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| | From: Chloe-Cat (Original Message) | Sent: 5/25/2008 7:47 PM |
I am Trying to find details on my ancestor Thomas Fury born c 1839. I do have a death certificate stating he died September 1st 1908 aged 67, Union Workhouse, Mansfield, Nottinghamshire which would make birth 1841. I have nothing on him before the uk 1871 census in which he was living in the house of his brother-in-law (head) Hugh Macnamara born in Ireland, the census address,commercial yard, Gainsborough, Lincolnshire. It says Thomas 1839 single aged 32 Ireland. In the 1861 census North Wheatley, Nottinghamshire I found Thomas's father John born 1817ireland (who is also in the 1871 census with him above) also in the 1861 census John's wife Mary born 1814 Ireland and their children Catherine 1847, John 1854 and Ann 1857 all born in Wheatley although they are not there in the 1851census. Thomas married Mary Ann Seymour 9th Feb 1875 he was 34 she was 29 & a widow she died before the 1881 census & their 2 children John born 1876 & Thomas 1878 destitute sent to Nazareth poor house, Nottinghamshire until Thomas remarried 1882 Ellen woodhouse & collected the children from the poorhouse. In the 1891 census under Feery they are living in Radford Nottinghamshire. This is the first time Thomas states he was born in Sligo, I have not been able to Place Thomas or his sister Bridget in a house with their parents John or Mary only in the house all together in the 1871 census I cannot find any records in Sligo either I had a search performed by a professional but they failed to find anything.Any help would be much appreciated thank you . Kindest regards Elimag8 | |
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This is from the 1901 census. These are the only Furys listed in the whole of Co. Sligo. Marian Townland | Parish | Barony | County | Description | Head of household Surname | Head of household Given | Head of household Occupation | Other occupants | Ballaghboy | Aghanagh | Tirerrill | Sligo | Household | Fury | James(60) | Farmer/unmarried | Patrick(65) brother/not married/farmer-Catherine(68) sister/not married-Margaret Higgins(29) niece/not married/cook-Bridget Higgins(18) niece/not married/scholar | Cartron | Aghanagh | Tirerrill | Sligo | Household | Fury | Bridget(70) | Farmer/widow | Thomas(30) son-Mary(33) dtr.-Mary McCormack(60) cousin/seamstress-all not married | Stonepark | Killaraght | Coolavin | Sligo | Household | Fury | James(70) | Farmer/widower | Maria(27) dtr./not married/seamstress-James(25) son/not married/farm laborer-Michael McGrath(14) visitor /scholar | Drumnagoal | Skreen | Tireragh | Sligo | Household | Fury | Annie(36) | dressmaker | not married | |
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Ellimag - these sites may be useful to you if you haven't seen them. Marian Manager |
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These are all the Furys listed in Griffith's Valuations for Co. Sligo: Fury James Laragh Skreen Sligo Fury Charles Drumnagoal Skreen Sligo Fury John Sligo Old Gallows Hill (West S St. Johns Sligo Fury John Carrowcaslan Skreen Sligo Fury John Laragh Skreen Sligo Fury Thomas Toberawnaun Skreen Sligo Fury Michael Toberawnaun Skreen Sligo Fury Michael Carrownaknockan Skreen Sligo Fury Andrew Town of Sligo Pound Street (East Side) St. Johns Sligo Fury Thomas Corkagh Beg Templeboy Sligo Fury Bartholomew Derrinoghran Killaraght Sligo Fury Patrick Carrigans, Upper Emlaghfad Sligo Fury Mary Doonally Ballysumaghan Sligo Fury James Stonepark Killaraght Sligo Fury Margaret Derrinoghran Killaraght Sligo Fury Patrick Correagh Killerry Sligo Fury Bartholomew Correagh Killerry Sligo Fury Thomas Ballaghboy Aghanagh Sligo Marian Manager |
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| | From: elimag8 | Sent: 5/26/2008 9:41 PM |
Hello Marian I didn't expect help this soon ,Just come back from my Mother's house whose Fury side of the family I am having problems with ,been picking her brain again for anymore info from her Father's Fury side anyway I did send for Mary's death certificate only to be told it didn't exsist think I will try them again though. I am in contact with Maureen (lovely lady) whose ancestor is Elleonora Milker on Lds marriage record as I feel this could very possibly be my Thomas Fury although his certificate copy of his marriage to 1st wife in the uk 1875 says he was a bachelor,reason I feel this maybe is because the above Thomas had a son Thomas 1877 his 1st wife died he remarried had a son called Clifford (my grandad) his 1st wife died he remarried he had a son Michael(my uncle) his 1st wife died they have a son Darren(my cousin) his 1st wife died ,seems to be a curse,I thought maybe Mary who died in 1866 who is in the 1861 census was not Thomas & his sister Bridget's mother but this is only a feeling,Thank you very much for the websites you have sent me I am already onto them (having a great time) going through them ,The Fury's have been really difficult to find as in the case of Thomas when he remarried 1882 his 2 boys in the workhouse under the name Froy then in the 1891 nottingham census under Thomas Feery so I'm never sure how the spelling will appear plus his sister Bridget had 1 of her 3 children were born in Lanarkshire so I went in another direction to look for Fury's in Scotland which there were many ,then I found her in Manchester so off I went again all the time looking for Thomas before 1871 he also dissappears in 1901 I know he died 1908 in Mansfield Workhouse ,I found his son Thomas born 1877 in Mansfield but he wasn't with his father ,I have checked Thomas's (1839 born) other 2 sisters Catherine & Anne's houses in Lincolnshire but all the Fury's dissapear from the Lincolnshire & Nottinghamshire area ,I have them in the 1881 census but then nothing they must have gone somewhere but my main research is to find where Thomas & his sister Bridget were before 1871 ,again thanks very much for the quick response,brilliant. Kindest Regards Elimag8 |
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Hi elimag Well I have been searching like mad to find your folks but having a hard time! I wonder if maybe Bridget was in service in 1861? I did find this: Bridget Feerey born Sligo, a servant living at 32 York Court, North Leeds. Also there was a Thomas Fury of about the right age in the Royal Marines in Chatham, Kent. And another Thomas Fury who was a porter at the Feathers Hotel, Liverpool. Just wondering if any of this rings any bells? Marian Manager |
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Ellimag - I found this marriage record, but not sure if related. Joannem Fury -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: Mariam Woods Marriage: 27 OCT 1836 Dromard, Sligo, Ireland Marian Manager |
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| | From: elimag8 | Sent: 5/27/2008 5:07 PM |
Hello Marian Arn't they a nightmare ! I found a Birth certificate in retford notts library for a illegitimate son born to Bridget(whose single) nov 1st 1864 at North wheatley (think it was her parents address) it said she was a servant but doesn't say to who & the father was not named,the son appears in the house with Bridget & her husband in the 1871 census gainsborough,lincs,I also wandered if Thomas was in the Army or Marines I have access to ww1 records on ancestry.co.uk , I do know my great Grandfather again Thomas Fury born 1877(Thomas above's son) was in the labour corps & the Sherwood rangers but that was 1910 /15 I also have a feeling Bridgets husband Hugh mcnamara was also maybe in the army as one of their children born in glasgow ,bridget was a visitor to a Eliza mcdonald in Manchester,Lancashire 1881 I found her husband hugh nearby in great harwood,lancashire working in a cotton factory. The only thing I'm sure about is they must have been Roman Catholic because Bridget was in Nazareth house ,poorhouse think that was 1891 or 1901 will have a look ,but the place was for Roman Catholics ,I have that many possibilities with them all my drawer is full. If will see if I can get Mary's death certificate again maybe it will have her maiden name on it or give us some clues. kindest regards Elaine |
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| | From: elimag8 | Sent: 5/29/2008 4:49 PM |
Hiya Marian Ordered Mary Fury's 1866 death certificate again and ordering Bridget & Husband Hugh Mcnamara's wedding certificate to see if there is anymore info on that ,I think you have found Bridget under name Feery servant in Leeds ,I feel very sure about ,I'm quite sure about Thomas also in Liverpool as I would have thought Liverpool would be their first place to live coming from Ireland. Thank you will let you know of anymore developments & will send for a few marriage certificates that look promising that you found. Kindest Regards Elimag8 |
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Hi Elaine Well I do hope I have been of some help. I never like to assume that anything is correct until we can prove it with documents, so I am glad to hear that you are ordering some certificates. They can be a valuable source of information, and the witnesses to the marriage can often give us little clues too. Do let us know how you get on, and if we can be of further help. Marian Manager |
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Hi Elaine Mike has pointed out that in the 1891 census there are listed two children of Thomas and Ellen Fury, John and Thomas, but also two older children (presumably from another marriage?) - John Chapman born c1868 and Harriett Chapman born c1870. He wondered if you were aware of this. Marian Manager |
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Elaine - I notice in your original message that Thomas had his children by a previous wife, Mary Ann Seymour, who died before the next census. Sorry I overlooked that fact. Also, we can't find a marriage to fit with Ellen and a Mr Chapman, so are wondering how the Chapman children fit in. They are listed as Thomas's stepchildren. Marian Manager |
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| | From: elimag8 | Sent: 5/30/2008 6:36 PM |
Hiya Marian Yes I have a marriage for Thomas & Ellen She was a widow he was John Chapman Thomas married Ellen Woodhouse 1882 Lincoln his name was under Fearey yet another way of spelling it ,I traced Ellen's 2 children from her previous marriage in hoping for more the daughter lived most of her life in Staffordshire wheras the son simliar to the Fury's moved around a lot. This is one of the certificates I have sent for along with Mary d Fury Thomas's mother died 1866,I have never been able to find the death of Thomas's father John there are a few possibilities in Workhouses ,one in wales another I think if my memory serves me right was Lancashire way on ,Cannot understand why he wasn't in the Lincolnshire area though ,he's not in Lincolnshire in the 1881 so I presume he's dead by then & Ive checked the homes of his 2 daughters on the 1881 census Catherine & Anne ,Catherine married in Caister Lincs 1866 Peter Mcginnis,Anne married in Caister lincs 1881 John Henry Collison and Bridget & her children are in Manchester/Lancashire visiting Eliza Mcdonald for some reason without husband,in 1881 Thomas I think is a boarder in the house of William Thornhill Gainsborough & a widow with his 2 children in Nottingham workhouse so their father is knowhere to be seen so presume dead just strange he seemed to travel so far away to die,I'm going to have another look now,Will probably have a more thorough look at the weekend as this is my last night at work then I have 3 off . There is a John William Fury died 1892 but this is Thomas's Son born to him & first wife 1877/78 who died 1 year after Thomas & new wife Ellen collected him from the Notts workhouse ,To say there wasn't much transport around in those days my lot seemed to be all over the place starting to think they were on the wanted list by police or something similar. Kindest Regards Elaine |
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| | From: elimag8 | Sent: 6/5/2008 4:46 PM |
Hello Marian Recieved 2 of my certificates today enclosed, So I have some searching to do over the weekend found Emma's ex husband he worked as a labourer at the iron foundry in Gainsborough as did Thomas so they must have known each other from there I have all the details of her marriage to Henry Chapman ,she was a widow.I see from the certificate Thomas's father was still alive in 1883 so I will be looking for him, Even more interesting from Mary D Fury ,John's wife her middle name Durkin in your experience would this been perhaps a first marriage (maybe widowed before John Fury) or her maiden name or her mother's maiden name I have found a lot of surname Durkin's in the Sligo /mayo area Ireland also in the Liverpool /manchester area uk,certainly found more info to research maybe the possibility that John re-married after Mary's death,thanks again. Regards Elaine |
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Hi Elaine That's great news. I am so pleased for you. It's always exciting to receive certificates and find new information, especially new names to investigate. I would think that Durkin was most likely either Mary's maiden name or her mother's maiden name. Naturally enough people always liked to keep the family names going (and still do today of course), and sometimes they did that through the female line just in case they didn't have any sons born in the family. Happy searching. Marian |
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