saints, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 4/9/2008 9:00 PM
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknamemickym1951</NOBR> Sent: 2008/04/09 08:40 PM
Lee there was one registration of Birth For Hannah
 
Births Sep 1845   (>99%)
Cragg  Hannah    Cockermouth  25 81

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From: MSN NicknameConnemaraKateSent: 4/9/2008 9:02 PM
 
Finally Lee, I found 3 children for Henry and Mary Ann.
Mike
 
 
1. JOHN CRAG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 30 NOV 1854 All Saints, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England
 
 2. MARTHA CRAGG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 27 JUL 1851 All Saints, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England
 
 3. JOSEPH HENRY CRAGG - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 21 FEB 1847 All Saints, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

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From: MSN Nicknamenanna1961Sent: 4/10/2008 1:52 AM
Hi Teri thankyou all the info you have found is correct The GEDDES where from  Tyrone Ireland the CRAGG'S from Eng I did find a marriage for a Henry & Mary Ann at a site called achievements co uk I emailed them to see if they could tell me the yr but they offered to do a family search that would cost me 450 pounds I have all the family on both side I told them this and asked again I don't mind paying the 15 pounds for it but it's alot in Aus dollars if it's not mine 3 times I have emailed them and they don't answer they could atleast so no we won't tell you well I suppose I'll just have to save some more pennies and hope for the best thankyou Teri your help is very much appreciated
Lee

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From: MSN NicknameTeri48Sent: 4/20/2008 4:25 PM
Hi Lee
Do you have a LDS Family History Centre near you?  I'm just going through their online catalogue for Co Tyrone and came across the following:
 
Microfilm of photocopies of 11 charts (13 leaves; typewritten and handwritten) donated by Norma Geddes Cameron Scriver, Burlington, Ontario, Canada.

Original charts were created in 1960 by Arnold McNaughton. Additional information has been added in handwritten notes up to 1994. Some of the information was added by Norma Geddes Cameron Scriver.

Includes an introductory letter by Arnold McNaughton.

Includes Hamilton, Parkinson, Campbell, McWhinnie and related families.

Contains eleven descendancy charts on the Geddes family beginning with Andrew Geddes who died May 25, 1857. The Geddes ancestors originally came from Scotland. Andrew's son, Andrew, was born in 1822 in County Tyrone, Ireland. He married Mary Ann Cottingham in 1854. He died in 1899 in Ormstown, Quebec, Canada. The Geddes family immigrated to Canada sometime in the early 1800's and settled in southwestern Quebec. Joseph Geddes (d. 1862), another son of the first Andrew, moved to New York City. The charts contain primarily names and dates. The few localities mentioned include Quebec, New York, Vermont, New Hampshire and Florida.
 
 
I dont know if this would be in anyway related to your Geddes family from Co Tyrone.
Cheers
Teri

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From: MSN Nicknamenanna1961Sent: 4/21/2008 3:59 AM
Hi Teri there is a lds in the area I have to order anything I want to look at as it dosen't keep alot I have all the Geddes back to Samuel Geddes who was born app 1700 he married Dorcas first name unknown Samuel was born Tyrone Ireland it is mainly the marriage for Henry CRAGG & Mary Ann GEDDES (GUDDES,GADDIS) that I'm searching for Scotland 1846 I also have the CRAGG family back to the early 1700's Cockermouth Cumberland England (John & Betty CRAGG) thanks for the time and trouble you have gone to to help me it's greatly appreciated
Lee

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From: MSN Nicknamenanna1961Sent: 5/16/2008 2:32 PM
Hi Teri just thought I'd let you know that I now have a copy of the marriage for Henry CRAGG & Mary Ann GEDDES I have also been in touch with a very long lost relo from Canada who has helped me with alot of info thanks for all the help you gave me with my search
Lee
 

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