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raynecloud3</NOBR> (Original Message)

Sent: 17/09/2008 03:13

I don't know if you handle in research in Australia or not but thought I would submit my enquiry and you can advise me please.

I am looking for the death, well any details if possible on William Allen no middle name known. His marriage certificate says that his parents were William and Emma or Emily Allen and that he was born in 1893 in Broken Hill. I have been unable to find any record of his birth, nor can I find any record of his parents, birth, marriage or death. On his WW2 records he states that he served 2 1/2 years in France in WW1, but no record can be found on this. He married Caroline Garland in Qld and they had 3 children Pat, Leslie and Nelson. When the children were only tiny the marriage broke up and the children were put in an orphanage. The Mother Caroline died in Toowoomba but we can not trace anything on the Father William.

It is thought that William Allen may have died between 1950 and 1965.

Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you

Raynecloud3

Hi Jan WE most Probably will be able to find some info.Have you Checked his medal Index card.It should be able to be Found Via the British Archives,As most troops were linked.

If you had a service Number It would Help

Have run a quick check on the Medal index cards for ww1,There were just 4 William Allen Listed.If you can find a Service Number.That Matches it would help

Medal card of Allen, William Allen C
Corps: Royal Army Medical Corps
Regiment No: 54488
Rank: Private...
1914-1920 WO 372/1

Medal card of Allen, William
Corps: Army Service Corps
Regiment No: M2/049181
Rank: Private
1914-1920 WO 372/24

Medal card of Allen, William
Corps: Royal Fusiliers
Regiment No: G/38167
Rank: Serjeant
1914-1920 WO 372/23

Medal card of Allen, William
Corps: Royal Field Artillery
Regiment No: 94092
Rank: Gunner
1914-1920 WO 372/23

If you can find His Service Number,You can Apply for his Full Military Records

William Allen's war service number for WW2 is SRN Q186592 and we have those records and it is in these that he states that he served 2 1/2 years in France in WW1, but we are unable to find any records of him serving in WW1.

Thanks for any advice.

Hi Jen,What would have happened he would have been Dispatched to another Regiment.If he Fought in France.My GRANDFATHER was in the Royal Munster Fusiliers.He was Transferred to a Regiment in Worcester And Given a New Number.

The reverse could have happened,This is Maybe why you were unable to find

Normally Military records list any Regiment he would have served in.Via First ww Record index Cards.If he fought in France He would have been issued with Campaigne Medal plus the victory medal.

When he went back to oz.Would have had Discharge papers.He may have later re enlisted..

Hope you can follow where im Going

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