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Message 1 of 24 in Discussion

From:

ConnemaraKate (Original Message)

Sent: 11/21/2007 1:53 PM

From: <NOBR>

fgglym</NOBR> (Original Message)

Sent: 2007/11/21 12:23 PM

Please can anyone help me trace Thomas Frederick Moore married in West Ham, Essex England on 22 August 1912 where it staes he was aged 29 - so presumably born c1883. I believe he was born in Ireland (can't find an english birth registration ) and at the time of the marriage his father Samuel was deceased. Can't find Thoams on 1901 census so assume he came over from Ireland after that.

Not sure where he was born but family legend says he was Irish.He worked in the British Civil Service in London so I don't know if that has any bearing on if he was from the North or South.

Vaguely believe he had half brothers and sisters but no details.

Thomas married Ruth Read and hadn't been married before.

Thanks

Sandra

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Message 10 of 24 in Discussion

From:

mickym1951

Sent: 11/22/2007 3:18 PM

Ok Sandra This Is what i Found,I cant Be 100% Its Correct

Samuel

.If correct in 1881 Living in Gloucester

Births Sep 1913 (91%)
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Moore Eileen A Read W.ham 4a 131

Births Mar 1866 (>99%)
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MOORE Samuel J W. Ham 4a 26

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Marriages Sep 1912 (>99%)
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MOORE Thomas F Read W.Ham 4a 86

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Mary A. MOORE Head W Female 40 Chiltern Polden, Somerset, England Matron Serv Home (Ind Ser)

Samuel MOORE Son U Male 15 West Ham, Essex, England Apprentice To Bookseller

Please Note Born In West Ham,But Mother Born Somerset.This is 1881 Census

Louisa NUTTYCOMBE   Sister   W   Female   36   Chiltern Polden, Somerset, England
Eva L. TUBBETT   Lod   U   Female   22   Harnham, Wiltshire, England   Housemaid Dom
Elizth. FANSON   Lod   U   Female   27   Pyworthy, Devon, England   Cook Dom
Sarah A. WALKER   Lod   U   Female   21   Lydney, Gloucester, England   Housemaid Dom

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Source Information:
Dwelling   3 U Park St Servants Home
Census Place Clifton, Gloucester, England
Family History Library Film   1341597
Public Records Office Reference   RG11
Piece / Folio   2481 / 96
Page Number   37

Message 11 of 24 in Discussion

From:

mickym1951

Sent: 11/22/2007 7:13 PM

Sandra I have Come Across a Samuel Moore In the 1901 Census od Donegal.He had a son Thomas Aged 14.Again Cant Be sure.

Cavan

Clonleigh

Raphoe North

Donegal

Household

Moore

Samuel(50)

road contractor

Letitia(48) wife-James(24) road contractor-Samuel(21) road contractor-Letitia(19) machinist-William(17) road contractor-Thomas(14) road contractor-Foster(12)-Robert(8)-Galbraith(6)-Lilly(6)-Lizzie(4)

Message 12 of 24 in Discussion

From:

mickym1951

Sent: 11/22/2007 7:20 PM

Sandra if correct,The Parents were Samuel More And Letitia Weir

I found three births registered

1. James Moore - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 23 APR 1877 Cavan, , Donegal, Ireland

2. JOHN MOORE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 27 DEC 1871 , Donegal, Ireland

3. William MOORE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 13 MAY 1886 Cavan, , Donegal, Ireland

Father: Samuel Moore Family
Mother: Letitia Weir

Message 13 of 24 in Discussion

From:

fgglym

Sent: 12/4/2007 8:34 AM

Hi Mike, I think this Donegal record looks more likely as the Samuel born in West Ham would only have been 17 when Thomas was born and is not so likely to be deceased by 1912 (Moore / Read marriage).

I would also have expected to find some records for Thomas on 1991 and 1901 census if he had been born in England.

I think this Irish one looks very likely but I don't know if we will ever be able to prove that or when Thomas came to England or that samuel had died before 1912. thanks very much for all your work.

Sandra

Message 14 of 24 in Discussion

From:

fgglym

Sent: 5/8/2008 12:45 PM

Hi again, I have come across a civil birth record for Thomas Frederick Moore b 10.06.1883 in Newtonstewart Co Tyrone. Father Samuel Moore (occ school teacher), mother Mary Bailey, sponsor 1 Jane (- don't understand what that means).

Is it possible to find out anything further via census records or any other means to see if this is the Thomas who ends up in England?

If this is now closed down as you are busy with other things, I do understand but did just wonder if you were able to help.

Thanks

Sandra

Message 15 of 24 in Discussion

From:

mickym1951

Sent: 5/9/2008 7:46 PM

Hi Sandra the Sponsor Is like Godparent Or Witness

Mike

Message 16 of 24 in Discussion

From:

mickym1951

Sent: 5/9/2008 8:01 PM

Sandra if you can give us a few days i will ask Teri if she can check the Emerald Ancestors site.Her Comp has gone down at present.So will be a few Days

Mike

Message 17 of 24 in Discussion

From:

fgglym

Sent: 6/14/2008 8:08 AM

Hi again - Has it been possible to track what happened to this Thomas from Newtonstewart I don't want to hassle but if he is not the right one I can cross him off and if he is it will be so good to know.

Thanks

sandra

Message 18 of 24 in Discussion

From:

mickym1951

Sent: 6/14/2008 2:49 PM

Hi sandra Teri,s comp is still out.But i have asked Marian if she Can help on this.

We may Be able to see if in te British Census

Mike

Message 19 of 24 in Discussion

From:

mickym1951

Sent: 6/15/2008 2:04 PM

Sandy The Thomas frederick Moore From Newtownstewart Was not found in British Census.So this one must have remained in Ireland.

Marian has Checked out The ensus for you

Mike

Message 20 of 24 in Discussion

From:

fgglym

Sent: 1/25/2009 9:47 AM

Hi again- after a long gap!

I am really excited as have now managed to firm up more details.

I have looked at the 1911 census and found Thomas Frederick Moore in Forest Gate London aged 27 working for Civil Service and resident in England. This was my grandfather and he was with 2 sisters and his widowed mother Mary Moore (nee Bailey) aged 60 (born c 1651) which gives her birthplace as Montreal Canada.

Thomas was born in Newtonstewart Tyrone as was his younger sister Annie Elizabeth Moore(aged 20 on the census) but older sister Margaret Bailey Moore was born in Belfast and aged 33 in 1911.

Is there anyway of finding out when father Samuel (who was a school teacher in Newtonstewart died) and if there were any other children?

Also any ideas on how I could look for ancestors for either Samuel or Mary?

Thanks

Sandra

Message 21 of 24 in Discussion

From:

mickym1951

Sent: 1/25/2009 10:14 AM

Sandra have you Joined the new site yet as we only have until 29th feb on msn

Mike

Message 22 of 24 in Discussion

From:

fgglym

Sent: 1/25/2009 12:11 PM

Thanks Mike - I hadn't registered but have now! do I need to resubmit my question to the new site or is it ok here? Sorry a bit ignorant on these things.

Thanks for your help

Sandra

Message 23 of 24 in Discussion

From:

mickym1951

Sent: 1/25/2009 7:10 PM

Hi Sandra if you can Add to the Forums on there.It would be good.

You will also Notice how many Views it has also.

Someone else may be Linked

Mike

Message 24 of 24 in Discussion

From:

mickym1951

Sent: 1/25/2009 7:43 PM

Sandra there were 2 possible deaths in West ham London

Deaths Sep 1892 (>99%)
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Moore Samuel John 47 W. Ham 4a 84

Deaths Jun 1893 (>99%)
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Moore Samuel 70 W. Ham 4a 128

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