Clive looking through all this I really Feel your Best bet to try And solve the Mystery Will be in The will Of Sir Richard Molyneux. That i Mentioned On the other Message

 

Mike

Clive I found This Mention on a site Again Someone Is trying To disprove it

 

The Molyneux Family of Hawkley Hall, Wigan from notes by Mrs J H M Bankes (extracted from deeds & documents at Winstanley)

Flower's Visitations, the V.C.H.Lancs., monumental inscriptions, & parish registers (by AJH).
A.7.52 FLOWER, William and GLOVER, Robert
Visitation of various counties in 1580 and following particularly Cheshire and Lancashire. Transcript of original ms. (6694).

Conversation Pieces : a survey of English Domestic Portraits & their painters [of the 18th & 19th Centuries]. With notes on the illustrations by Michael Sevier.
SITWELL, Sacheverell : Michael Sevier.
1st edition. ISBN 0713407212

One of these abstracts mentions 3 sons in Richard's will - Richard, Bryan William and his youngest son William. The will states that the estate should go to eldest son, Richard but if he should die, then it should go to Bryan William. William was apparently left out of the inheritance of the estate, but the will goes on to state that "£500 to my youngest son William".

Thanks for all this Mike, much appreciated.

 

Sorry about the delay in responding, I have been having a few personal problems recently and so I have been somewhat preoccupied. In fact I am due in hospital in three hours time.

 

Regards

 

Clive

Hi Clive,Sorry To hear That,Dont worry all info will be here for you.

Take care

Mike

Hi Clive,I was looking through the Kerry Library site,And found there is a Book of a Samuel Molyneux A visit by him

 

Samuel Molyneaux’s tour of Kerry, 1709 (K.. Theodore Hoppen and Pádraig de Brún).

Thanks Mick - I do not think my family is the Irish branch though - My lot are Lancastrians and Wigginers through and through

 

Regards

 

Clive

From: <NOBR>Sefton_8553</NOBR>  (Original Message)

Sent: 2007/11/03 04:10 PM

Hi all My Molyneux Family Genealogy - SE Lancashire England, Web Page has been updated and revamped. http://www.geocities.com/cguil_uk/index.html Comments, suggestions and constructive criticisms would be greatly welcomed. Thanks in advance Regards Clive Molyneux Member of the International Molyneux Family Association

Hi Clive,Have you tried this website

 

Mike

 

Yep I sure have

Hi Clive I hope Your Feeling A bit better,I have added the  link to your site And also There is a message under Members Help.

I Hope you dont mind

 

Mike

Hi Clive,Savannah ONE OF OUR Members has links to Pemberton.While looking through info she left for a site i found the following.Now this is around the wigan Area

I hope this Info is of use to you

Mike

MARKLAND
MARKLAND was the property of the Hollands, (fn. 41) and in 1360 was granted to the Priory of Upholland. On the suppression it was acquired by John Holcroft. (fn. 42)
Alexander Worsley, Thomas and John Molyneux, Gilbert Scott, and Robert Higginson, contributed to a subsidy of Mary's reign as landowners. (fn. 43) The freeholders in 1600 (fn. 44) were: Ralph Worsley, �?Downes, (fn. 45) Richard Molyneux of Hawkley, Robert Arrowsmith, Thomas Laithwaite, (fn. 46) Richard Pemberton, (fn. 47) Hugh Scott, (fn. 48) William Walthew, (fn. 49) Thomas Whalley, (fn. 50) Humphrey Winstanley, and John Worthington. The landowners who contributed to the subsidy of 1628 were Roger Downes, for Worsley's lands; Richard Molyneux, and the heirs of Richard Pemberton. (fn. 51) Several 'delinquents' compounded for their estates under the rule of the Commonwealth. (fn. 52) The following 'papists' registered estates here in 1717: Barbara and Margaret Green, George Unsworth, and William Winstanley. (fn. 53) The land tax returns of 1787 show the chief owners to have been the Duke of Bridgewater, the heirs of T. Barton, Mrs. Percival, W. B. Molyneux, and John Markland.
During the last century a number of places of worship have been erected in Pemberton. In connexion with the Established Church St. John's was consecrated in 1832 as a chapel of ease to the parish church; a burial ground was attached to it. The rector of Wigan is the patron. (fn. 54) The church of St. Matthew, Highfield, built in 1894, serves as a chapel of ease. St Mark's, Newtown, was built in 1891. The patronage is vested in trustees. There is a licensed chapel at Worsley Mesnes.
The Methodist denominations are well represented, the Wesleyan, Primitive, Independent, and United Free Methodists having places of worship. There are also Free Gospel and Congregational chapels.
The Roman Catholic church of St. Cuthbert dates from 1872; it was enlarged in 1887. (fn. 55)
A schoolhouse was built at Goose Green by Thomas Molyneux; but no endowment

From: 'Townships: Pemberton', A History of the County of Lancaster: Volume 4 (1911), pp. 78-83. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=41381. Date accessed: 25 November 2007.

Cool! Thanks Mike Much appreciated

Hi Clive,If The site Was not added i dont think i would have found that.I Hope its of use to you

 

Mike

Clive,

 

My surname is VALLELEY and I am, at this time, researching to 1804, when a Francis VALLELY married Mary MOLLINEUX (as is spelt on the Marriage Register) at the Collegiate, Manchester.  Her family were centered on Manchester.

Some Church Register details of the Mollineux family members are to hand and Mike, of the EIFS 'site' suggested you might wish to examine the entries to determine if there is any connection to 'your' family at Wigan.  In reviewing the Colligiate Registers, as with my own surname, I have found numerous examples of phonetic, and poor interpretation of names, as might be the case in this instance. 

 

Regards  -  Peter VALLELEY