From: <NOBR>Chloe-Cat</NOBR>

Sent: 22/09/2008 08:35

Hi Lorraine   This is Kay and I will try and help you find the relatives of your ancestors.   Check back regularly to see if I've found information for you.   Kay Manager

From: <NOBR>pippy_nannie</NOBR>  (Original Message)

Sent: 22/09/2008 13:59

Thanks Kay I will keep in touch.I am most grateful for all the help I have been given so far. Regards Lorraine Cole

Hello again Lorraine

 

One small thing I should have mentioned sooner - when you want to answer a message on the surname message boards, you don't need to open a brand new message (and heading) every time.  It's easier than that!  You'll see in the top left hand corner of any message a little icon saying "reply" in a pinky/mauve box - just click on this and a reply window will open.  Type your message in this new window and when you've finished click (at the bottom of this window) "send message".  It saves a lot of fiddling around for the managers and is a much quicker and simpler way of sending your message to us.

 

Hope I've explained this clearly.

 

Anyway, do check back later on as I think I may have found something interesting for you on the 1851 census - I'm going to double check the details and post for you here later on.

 

Kay

Manager

Hello again Lorraine

 

Now, bear in mind that over the years names and spellings alter.  Transcriptions are not 100% accurate and therefore we find we are looking for alternative presentations of these names.

 

Having found, what I believe to be the correct family on the 1851 census, I've now managed to locate them on the 1841.  I will list below firstly what I've found on the 1841 and then on the 1851 censuses.

 

Firstly, however, I managed to find the marriage record for Elizabeth and Charles and this shows Elizabeth's father was James.  In case you don't have this information yourself, here it is:

 

ELIZABETH SEWELLS			Pedigree
	Female		Family

Event(s):
	Birth:
	Christening:
	Death:
	Burial:

Parents:
	Father:	JAMES SEWELLS	Family

Marriages:
	Spouse:	CHARLES MCGUIRE	Family
	Marriage:	23 OCT 1837   Duffield, Derby, England

Here is what I have found for the 1841 census - note the variation on spelling and also the birth years can vary up to 5 years:

 

Charles MacGuire - Head - b: 1806 Ireland - Clothes dealer

Elizabeth MacGuire - Wife - b: 1820 Derby

Peter MacGuire - Son - b: 1830 Scotland

James MacGuire - Son - b: 1840 Derby

Roseanne MacGuire - Daughter - b: 1839 Derby

 

It is possible that Charles didn't follow in his father footsteps to become a miller, but chose another occupation.  What do you think?

 

Kay

Manager

If you feel the above could be correct, here is the information I have for the 1851 census:

 

Charles Mc Guire - Head - b: 1803 Munster, Ireland - Clothes Dealer

Elizabeth Mc Guire - Wife - b: 1815 Lincolnshire

James Mc Guire - Son - b: - Bootbinder

Thomas Mc Guire - Son - b: 1839 Derby

Rowan Mc Guire - Son - b: 1841 Derby

George Mc Guire - Son - b: 1843 Derby

Herbert Mc Guire - Son - 1847 Derby

Charles Mc Guire -Son - 1850 Derby

 

Also residing with the family is Richard Levell b: 1813 Lincolnshire and listed as Visitor.

 

Now, you will notice mention of Rowan Mc Guire - Son.  The image is unclear but I'm wondering, due to the birth year, if perhaps somehow this has been mistranscribed and should be Roseanne from the earlier, 1841 census.  I'm not certain really because she was listed as daughter then, but son in the 1851.  She could have died and another child subsequently born - not impossible.  If I find a death record for her I will let you know.

 

Also, Peter is missing.  This could be that he is residing elsewhere, but likewise, if I find him I will let you know.

 

Kay

Manager

I can't help feeling Peter must have been mistranscribed somewhere on the 1851 census because he isn't showing up at all, that I can find.  It's quite likely he was recorded with a different name spelling or even birth place/year - unfortunately this does happen and makes tracing ancestors very difficult.  Sorry I've not had more success for you.

 

Kay

Manager