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From: MSN NicknameChloe-Cat  (Original Message)Sent: 1/11/2008 10:08 AM
John Garlick is connected to the Flowerday message on another board.  Please see details below for this family.


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 Message 2 of 14 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameChloe-CatSent: 1/11/2008 10:10 AM

1881 Census

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JOHN GARLICK  B: 1862 Sheffield, Yorkshire (Lodger).  Blade Striker.

Residing at:  15 Gower Street, Brightside Bierlow with a family by the name of Couldwell.

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His parents and siblings were living at 152 Clarence Street, Ecclesall Bierlow in the 1881 census �?for details see below the 1871 and 1861 census information.

 

Kay

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 Message 3 of 14 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameChloe-CatSent: 1/11/2008 10:12 AM
1871 Census
 
SAMUEL GARLICK  B: 1834 Wormhill, Derbyshire (Head).  Table Knife Blade Forger.
CHARLOTTE GARLICK  B: 1834 Ecclesfield, Yorkshire (Wife).
RICHARD GARLICK  B: 1858 Sheffield (Son).
MARY E GARLICK  B: 1860 Sheffield (Daughter).
JOHN GARLICK B: 1862 Sheffield (Son).
HERBERT GARLICK  B: 1864 Sheffield (Son).
ALFRED GARLICK  B: 1867 Sheffield (Son).
SAMUEL GARLICK  B: 1870 Sheffield (Son).
 
The family were residing at 107 Young Street, Ecclesall Bierlow.
 
Kay
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 Message 4 of 14 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameChloe-CatSent: 1/11/2008 10:13 AM
For John's parents, Samuel & Charlotte, I've found the following marriage record:
 
Surname  First name(s)    District  Vol  Page 

Marriages Sep 1856   (>99%)
Addy  Charlotte    Sheffield  9c 319  Scan available - click to view
GARLICK  Samuel    Sheffield  9c 319  Scan available - click to view
 
So we know Charlotte's maiden name was Addy.
 
 
 
Kay
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 Message 5 of 14 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameChloe-CatSent: 1/11/2008 10:16 AM
Here are some birth records of John's siblings:
 
Births Dec 1857   (>99%)
Garlick  Richard    Ecclesall Bierlow  9c 211

 

Births Sep 1859   (>99%)
Garlick  Mary Elizabeth    Ecclesall B  9c 244  Scan available - click to view

 

Births Jun 1864   (>99%)
GARLICK  Herbert    Ecclesall B  9c 277  Scan available - click to view

 

Births Sep 1866   (>99%)
Garlick  Alfred    Ecclesall B  9c 265

 

Births Sep 1869   (>99%)
GARLICK  Samuel    Ecclesall B.  9c 299

 

Kay

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 Message 6 of 14 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameChloe-CatSent: 1/11/2008 11:18 AM
In the 1861 census:
 
The family have been mistranscribed (and I hasten to add, crossed out!) as GARNETT.  However the birth and occupation details of the individuals are correct so I'm confident this is the correct family, as follows:
 
SAMUEL GARNETT  B: 1834 Burgenland, Wormhill (Head).  Table Blade Forger.
CHARLOTTE GARNETT  B: 1834 Ecclesfield, Yorkshire (Wife).
RICHARD GARNETT  B: 1857 Sheffield (Son).
MARY E GARNETT  B: 1860 Sheffield (Daughter).
 
In this census the family were residing at 34 Occupation Road, Brightside Beirlow.
 
Kay
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 Message 7 of 14 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameChloe-CatSent: 1/11/2008 11:20 AM
In the 1881 census, whilst John was residing in Brightside Bierlow his family were living at 152 Clarence Street, Ecclesall Bierlow, all as in the 1861 and 1871 censuses but with an additional sibling as follows:
 
GEORGE GARLICK  B: 1872 Sheffield (Son).
 
Here is his birth record:
 
Births Dec 1871   (>99%)
   
Garlick  George    Ecclesall B.  9c 309

 

 

 

Kay

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 Message 8 of 14 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameChloe-CatSent: 1/11/2008 12:16 PM
By 1891 Samuel & Charlotte (Addy) Garlick are living at (what looks like) 21 Pen Street West, Ecclesall Bierlow with children ALFRED, GEORGE and SAMUEL.  Also with the family are listed ELIZABETH KILNER (Sister), JOHN KILNER (Brother) and MARY A KILNER (Cousin).  I can't help wondering if Elizabeth was the sister of Samuel Garlick, John Kilner was his brother-in-law and Mary was his niece.  It's only an opinion and further investigate could prove one way or another.  Just
 
Having found no entries on the1901 census for Samuel or Charlotte Garlick I went n to find the following:
 
Deaths Jun 1899   (>99%)
Garlick  Charlotte  67  Sheffield  9c 283
 
and
 
Deaths Jun 1900   (>99%)
Garlick  Samuel  67  Sheffield  9c 327
 
 
Kay
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 Message 9 of 14 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameChloe-CatSent: 1/11/2008 12:19 PM
Now obviously this is out of date order but I've found the parents of Samuel Garlick as follows:
 
SAMUEL GARLICK Pedigree
  Male    

Event(s):
Birth: 
Christening: 
09 JAN 1834   Wormhill, Derby, England
Death: 
Burial: 

Parents:
  Father:  RICHARD GARLICK Family
  Mother:  MARY

 

Having done a search for children of the parents Richard Garlick & Mary it would appear that Samuel had several siblings, as follows:

 

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GARLICK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 1817 Wormhill, Derby, England<o:p></o:p>

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ELIZABETH GARLICK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 31 JAN 1820 Wormhill, Derby, England<o:p></o:p>

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ANN GARLICK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 29 JUL 1822 Wormhill, Derby, England<o:p></o:p>

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MARY GARLICK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 14 NOV 1824 Wormhill, Derby, England<o:p></o:p>

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ELIZABETH GARLICK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 09 DEC 1827 Wormhill, Derby, England<o:p></o:p>

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JOHN GARLICK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 09 DEC 1827 Wormhill, Derby, England<o:p></o:p>

 


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 Message 10 of 14 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameChloe-CatSent: 1/11/2008 12:20 PM
My thoughts on the above siblings are that with the first child simply shown as "Garlick" it could be the birth record was made before the parents decided upon a name, or perhaps the child died at birth.
 
Secondly, there is mention of two Elizabeths.  It is sometimes the case that parents name two children the same, or perhaps one died young and the second was named after her.  The only slight concern I have is that I can find no obvious record for the death of an Elizabeth Garlick.
 
Kay
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 Message 11 of 14 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameChloe-CatSent: 1/11/2008 12:24 PM
With regards a marriage between Richard Garlick and Mary here's what I've found:
 
RICHARD GARLICK Pedigree
  Male   Family

Event(s):
Birth: 
Christening: 
Death: 
Burial: 

Marriages:
  Spouse:  MARY WINTER BOTHOM Family
  Marriage: 
10 JUL 1815   Wormhill, Derby, England

 

Mary's surname spelling does vary in records - worth bearing in mind:
Marriages:
  Spouse:  MARY WINTERBOTTOM Family
  Marriage: 
10 JUL 1815   Wormhill, Derby, England

Kay

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 Message 12 of 14 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameChloe-CatSent: 1/11/2008 12:28 PM
I was rather curious to see if I could find an individual that matched the "missing" Garlick child above and found a Joseph Garlick born 1818c in Wormhill.  On checking birth records for Joseph I've found nothing so I'm guessing this could be the correct individual but feel pretty confident.  Having checked him out on the 1861 census I've found him with wife Ann as follows, though this has been mistranscribed as "Barlick" (thought from the image itself you can see it's Garlick), but on the basis all relevant details match I'm happy this is the correct family:
 
JOSEPH BARLICK  B: 1818c Wormhill, Derbyshire (Head).  Line Burner.
ANN BARLICK  B: 1819 Peak Forest, Derbyshire (Wife).
JOHN BARLICK  B: 1845 Wormhill, Derbyshire (Son).
FRANCES BARLICK B: 1850 Upperend, Derbyshire (Son).
JONATHAN BARLICK  B: 1852 Upperend, Derbyshire (Son).
JOSEPH BARLICK  B: 1856 Upperend, Derbyshire (Son).
 
Residence is "Peep Of Day", Wormhill.
 
Kay
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 Message 13 of 14 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameChloe-CatSent: 1/11/2008 12:32 PM
There are two marriage entries for Joseph Garlick and Ann.  One was an Ann Ashmore and the other Ann Fletcher.  The marriage to Ann Ashmore was in Chapel en le Frith which I felt ws going to be correct because of their 1861 address (being a registration district of Chapel en le Frith) BUT when I checked birth records for this individual there were none in Peak Forest.  However, on checking the second entry in Bakewell and then birth record for Ann Fletcher I see there was a birth in the correct place for her!  Here are the details I've found:
 
ANN FLETCHER Pedigree
  Female    

Event(s):
Birth: 
Christening: 
05 DEC 1819   Peak Forest, Derby, England
Death: 
Burial: 

Parents:
  Father:  JOHN FLETCHER Family
  Mother:  JANE

 

You'll see the area and year match perfectly with the census details.  On that basis I feel confident Joseph married this Ann and here is their marriage record:

 

Marriages Dec 1841   (>99%)
FLETCHER  Ann    Bakewell  19 349  Scan available - click to view
GARLICK  Joseph    Bakewell  19 349  Scan available - click to view

 

Having checked some birth records for the children of Joseph and Ann I'm quite confident this is correct as their birth records are showing to be Chapel en le Frith, which is where they were living at the time of the 1861 ensus.  It does all seem to fit nicely.  If you agree with my findings we can safely dismiss Ann Ashmore.

 

Kay

Manager


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 Message 14 of 14 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameChloe-CatSent: 1/11/2008 12:33 PM
So Tanya, you've quite a lot to digest here.  I will now wait for you to come back to me on what I've found and let me know which direction, if any, you'd like me to take with the Garlicks.  Probably best for you to tell me rather than me find things which are of little or no interest to you.  I look forward to your reply!
 
Kay
Manager

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