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Surname H : HOYLAND Harold
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From: MSN NicknameChloe-Cat  (Original Message)Sent: 4/17/2008 8:16 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknamesaandie5</NOBR>  (Original Message) Sent: 17/04/2008 08:09
Hi, I am trying to find where and when Harold Hoyland  ( sometimes known as Harry)died he was born 1890 in Yorkshire England married Mary Ellen Daniels they came to Australia in 1922, he packed up family and returned to England 1929abt then back to Australia1931 after Mary died in 1939 he returned to England 1939/40 he returned to Australia with new wife Lillian abt 1942/1945 however we cannot find any marraige records for second marraige? They returned to England soon after as Lillian hated Australia.Harold returned to Australia on his own in 1947 on the Stratheden his occupation listed as Brickmakers foreman although his daughter says this was untrue as he was apparently a conartist who made his living onboard ships!
The last time he was seen was abt 1948 when he was farewelled aboard the Oriana returning to England.Last known address was 390 Eccleshall rd Sth Sheffield.His daughter is now 91 and would love to know what happened to him.
Thankyou
Sandra


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From: MSN NicknameChloe-CatSent: 4/17/2008 8:15 PM
Hello Sandra
 
This is Kay and I'll be trying to find your elusive ancestors!  Check back regularly to see if I've made any progress for you.
 
Kay
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From: MSN NicknameChloe-CatSent: 4/17/2008 10:21 PM
Hello again Sandra
 
I'm just trawling through some death records for you in the hope of finding the correct one.  Meanwhile I've also checked the birth record for your Harold, but I'm afraid I can't find one for 1890.  I've included below the ones that have come up for a search on his name between 1880 and 1900.  If you could give me an indication of which one you believe to be correct it might help in establishing a death record - from the age at death.
 
Surname  First name(s)    District  Vol  Page 

Births Jun 1885   (>99%)
Hoyland  Harold    Sheffield  9c 446   Scan available - click to view

Births Mar 1892   (>99%)
Hoyland  Harold    Sheffield  9c 525   Scan available - click to view

Births Sep 1893   (>99%)
Hoyland  Harold Wordsworth    Lincoln  7a 506   Scan available - click to view

Births Jun 1894   (>99%)
Hoyland  Harold Bertie    Chorlton  8c 716   Scan available - click to view

Births Sep 1899   (>99%)
Hoyland  Harold    Sheffield  9c 610   Scan available - click to view

 

From the research you have already done, which do you believe to be correct - or do you by any chance have his birth certificate?  That would be enormously helpful.

 

Kay

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From: MSN Nicknamesaandie5Sent: 4/18/2008 3:03 AM
Hi, I would say the 1892 entry would be who I am looking for.
Thanks
Sandra

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From: MSN NicknameChloe-CatSent: 4/18/2008 7:56 AM
Ok Sandra - this will give me a better guide when it comes to age at death.  Check back from time to time - I'm hoping to pinpoint the record sooner rather than later.
 
Kay
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From: MSN NicknameChloe-CatSent: 4/18/2008 12:49 PM
Well Sandra, I'm not sure how much help, if any, this will be.  I've searched through every quarter of each year from 1948 (when Harold was last seen!) up to 1983 which is the latest date that can be searched for records.  I've found several Harold or Harry Hoyland deaths but can't be certain which would be correct, if any.  There is just one that is possible as the birth year was 1890.  I will list below all those I have found.  Before I start and at the risk of insulting your intelliegence, bear in mind the following:
 
JFM is the first quarter in any year, AMJ is the second, JAS the third and OND the last.
 
 
OND 1951 - Place of death Lancaster, Age 73 (Harry)
JFM 1957 - Place of death Ashton, Age 45 (Harold)
JAS 1957 - Place of death Oldham, Age 84 (Harry)
OND 1959 - Place of death Aylesbury, Age 74 (Harold A D)
OND 1963 - Place of death Southwell, Age 59 (Harry)
OND 1970 - Date of Birth 4.6.1904 Sheffield (Harold Victor E)
JFM 1971 - Date of Birth 6.7.1909 Rotherham (Harry)
JAS 1971 - Date of Birth 16.8.1903 Western (Harold)
JAS 1971 - Date of Birth 4.5.1896 Barnsley (Harry)
JAS 1971 - Date of Birth about 1896 Sheffield (Harry)
AMJ 1972 - Date of Birth 21.7.1905 Barton (Harry)
JAS 1973 - Date of Birth 13.4.1894 Bexley (Harold Bert)
JAS 1975 - Date of Birth 30.7.1890 Sheffield (Harry)
AMJ 1976 - Date of Birth 17.4.1907 Chesterfield (Harry)
JAS 1977 - Date of Birth 28.1.1903 Oldham (Harold)
OND 1978 - Date of birth 22.5.1896 Rotherham (Harry)
OND 1980 - Date of Birth 4.2.1892 Exexter (Harold)
AMJ 1983 - Date of Birth 19.8.1907 Kensington & Chelsea (Harold)
OND 1983 - Date of Birth 17.2.1927 Leeds (Harold Kay)
 
There's quite a lot to look through here Sandra and consider - most of which can be dismissed straight away - but one I think you should look closely at is the entry for JAS 1975 - Birth date of 30.7.1890 in Sheffield.  The death is registered as Harry but one idea I did have was that it's possible Harold/Harry's birth in 1890 may not have been registered until 1892 - as in the records for births above - particularly the one you feel could be correct.
 
I'll leave these dates with you to ponder and perhaps you'd let me know how you might like me to help further.
 
Kay
Manager

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