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| | From: Terese (Original Message) | Sent: 4/5/2008 12:24 PM |
Hi I'm new to your group and would appreciate any advise or information. I have traced back to my 3 x great grandparents . They were David Lynch 1794-1871 and Eleanor Francis Babbington 1798 - 1874. Both are buried in Phillips Park Cemetery, Manchester. I would love to find their marriage and details of their parents and or siblings. I don't know if they married in England or Ireland but I'm guessing it was around 1819 - 1820 Davids headstone revealed he had fought in the Peninsular Wars with the 83rd regiment of the foot 1810 - 1814. I believe both were born in Ireland possibly Dublin ( Info from 1851 Census) and their children were born in England from 1821. They were Catholic Their children were - Ellenor 1821-????, David George 1823-1900 (my great great grandfather), Elizabeth 1824 - 1872, Patrick 1826 - 1882, Thomas 1826 - 1867, John Hastings 1830 - 1880 and Andrew 1835 -1893. David worked as a weaver. I hope this is enough although I have a bit more if it would help Thanks for taking the time to read this Terese NSW Australia |
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| | From: Terese | Sent: 5/10/2008 4:10 AM |
Hi again Mike I was re-reading some of the posts and was looking more closely at the Griffiths valuation post. Family legend was that my great great grandfather was somehow "royalty".......something about the Earl of Babbington. I had dismissed the entire story as fanciful but maybe his mothers family were landowners or had previosly been titled and things were embelished by various family members over the years. I find your information very interesting as some of David and Eleanors grandchildren are listed as Irish born and their siblings English, so they must have travelled back and forth . Terese |
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You can find that record in The irish Family History foundation For Cork. Ref David Mike |
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Terese Sometimes little snippets of Info are handed down generation after generation.I totally agree sometimes fiction.But this case i think as the Babbington were Gentry.It could well be fact.Eleanor could well have been born in England . There were a lot of Gentry living around Cork area.So dont be to Surprised if a record turns up there.For Some reason They chose places like Cork,Dublin,Even Limerick.Most were Landholders. Mike |
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| | From: Terese | Sent: 5/11/2008 1:43 AM |
Hi Mike In the 1851 English census both David and Eleanor gave Dublin as their place of birth. Also David was in the 83rd Regiment of the Foot 2nd battalion , in about 1809 -which was a Dublin raised unit . In the Griffths Valuation both Lynch and Babbingtons appear in Dublin and when I looked at a map they were only a few blocks apart so this may well indicate that the families knew each other. Also the name Thomas continues throught the Lynch family- maybe it was handed down from Eleanor. I would love to work out more - any suggestions on where I should look. I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to the availability of Irish records etc. I really appreciate your help its given me fresh hope that I may be able to continue delving back through these families Terese |
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My suggestion,Dublin Heritage have a site it may be worth contacting them.Ok lets forget David in Cork.Look at it he was born in Dublin. Contacting The churches of Dublin is an almighty task as one Member searching For Keatings Found out .Lynch will be Harder.But Babbington will be easier. First Contact the Libraries,And get an area More so for the Regiment. If as you said you found in Griffiths .Start with those Areas.Find the Church or Churches And Contact.One may throw up a Baptism Or Marriage. Ill try and help as much as i can.With the Churches Mike |
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Terese i feel sure the Church we Need is st Marys Church Dublin Babbington Thomas Blessington Street St. Marys Dublin Lynch William Dorset Street, Upper St. Marys Dublin Lynch William Liffey Street, Lower St. Marys Dublin Lynch Robert Lotts St. Marys Dublin Mike |
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Terese Not sure but i think this is the Church St. Mary's Pro-Cathedral 83 Marlborough Street, Dublin 1, Ireland Tel. 01-8745441; Fax 01-8742406 Administrator: Canon John Flaherty
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Terese this was the reply that June recieved From this Church A reply from St Mary's Pro-Cathedral "All our records prior to 1900 are kept on micro film in the National Library If this is the case you would need to contact the Library Mike |
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Terese i found this on the Babbington Family page 232 <o:p></o:p> 538 BABINGTON William, Strabane Co Tyrone Esq. <o:p></o:p> 16 June 1735 Narrate 3/4 p. 22 Sept 1736 <o:p></o:p> His wife Catherine BABINGTON. lands whereof he was then seized or to come to him in right of his late father, or as heir at law of his late brother Henry BABINGTON of Kilmacrenan Co. Donegal. His brother Ralph BABINGTON. His brother Thomas BABINGTON. His brother Richard BABINGTON. Jno. JOHNSON clerk, John St. CLARE Esq. and said Thomas BABINGTON exors. town and lands of Trenemullan. B Raphoe Co Donegal, Corry, parish of Clandevadogg, Co. Donegal. lands of Urney Co Tyrone (leasehold). His dwelling house, interest or freehold in town of Strabane. Witnesses: Wm. JOHNSON and attorney at Court of Exchequer in Ireland, dwells at Finglas Bridge Co. Dublin. Henry TEGGART, now at London listed in the First Troop of Horse Guards at Westminster, Hugh CARR, menial servant to the testator now dwells at Clandevadoge Co. Donegal. Memorial witnessed by said Wm. JOHNSON, Wm CARTER clerk to Thos. BRADISH attorney of Court of Exchequer, dwells in Patrick St. Dublin <o:p></o:p> 86, 84, 59392 Kath. BABINGTON (seal) So it looks like they had lands Seized,While in County Tyrone and Donegal Mike <o:p></o:p> |
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Terese this may interest you Mike |
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Terese there is one other St Marys in Howth Dublin Parish Administrator: Joan Kerr 839 1445 Select Vestry Secretary Carolyn O'Laoire 839 1257 |
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Terese in the 1911 Census of Dubln there were just 5 Babington living in Dublin Mike Babington Mary Hume 2 Female Babington Emerson Hume 1 Male Babington Ethel Vaughan 35 Female Wife of a Barrister Howth hill Babington May Beatrice 17 Female Babington Jeanne 26 Female |
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Hi Terese have you seen this record Piece: RG9/2959 Place: St George -Lancashire Enumeration District: 15 Civil Parish: Manchester Ecclesiastical Parish: St George Folio: 20 Page: 33 Schedule: 201 Address: 5 Montague St -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks LYNCH David Head M M 66 Provision Dealer Ireland - - LYNCH Eleanor Frances Wife M F 62 Ireland - - Eleanor born 1799 David born 1793 |
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Terese have you seen this record Mike DAVID LYNCH Pedigree Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 28 NOV 1858 Saint Andrew Ancoats, Manchester, Lancashire, England Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JOHN HASTINGS LYNCH Family Mother: SARAH |
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| | From: Terese | Sent: 5/25/2008 12:23 AM |
Hi Mike This is the original David and Eleanors Grandson fom their son John. David and Eleanor also had a son David George (he was my great great grandfather) who had a son David James ( my great grandfather) who had a son David Henry( he was my grandfathers elder brother). We didn't know about David Henry 's existence until I started this research. It appears that the name David was given to the eldest son of each childs new family.......dozens of David Lynch's in the Manchester region !!!! Thanks for your ongoing interest Terese |
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