Hi Liz

thanks but my cousin who researched the Family back in 1975 claims that the thomas we are looking for is the same one from 1848 aged 20 it was from there that she got his parents names from the reel but at aged 80 she cant remember where she has put the copy  i am more interested in finding his parents thomas cummins a brushmaker and wife ann butler from ireland

i think i should try and get my own copy and a copy of thomas Jr marraige certificate it may shed some more light on where he actually came from

thanks again

Debbie