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| | From: Twistahlemon (Original Message) | Sent: 10/1/2008 8:25 PM |
Greetings!
I'm looking for a birth record on Daniel Gallagher/Gallaher b. abt. 1841/42 in Ireland. Unfortunately, the only area I have so far is from a difficult to read 1881 England census record which lists his origins as Ascra Town, Ireland.
His parents should be listed as Peter Gallagher (plasterer) & Mary Hutchinson. His siblings are listed as Peter (who would be my gr-gr-grandfather), Mary, Catherine, and an older brother Michael, all born in Ireland. All the sons occupations are plasterers or painters. This document is vital to the confirmation of this particular family linking to my own Peter Gallagher, whose mother I have proved to be Mary Hutchinson thru his birth certificate. The last known address of Daniel is in the 1901 England Census showing his family at 172 Hatfield Rd., Bolton, Lancashire.
I've looked thru all my resources, and have a habit of not wanting to pay for viewing information I can be 100% sure is what I need. Any help or points in the right directions is appreciated.
Thanks so much,
Barbara |
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Hi Barbara Your Correct in Saying it Says Ascra Town Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Daniel GALLAGHER Head M Male 39 Ascra Town, Ireland House Painter Ann GALLAGHER Wife M Female 34 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Eliza GALLAGHER Dau U Female 13 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Scholar Cecelia GALLAGHER Dau U Female 11 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Scholar James GALLAGHER Son Male 5 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Scholar Walter GALLAGHER Son Male 3 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Joseph GALLAGHER Son Male 10 m Liverpool, Lancashire, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Garfoths Bdgs Census Place Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire, England Family History Library Film 1341964 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4034 / 171 Page Number 31
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Barbara There is a Marriage Listed About 1860 For Liverpool For a Daniel Gallagher. And Mary Ann Smith.I feel sure That mary May have used her Second Name Ann on the Census.Please Correct me if im Wrong.Im going This way to see if i can find Other info Mike Marriages Sep 1860 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gallagher Daniel Liverpool 8b 572 Smith Mary Ann Liverpool 8b 572 The Irish Family History Foundation Do have some listings,But it Could be Any There is only One for 1842 Source Surname First Name Year County Church Baptism Galaher Daniel 1838 Co. Cavan Church Baptism Gallagher Daniel 1838 Co. Sligo Church Baptism Gaulagher Daniel 1838 Co. Tyrone Church Baptism Gallagher Daniel 1840 Co. Longford Church Baptism Galiher Daniel 1841 Co. Down Church Baptism Gallagher Daniel 1841 Co. Sligo Church Baptism Gallagher Daniel 1841 Co. Mayo Church Baptism Gallagher Daniel 1842 Co. Leitrim .............< Church Baptism Gallagher Daniel 1843 Co. Cork Church Baptism Gallagher Daniel 1844 Co. Tyrone |
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Boy oh Boy Barbara That is a Dilemma,I checked out Various Names and Found a few Possibilites Achill, Adare Ardara This is nearest to Ascra ITS IN DONEGAL, I think Arklow Athboy Annagh Now as Daniel was Born about 1842 I checked out Mary HUTCHINSON Church Marriage Hutchinson Mary 1837 Co. Down Church Marriage Hutchison Mary 1840 Co. Antrim Church Marriage Hutchinson Mary 1841 Co. Kilkenny I THINK THESE ARE THE 3 possibilities but just cannot be sure as i cant match Peter to them Antrim Town seems more likely as Antrim can link to a few Parishes. i think if Daniel can be found via the 1871 census,it may make things clearer
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Barbara i re checked the census Details,Hoping to Find the Childrens Births Registered in BMD ,but cannot find them. I would have thought Cecelia would have been easy to find but Nothing Mike |
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Hi Barbara Hopefully you will have recieved the 1861 Doc and the 1871.UNFORTUNATELY they dont give us any more info as to where in Ireland Daniel was Born.What we do know is His parents were Here in Liverpool. So we are still on Square one,As they could be any of the Listed ones. If you can Find anything on the Docs that may help. Im only to willing to Help. Kay kindly searched for these Census for you. Mike |
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Barbara i did find some sort of link in the Griffiths Registrations But it may prove hard to link.There are places Called Achill and Aglish in county Mayo.There was a Peter Gallagher living in that area about 1848.So i checked Mayo further and Found a Wesleyen minister by the name of the Reverend James Hutchinson . Church EDUCATION SOCIETY SCHOOL HOUSE WESLEYEN METHODIST MEETING HOUSE HOUSE LAND AND COUNTY INFERMARY LAND OWNED BY THE EARL OF LUCAN Working with him at this place was an Agnes Gallagher. Now it may just be Coincidence these two names are linked.But i must say Both these Names may fit in with the one from the 1881 census Mike |
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Mike,
I have Daniel and his family from the '51 thru 1901 census'. And you're correct, they really don't offer any more info that I've given you or that you've discovered.
I did obtain, from a possible Gallagher cousin, who is also looking to link Peter to Daniel, a marriage certificate for Daniel and Ann Brown. It has them living at 27 Castle St, Kirkland & 29 Castle St, Kirkland, respectively. Daniel's father, Peter Gallaher, plasterer & Ann's father, John Brown, Farmer. Married at St. Mary's in Kirkdale in the parish of Walton-on-the-Hill, Lancaster, on Aug. 20, 1865
Mary Hutchinson is definately my gr-gr-grandfather Peter's mother. I'm trying to link Daniel with this Peter, as brother's.
The 1861 census listing has a family whose details are so close to what I have for Peter it is most surely a match. But I need a BC of at least one of the siblings to prove it 100%. This is where I'm brickwalled.
Thanks for all your help. It is most appreciated.
Barbara |
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Barbara im not sure if you have used this site but it does throw up some usefull info |
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